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Seeking scope advice, I'm building a R700 .308 project, yes the one I previously asked about, but now I have more options and would like some input from folks who have more shooting and scope experience than I.

I plan to shoot mostly from prone from 0-500 yards with some 800 yard max shots(maybe), I have been thinking that I want to go Variable, FFP, .10 mil adjustments.

These are the scopes I'm looking at
Assume these two cost the same, how does the glass compare? are they comparable structurally?
- The SS 3-9x42 FFP -- it has a somewhat limited power range but I like the reviews
- The Bushnell 4200 3-12x44 FFP -- more magnification range, good reviews

Or for a little more money..... could get a good condition one for about $900
-The Leupold 3.5-10x40 LRT M1 TMR -- I like the TMR Its FFP its .1 mil adjustment ect..

I haven't been able to look through any of these scopes, but I need to hear from those who have, and hear what they like. I am kinda split between the Bushnell and the SS it would depend on which people think is clearer. I wouldn't mind making the Jump to the Leupold if the optical gains are "noticeable" i.e. Worth the extra cash $600 to $900

Thank you for any input.
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The Leupold you list has .25 MOA adjustments.  The M5 knobs are the ones that will have .1 Mil adjustments.  I don't think they exist on that scope yet though.
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I would go for a bit more magnification for the longer shots.
All depends on the size of the target, say steel plates vs paper bulls off course.
You can allways crank a 16X down to 9X , but you cannot crank a 9X up!!
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Originally posted by Jon A Jon A wrote:

The Leupold you list has .25 MOA adjustments.  The M5 knobs are the ones that will have .1 Mil adjustments.  I don't think they exist on that scope yet though.


You are correct I missed that....
Well how bout' it pros and cons of MOA vs Mil adjustments?
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If your not in a hurry you might want to take a look at the Vortex PST 4-16x50 it will have all the features & price range you seek.
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

If your not in a hurry you might want to take a look at the Vortex PST 4-16x50 it will have all the features & price range you seek.


When are those supposed to be available?
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there has been no firm release date yet.
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Can anyone comment clarity and brightness wise on the Bushnell vs. the Super Sniper?
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IMO the list of clarity would be.

Bushnell 3200's
Super Sniper 16
Bushnell 4200's and SS 10X
Super Sniper 3-9
 
These are scopes I have owned personally and can compare.  That said the 4200's and 6500's  use the same glass, The 3-9 and 10XHD use similar glass as well
 
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

IMO the list of clarity would be.

Bushnell 3200's
Super Sniper 16
Bushnell 4200's and SS 10X
Super Sniper 3-9
 
These are scopes I have owned personally and can compare.  That said the 4200's and 6500's  use the same glass, The 3-9 and 10XHD use similar glass as well
 
listed in order  good
                        better
                        best
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i recently bought a bushnell 4200 6-24X50 with the 30mm tube and tactical knobs. i love it. the clarity is superb and it took 5 shots to get it sighted in. the tracking and function worked flawlessly.  
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I think for the distances you are looking to shoot the Bushnell might be a little more helpful. Both are great choices in the sub-$1000 price range. There are too many other scopes that do not have the complete combination of FFP and turrets that match the reticle.

Sidenote: You can always crank a high mag. scope down, e.g. from 16X to 9X. But there aren't any inexpensive scopes I know of that allow you to crank down to 3X that have that kind of high end. I'd take a 3-9X any day over a scope starting at 6X and it would have to be something really nice to get me to consider 5X as a low end. 4X...not ideal, but I'd consider it. Surprisingly often, high magnification is less usable because of an unstable hold or mirage. Even more often, there's a need for field of view and that's where a 2, 2.5 or 3X low end really helps. If I knew I'd never take a shot over 400 I'd love to have one of the new true 1-8X scopes.
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I agree with Jono & that's what makes the versatility of the Bushnell Elite 6500 that much better than the 4200 also 6500 is 1/4 moa.I'ts nice having that 2.5!

I beleive the Bushnell glass is made at the LOW factory in Japan.Putting my 6500 side by side with my SS10X HD I personally can't destinguish any diffference in the glass!
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Thanks for the help guys.

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