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I just bought a thompson r55 sporter .22.  I want to mount a scope on it (leaning towards a mueller apv 4.5-14x40), but I want to be able to use the really nice iron sights on the rifle.  Should I get quick release rings(saw some leupolds for $55) or go with see thru rings?  Are there advantages or disadvantages to both types?  If so what are they?  I don't mind spending the extra money for the quick release rings if they work well and don't cause problems(like holding zero, etc.), but if the see thru are easier to use and work just as well I would go with them.  Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences, advice and opionions.
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 Most good Quick Release systems hold zero fairly well if they are installed correctly. The high end ones are often machined to tighter tolerances, so they generally hold zero better than the cheaper ones. I think it is largely a matter of degree.

 Avoid See-through systems if you can; they require you to lift your head from the stock to see through the scope, destroying correct and solid shooting form. There are very few situations where a person will hit better with iron sights than they will with a decent scope.
 In my experience shooters who get see-through mounts justify them by using iron sights because they have to, simply because they themselves made the scope pretty much unusable by mounting it too high to use! Poor self-deluded souls...
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Ronk has a solid point-- rarely does a system trying to do two things accomplish one well.
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I have those Leupold quick release rings on two muzzleloaders and take my scopes off every time I clean them.  And while muzzleloaders are not super accurate guns they have always seemed to hold a good zero. 
Ronk is completely right about the see through mounts.  It always makes me laugh when I see someone mount an optic on top the carry handle of an AR and then they wonder why they can't shoot it as good as with the iron sights.  
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+1 on the first three answers.  The Leupold detachable mounts should work just fine.   If you are putting a 4.5-14 power scope on a .22, it sounds like you are going for precision. 
 
The only reasons for see-through rings (and they are bad ones) are (1) you think you will be taking really close shots at running game; or (2) you think your scope will blink out on you far from civilization.   A low-powered scope is the answer to the first problem.   The detachable mounts are the answer to the second problem, and offer the additional option of carrying an extra scope already set up and zeroed in a second set of detachable rings.
 
I had a Pachmayr Lo-Swing scope that could be flipped off the receiver in an instant to allow the use of iron sights.  This never proved very helpful.  Detachable mounts are a much better solution.
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Just one more comment.  If close shooting is something you are really worried about and want to be able to do it easier.  Then take a look at a Vortex or Bushnell 3200 2-7x32 scopes or anything with a 2x bottom end.  With 2x you can shoot with both eyes open have a great field of view and at 7x you will have plenty of magnification for a .22.  I have a Tasco 2.5-10x varmint scope on my one .22 and it works great for that gun, I can shoot rabbits up real close and 10x is way more than I really need for the range of a .22. 
Anyway just another thought.
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Thanks everyone for the replies.  I was mostly concerned about shooting 25 yards  or less at my indoor range.  Your suggestions have helped me make my decision to go with the quick release rings.  Now I just have to find the right scope for my rifle and I'll be all set.  I think the mueller 4.5-14x40 looks pretty  good at $115.  Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it.
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