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I am fairly new to the site and have a question about how to protect and prepare optics for hunting in the rain.  I am not new to hunting - but have not hunted in the rain that much.  I have a Nikon Monarch UCC 3-9x40 I purchased last year for hunting.  Yesterday was one of my only days to hunt and it was pouring rain.  Every time I looked thru my scope I had to clean the water off the lenses and even after cleaning it seems like the lenses were foggy. I know should have purchased some of the Butler Creek flip caps, but have not.

Any advice or tips for preparing scopes for hunting in the rain? Dirty%20Harry
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You just mentioned them, butler creek flip up caps are a nice addition when the rain or snow is flying. I like the see thru because in a really fast condition you may be able to see well enough to still make a shot. The new hydrophobic coatings like elites rainguard and sightrons weather guard is a real blessing if you have them. They do a lot for keeping that outside fog and water droplets from preventing you from getting a clear enough site picture to make the shot. I hope to see those coatings start to appear on most of the major scope manufactures offerings in the future.

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BC caps will help, no doubt.
 
Has any one ever used Rain X on their scopes?? I think I'm going to try it out on some "junker" scopes I got laying around and see.
 
I'm NOT advocating using Rain X on YOUR scopes because it might not jive with your scopes coatings, but I might try it with mine.......Devil
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I have never tried it on a scope, but on a windshield it takes a lot of buffing to make it clear to see through, You might call rain X and see what they say. I think it is a polyvinyl alcohol and it may remove coatings.
 
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Howdy Fellas,  I just registered as a member to respond to this thread. ( I have been reading Optic Talks Forum for about a year and a half now...). 
 
Rain-X will MOST CERTAINLY eat the coatings off your scope's lenses!! So will WINDEX!! Rain-X is ONLY for CLEAR GLASS. You cannot use that stuff for any coated glass....even a lens cleaning solution can leave cleaning marks on camera lenses if you use too much...like, more than a drop or two. 
 
 Years ago I put Rain-X on my truck windshield and I immediately wondered the same thing. I believe there is a warning on the box...I read it somewhere years ago..NOT to DO IT.    Smile
 
 
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Welcome to the ot and thanks for the information.
 
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Welcome to The OT, Ed.
 
Appreciate your warning.
I knew that Rain X thing would get this forum moving this morning...
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I have the Butler Creeks on the same scope and hunted in driving snow on opening day this year. They definitely work. They are quick release and fairly quiet. If it is raining or snowing hard that doesn't matter. If it is still and dry I just leave them open.
Thanks for the info, Ed



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One year durning deer season it was snowy,cold,wet and miserable perfect hunting conditions, right. One of the guys had a product that he got from an eyeglass center. You put this on and it prevented the scope from fogging up, like for your eyeglasses. I didn't use it because I had a 4200 Elite, but some of them used it and said it worked, but I don't know the real effects of the product on the lense.

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Just  a week or so ago I was poking around e-bay and someone was selling a nice old scope. ( It was a Redfield 6X scope that the seller kind of intimated was "special" because it had some kind of a letter code on it ---like ED or CE or something...), ANYWAY, he mentioned that it was beautiful, EXCEPT that it had a SMUDGE on the objective lens because he had been using some kind of a jelly product to make it water resistant!
 
I have seen those products advertised. Everytime I see them I think about RAIN-X! Shocked 
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I just read Cheap Tricks response on a thread for Swarovski flip up covers and was reminded of another option. A bikini cover is very effective. It is cheap, comes off quickly and is quiet.
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ive hunted in some harsh conditions between minnesota and wyoming and no matter what scope i have used i have never experienced any of this fogging stuff, ive hunting in driving rains, blizzard like blowing snow, freezing cold and never had a problem with any scope, i must be lucky but i dont use scope covers or anything, but i could see where what you guys are talking about would piss one off
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I only will use zeiss lens cleaner on my scope lens coatings. Hydrophobic coatings are coming.....another couple years and this subject will be not too big a deal. You don't have to see perfect.....you just gotta see good enough to shoot.

You did really get the post going CT :>)

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Originally posted by Focus Focus wrote:

I only will use zeiss lens cleaner on my scope lens coatings.
 
You did really get the post going CT :>)

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Amen!! The Zeiss individually wrapped wipes are all I use too.
I keep a couple in my trusty Eagle Stock Pack on Betty...Smile
 
Ya can't pull a fast one on this forum, my friend!! This forums way too savvy.......Cool 
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Heck I wouldn't have thought that many guys were even awake! You had em' coming out of the woodwork.

Those wipes are a good deal.....had the local eye care store in wally world put them on sale this summer, wife picked me up a couple boxes for almost nothing.

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Lets see....naughty or nice??  Evil%20Bat
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Rain X may dissolve the lens on a Barska.
 
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Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

Rain X may dissolve the lens on a Barska.
 
DuceExcellent
 
The X may be the only coating this Chi-Com son of a pup ever gets, Jimmy....Laffin.
 
Scopes still got to go to the doctor though. The mighty Barska didn't make it through the water submersion test.
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barska sucks
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Naughty, maybe the RainX is a better coating than factory..........
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Come on Pyro....tell us how you really feel....:>)

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being a 40 there is a good chance leupolds alumina raincote lens covers may work
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Sell your Nikon! Get a 4200!....................
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i will say this i cannot wait to try the 4200 out in the rain or snow or whatever early nov hunting season throws at me up nort!
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