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I asked a question earlier about scope rings that nobody seems to have experience with. I am looking to put a 4.5-14x44 Zeiss Conquest on a Weatherby Vanguard, and want to use the Weatherby mounting system. Will the Conquest mount in the same rings as most 40mm scopes? Or is the 4mm enough to make a difference? Thanks in advance for your knowledge.
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When you say the Weatherby mounting system are you reffering to a Talley or Buehler type set-up? The only problem folks run into from time to time is having the bolt handle clear the ocular housing when opening the bolt. The only experience I had with a 4.5-14x44 Conquest was with mounting one on a model 70 Super Grade for a friend of mine. He was using standard Leupold mounts with medium height rings and the clearance was fine on that particular gun, both objective height and bolt handle clearance. If there was any drawback to that particular scope I would say that  I thought the eye relief was a little on the sensitive side. Other than that, it was typical Zeiss quality, excellant.
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I assume that your rings are 1" in the Wby. mounting system???....If so, then you should be able to mount the Zeiss that has the 1" tube.....The difference between the 40MM obj. scope vs. the 44MM obj. scope is 4MM in diameter,,,or only a 2MM`s difference at the radius. All you need is that extra 2MM in clearance for the 44MM obj. to clear the barrel.....I had a Wby. Vanguard with a 40mm obj. There should be enough clearance to use the 44mm obj............
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

I asked a question earlier about scope rings that nobody seems to have experience with. I am looking to put a 4.5-14x44 Zeiss Conquest on a Weatherby Vanguard, and want to use the Weatherby mounting system. Will the Conquest mount in the same rings as most 40mm scopes? Or is the 4mm enough to make a difference? Thanks in advance for your knowledge.

I am going to try to answer what I think your question is.  First, to clarify something.  Wby. does not have a proprietary mounting system.  They will use Talley products if your order a rifle and want them do place mounts and rings on the rifle.  Otherwise, all mount and ring manufactures make products compatible with Wby. rifles.  With respect to Vanguards, I am not even sure they offer Talley mounts and rings from the factory.  Regardless, with a 44mm objective, you may or may not need a higher ring, depending on the manufacturer.  I tend to buy rings in two sizes to make sure the scope is going to fit and fit as closely to the barrel as possible.  Since I am always working in the shop with rifles, I always end up using the other rings and some point in time.  For example, Warne rings tend to be a little lower than other manufacturer's rings of the same stated height.  With a 44 mm objective, my tendency would be to choose medium rings, especially if you are buying locally, as you can always go back and get low rings if you think they would fit better.  I hope that helps in some way. 

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Roy, I am not familiar with the Buehler set up. The system I'm looking at is on the Weatherby site as the Vanguard mounting system, and comes in low and med. height rings. I would like to mount the scope low, of course, but don't want to order these mounts and have them be too low. Here is what the weatherby system looks like.

 

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Check out this thread.

 

How to determine proper ring height

 

If you can get the measurments off the mounts you can know for sure it they will work.

 

They look like Talley light weight rings btw.

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Those are the Talley Light Weights. If you want to be safe, order the medium height. Weatherby started to manufacture the Buehler style with their name on them, then switched to putting their name on the Talley's. I'm not sure if Weatherby makes those mounts themselves or if they get them direct from Talley with their stamp on them. Either way, they are the Talley flavor. I believe Chris sells the Talley LW's here. He's kind of an OK dude if you ask me.

 

 

P.S. In case you are not aware, any base that fits a Howa 1500 will work on the Vanguard.



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