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I just purchased Ruger M77 Hawkeye in .300 Winchester Magnum. My question for you experts is:  Will a Nikon Pro Staff 3x9 scope hold up to the beating this rifle will give it?
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yes i believe it would, although to be real honest with you if you could afford a monarch you would be light years ahead of the prostaff, the buckmaster isnt a bad scope either, my bro in law has a prostaff on a hard kicking light weight browning in a .270 and its held zero for two years now i have 3 buckmasters and a monarch the buck masters have killed more deer than my other scopes combined and for not to much more money than the prostaff.
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Probably but you would be a lot happier with a Nikon Monarch or Zeiss Conquest, what type of shooting are you going to do? any target? distance? Budget? A little more information would help on recommendations.

 

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Sorry about the lack of info.  I plan to whitetail hunt in Ky., but the accuracy and the shoulder burn will determine if other applications are warranted. Rifle is SS/ Synthetic, so it is a hunter.

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Yes! It should....However, if it were me, a Nikon Prostaff would not be my 1st choice for that rifle. If you choose the Nikon, step up and go with the Monarch, which would be a much better choice and worth the extra bucks!!!...........Congrats on your Ruger M77 purchase. I have the 300 WSM, 16.5" barrelled Ruger Frontier, which I bought last March....Good luck with yours!! It`s a beautiful rifle!!
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so are you saying you have a physical issue??
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Sandy..........If you are referring to shoulder burn and recoil as one in the same, that is a very easy problem to solve. I have the Limbsaver slip on recoil pad. Reduces the felt recoil by 50%........I betcha that my little compact Frontier has a little more recoil than your 300 Win......
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Pyro,  To be honest, I do not have physical issues. I am sure that the .300 will not kick harder than my M77 in .338 Win Mag.I have never shot a .300 Win Mag. With limited cabbage, I just want to get the best glass for my bucks.
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well when you said shoulder burn i went hmmm, i have a .280 rem in a m77 and i was going to use it tomorrow as our deer season opens tomorrow but now my wife has the flu and i get to watch the boys, no that 300 wont be as much push as you .338 but i would recommend at least a buckmaster, a monarch would cost more but i have a feeling you would only need to buy once.
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Big Squeeze,        &nbs p; If you look at the Hawkeye, you will see that it has a very functional recoil, at least it passes the look test.

I have had the darn thing for a month, but haven't pulled the Minnie Pearl tags off yet!

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If your cabbage is limited, the try the 3x9 Elite 4200....At $260 on this site, that will be the best scope for the cabbage!
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The Ruger M77 recoil pads,,,,SUCK!!!......Too thin and too hard. I just slip on my Limbsaver and it solves the recoil issue!!
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Pyro,

Another consideration too, should be eye relief.  Come to think of it, when sighting in my .338 with the boat paddle stock, it let a vari x II abuse my eyebrow.

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If you have proper body and or cheek positioning, you shouldn`t be scope whacked even with a 3" eye relief! My 4200 has a 3.3" of eye relief....Even with my hot loads, I have not been whacked! 
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well the nikon monarch and the zeiss conquest have better eye relief than the 4200 elite but i dont see that as a big deal what it is squeezer 4 inches with the other two and like 3.6 inches with the elite? i dont think the 300 will bite you
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Big Squeeze,

Hillbilly bench; sand bags on the truck hood.  I just got careless.  I have run a lot of lead through it since. In short, you are right. I ran out of talent.  LOL!

 

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It is 3.3" at 9x.. More eye relief at the lower powers!
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I belive Big Squeeze is refering to this one at SWFA

http://www.swfa.com/pc-7280-185-bushnell-3-9x40-elite-4200-r ifle-scope.aspx

The sample list has a nice Burris sig

http://www.samplelist.com/default.aspx?prod_type=1&hide_ sold=True at 300

 

How important is low light ability to you? how big of an objective lens do you want?

 

The Sightron if it is an S2 on the sample list would be a good choice at 3 to 12 power

 

Always fun to prowl the sample list.

 

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i bought a limbsave for my 300wsm and it helped by there advetised 20% i can comfortably agree with there claim.
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

If your cabbage is limited, the try the 3x9 Elite 4200....At $260 on this site, that will be the best scope for the cabbage!

 

http://www.swfa.com/pc-7280-185-bushnell-3-9x40-elite-4200-r ifle-scope.aspx

 

Welcome to The OT, Sandy. 

 

Squeeze's suggestion of the 3-9x 4200 is a good one, as are the rest of the recommendations.

The 4200 offers the RainGuard feature which people here swears works very well.

Really a nice scope optically and a great price.

 

I'd also throw in the Sightron SII in 3-9x as a good option as well.

http://www.swfa.com/pc-10603-1514-sightron-3-9x42-sii-rifles cope.aspx

 

I'm not a big advocate for the Pro Staff, but I admittedly haven't seen one in a year or better, so maybe they have improved since then. 

 

The Sample List that Duce mentioned is a great place to browse.

 

Good shooting!!  



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Thanks guys,

 We kinda' got off track for a little bit, but I sure appreciate all the advise. The reason I was asking was, I have an extra Pro Staff circa 2001 in the cabinet. I am dying to shoot my new rifle and when I put glass on it , that scope will probably stay on it if it will take the abuse. It looks like the masses are telling me I won't be happy with it. I also have a Leupold Vari X II ,but it is not matte finish. Just seeing if I need to raid the gun fund.

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Raid the gun fund!!!!!
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Sandy: The Leupold seems a far better choice (and scope) than the Prostaff AND YOU ALREADY HAVE IT!

Who cares if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice?

Nobody 'll say nothing in the deer camp (neither will the deer)

Good luck

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Originally posted by Argie Argie wrote:

Sandy: The Leupold seems a far better choice (and scope) than the Prostaff AND YOU ALREADY HAVE IT!

Who cares if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice?

Nobody 'll say nothing in the deer camp (neither will the deer)

Good luck

 Yep. A hunting rifle and it's scope should be spray painted in blotchy, dull, ugly earth-tone colors anyway. Deer and elk may or may not be color-blind, but the birds and squirrels that warn them of your presence are not.

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Originally posted by Argie Argie wrote:

Sandy: The Leupold seems a far better choice (and scope) than the Prostaff AND YOU ALREADY HAVE IT!

Who cares if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice?

Nobody 'll say nothing in the deer camp (neither will the deer)

Good luck

why are you guy detering someone from buying a new scope?? thats not nice i like to encourage people to buy new stuff it shows that the sport is active that way the antis have less ammo!

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