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There are two major scope rings designs that I see and I'm wondering if one is better than the other?

Take Burris Zee rings for example, where the top half is secured to the bottom half with screws at both sides. Then the Warne type where the ring is tighten at the top only. It would seem to me that the Warne type could exert uneven pressure on the top scope tube since the ring is only constricting at the top - I don't see how the bottom of the ring can get smaller. Whereas even pressure would be applied to the top and bottom halves of the scope tube with the Burris design.

I realize the Warne rings are split at the bottom but I was under the impression to secure the bottom of the rings to the base first, then snug up the scope with the screws at the top - unless I'm doing it wrong. Thanks.
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I don't have any expience with either but I will say this.  Some of the top names in rings (ie badger, leo, ....) all use the same "concept".  There is a reason for this to get equal pressure and points to touch the scope and not have all the clamping force focused on one area.  Warne reminds me of a slip on comp that I had for my 10/22 back in the day that had a slit with a screw to tighten.  I put some plastigauge left over from my motor build and tested the force around and the close to the slit and screw the more pressure signs, it wasn't equal by a long shot.
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Originally posted by tpcollins tpcollins wrote:

There are two major scope rings designs that I see and I'm wondering if one is better than the other?

Take Burris Zee rings for example, where the top half is secured to the bottom half with screws at both sides. Then the Warne type where the ring is tighten at the top only. It would seem to me that the Warne type could exert uneven pressure on the top scope tube since the ring is only constricting at the top - I don't see how the bottom of the ring can get smaller. Whereas even pressure would be applied to the top and bottom halves of the scope tube with the Burris design.

I realize the Warne rings are split at the bottom but I was under the impression to secure the bottom of the rings to the base first, then snug up the scope with the screws at the top - unless I'm doing it wrong. Thanks.


Your doing it wrong.  You need to tighten Warne rings evenly from top to bottom or you will most likely damage your scope.  If you tighten the bottom all at once a scope will not even fit in the rings properly and will bind up on the bottom and put way to much pressure on the bottom of the tube. 

Really the concept is the same, you have two points one on each side of the scope tube that needs to be tightened down evenly. 

Warne rings are nice and they are very strong.  I have a couple sets of them and would dare us them on any rifle without worries of issues.  Personally I don't care for the design as much as a typical ring design though as they are more difficult to set up because you are trying to attach them to the base while at the same time tightening them around the scope.  But once they are setup they really do work well. 


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Being thats supertool enlightened me in on the concept a little more I see that my comparison is not similar. 

 
however they sounds finicky to put on but once they are on it does seem they would be very stable and have a good rep.
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Thanks supertoll173 - that really makes sense to me.  I'm going to use a one piece Dednutz on my new T/C Triumph but I believe I'll replace all my Warnes with Burris Zee rings. This will give me something to do over the winter!  Thanks.
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 If you are going to change to Burris rings give the XTR rings a look 6 screws instead of 4.
 Then go to SWFA look at the ss rings, same concept as Burris but at a more reasonable price.
 Might as well support our host here at optics talk and buy their products they are just as good as the big name rings. I am in the process of doing all of mine also.
 If you go this way make sure you look at the height of the rings, where you used to use high with these a low may work, call to check before you order.
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I just checked SWFA and they carry the Burris line that I'm after, thanks.
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