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Hey all, I'm looking at putting a new scope on my one Savage 17HMR rifle. She's got a bull barrel, and I have another just like it w/o a Bull barrel, and that has my Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 which I love.
 
Was looking at Leupolds, but from what I've read the Nikon Monarch series is better. I guess a Nikon Monarch > Leupld VX-II and VX III's...? Well anyways, my question is about the Monarch parallax setting.
 
This scope is going to be used for squirrels (not ground, but grey tree ones here in PA) so often I get shots off at / around 50 yards or less depending. The Monarch parallax is set at 100 yards so the SWFA site says, so would this scope be useless to me?
 
The reasons I wanted a Leupold (either VX1 or VX2) are for the glass clarity, the 3.5-10x50mm (tho 3-12x50 is preferred) options, and most of all, I really don't want to deal with an Adjustable Objective / Side Parallax adjustment while small game hunting.
 
If any of my terminology is wrong or facts messed up, by all means school me on what's right.
 
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Parallax should be no problem from 150 yrds in, on game size animals. I would say you should be good to go. The Nikon Monarch will serve your purposes, and should do well. The glass will be better than you would get with the Leupolds mentioned as well.
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For your stated purpose I would go with the MONARCH................my opinion only. I like mine
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Hey Cyborg,
 
Maybe you can lend me a hand again. When I do a search on gunbroker.com for Nikon Monarch scopes, they have the Gold ones listed a lot ($$$$) but I don't see the cheaper Monarchs. If I want to keep my budget around $300-350 would these have the 95% light transmission and are pretty rugged for hunting use?
 
That's a 50mm objective, not sure if that would be beneficial at all / how much it raises the scope could be an issue.
 
Here's a 3-12X that is ideal for me (at least I THINK) which would give me a little more zoom, but at the cost of a 42mm objective vs. the 50mm listed above.
 
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Yes from what I've read they are 95% light transmission, and the newer coatings. Cheaptrick is the real Nikon guru, His Nikon foo is #1. I do believe this would be a good scope for what you are wanting to do. I would go with the 42mm obj and the lower power as that will certainly be a better fit for the LIMB RATS. Best of luck to you sir.
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Here's a link for the SWFA store a good deal as well, or you can check the sample list too.
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Brock,
 
FYI....... I have 3 of those little rifles and have gone thru this very search.  From what I was able to gather from this forum, on squirrel size game, you may very well encounter problems at close range regarding parralax.  I have two 50 yd parallax scopes and 1 regular scope with the Adjustable Objective.  I have not ran into any difficulties with the AO as I set for the shortage range and just leave it there.
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the gold is a step up from the monarch ucc which is now called the nikon team primos, the new monarch and monarch x are totally different breed of cat.
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The UCC link is where I dug this one up at. Is it not a UCC?
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thats a new monarch ucc
this is the old style of ucc
i forgot the monarch gold is a 30mm tube too


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Forgive my ignorance, but the UCC styles (which neither of my links point to) are still better than Leupold VX 1 or 2 clarity for their price right??
 
The Monarchs I looked at are neither Gold or UCC models... I think...
 
Any clarification othe different models?
 
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both of the scopes you linked to are new monarch ucc's, and yes they are better than either of the leupolds you mention
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A quick search for the nikon 8406 which is what I linked is indeed a UCC and is 95% light transmission according to Nikon USA. Just so that you know.
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i said it was  earlier
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

thats a new monarch ucc
this is the old style of ucc
i forgot the monarch gold is a 30mm tube too
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I know I just was unsure until I looked it up, that's why I asked. I see now that you posted the answer Sorry Pyro. Didn't mean to step on toes bro.
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Yikes Hey fellas, I don't mean to interrupt....but are you saying that the Nikon team primos scope is really like last year's Monarch? [The 3X9 is only costing $199.99 here on SWFA?!!! ]  THAT'S a good buy!  I had a 2X7 Monarch that I bought back in 1997 and it was the brightest scope that I ever had in my gun/scope collection. I have never had any of the real expensive European scopes.  That is good news. Isn't that price a lot lower than NORMAL? Is this a permanent price for that scope?   --Ed
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yes it is last years monarch
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Yikes Hey fellas, I don't mean to interrupt....but are you saying that the Nikon team primos scope is really like last year's Monarch? [The 3X9 is only costing $199.99 here on SWFA?!!! ]  THAT'S a good buy!  Isn't that price a lot lower than NORMAL? Is this a permanent price for that scope?   --Ed
 
The Team Primos is the "old Monarch UCC. Yes, a GREAT buy!!
"UCC" is merely Nikon's coating they use on their glass, both on the older versions and the new versions.
 
 
Here's a link to my mini review of a new Monarch 4-14x with the BDC reticle. It's kind of a work in progress, so it's not complete, but it may give you an idea about the new Monarch.
 
 
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