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First post here, hello to all.

I am building/customizing a Mauser rifle for my youngest son.  I will be buying a scope soon, say in the next couple of months.  I hope you folks can help me with quality and reliability questions.

I'm building a short 6.5x55 rifle, and am planning on an "African Style" scope, such as the Nikon African Monarch or Burris Timberline 4x20 for examples.  I don't want a scout scope, it will be mounted over the receiver.

This is going to be a hunting rifle, not a target gun.  I will take him hunting Whitetail deer and wild hog hunting for sure.  I don't foresee any long shots, I'll teach him to close in to reasonable distance or not shoot.  Based on where and how I hunt, shots should not be over 250 yards, with most in the 50-125 yard range.

I want quality, but don't want to pay for more than we need.   Value is the key.  For instance the Nikon African Monarch at +/- $700 is out of my league price wise.  On the other end, the Burris Timberline 4x20 looks to be about $150 and is mighty enticing.  

So, I'm asking for advice based on the style of scope.

help?

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  First off,WELCOME to OT!
 
One of the members here has one of these on his .375 H&H and likes it:
 
  I'm getting one myself for a 9.3 x62 98 Mauser but I haven't settled on which reticle yet(Vortex offers 3).


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I guess I wasn't clear in my description.  What I refer to as "African Style" is a scope without a large objective lens.  Basically, the style I am looking for is no flare or enlargement of the tube on the front.

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Burris Timberline has a slight flare in the front of the scope.

Are you interested in a 1" scope or 30mm?

I am not entirely sure how much you are willing to spend (less than $800 I presume), so I will list a few options.

With 1" tubed scopes, the cheapest good option I can think of is Weaver V3 1-3x20 at right around $150.

For just about $280 you can get Nikon Monarch 1-4x20.

For about $380 you can get Sightron S2 Big Sky 1.25-5x20 (I did a short write-up o this scope some time back).

With 30mm tube scopes, you are generally getting into somewhat heavier designs.  The cheapest one of these that I can recommend is Hawke Endurance 30 1.25-4.5x24 which is about $320 (I will have a review on this scope available shortly).

The next step up is Bushnell Elite 4200 1.25-4x24 for ~$500 and similarly priced Weaver Ultimate Slam scopes: 1-5x24 and 1.5-6x24.

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Thank you gentlemen for the help so far.

I'm open to either 1' or 30mm.  As for the Burris timberline, I was aware of the flare and am ok with the look.  I wouldn't want to go (much) larger than that though.

I have to say that I purposely mentioned the Burris based on some comments I had read here on these forums, yet none of you list them among your recommendations.  Perhaps I misunderstood the other comments I read, or is that due to the flare and my not being clear on what I wanted.

I will look into the recommendations you all have made, and look forward to any more you care to make.

Thanks!
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Burris makes some nice scopes.  The Timberline is a nice little scope (I have its predecessor 4x20 Compact), but in terms of overall performance, it has some weaknesses, most importantly in low light performance.  Mine has been very durable though.

If you really want a fixed power scope, it may be worth your while to take a look at Leupold's FX-2 2.5x20.

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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  First off,WELCOME to OT!
 
One of the members here has one of these on his .375 H&H and likes it:
 
  I'm getting one myself for a 9.3 x62 98 Mauser but I haven't settled on which reticle yet(Vortex offers 3).

yeah buddy she works great!
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Well, I know Weaver has come out with a 1-5 X 24 (30MM) WEAVER DANGEROUS GAME SCOPE. It has a heavy duplex reticle and the reticle is etched also. I believe SWFA carries it and it sells for around $500.00. It is listed under WEAVER SUPER SLAM series I believe. I have never seen it but it has caught my interest.
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 I hope that scope works out for Weaver. They've been introducing some nice optics lately. I got 2 GS scopes I really like.
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