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Looking to get a pair of binoculars with my Christmas money. Not really looking for a brand but wanting your opinion on which power is the most appropriate for hunting applications? What about sporting events and concerts? Thanks for your input. 
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I have a 10X42, but wish I had bought an 8X42.  It gets difficult to hold the image steady for long periods of time.  
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Whats the argument rifle looney?
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no argument from me, but this is argumentative territory sometimes,
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Originally posted by ckk1106 ckk1106 wrote:

I have a 10X42, but wish I had bought an 8X42.  It gets difficult to hold the image steady for long periods of time.  
  I have an 8x42 and I sometimes (often) wish it was a 10x42.



There just really isn't a definitive answer to this question.  There are so many factors that can come into play:
  • Where you hunt
  • How you hunt
  • How steady your hands are
  • etc., etc., etc...
For a general purpose, primary hunting binocular, I would offer the following suggestions:
  1. Nothing lower than 7x.
  2. Nothing higher than 10x.
  3. Exit pupil of no lower than 4mm.
  4. Place a high premium on field of view (both real and apparent) - Try to get the widest you can in whatever magnification you choose.
  5. Don't be unduly lured by ultra-lightweight binoculars.  They are nice for some applications but, don't underestimate the value of having a little weight to help stabilize the image - especially after hiking a long way or sprinting to get into position.


Edited by lucznik - December/21/2008 at 21:32
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I think there's very little need for a 10X; 8X or even 7X is best all around.  7X was the standard for many years, until the power race began.  10X binoculars were rare not too long ago.  Now in some catalogs they outnumber everything else.  Bottom line, most peiple can't hold them steady and they have limited field of view. 
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Originally posted by Monster Monster wrote:

Looking to get a pair of binoculars with my Christmas money.


What is your dollar limit(budget)?
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The 7 or 8X32 would be lighter for hunting. But since I do more Stand or stationary glassing I like the 8X42 better. Better glass far exceeds power for resolution.
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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Originally posted by Monster Monster wrote:

Looking to get a pair of binoculars with my Christmas money.


What is your dollar limit(budget)?


Don't really know my budget yet so that is why I asked about what power is best so I can narrow down my choices
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The other issue with a 7x42 is much larger exit pupil.  6mm.  This helps with Low light, stability, and Zeiss have a massive 450' FOV.  If I got even a little light or moon, I can see my fields at night.
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I bought the Leupold Katmai 6x32mm for my wife, and we both have enjoyed using it, and others here on the forum recommend it as well.

In comparing the 6x32mm to Fujinon CD 7x42mm roof & Minox BD 8x44mm BP Porro binoculars, my older eyes appreciate the higer magnification of either the 7x or 8x, for BETTER image size and resolution/sharpness.

As others have already mentioned, a 10x has a smaller FOV, and is more difficult,, for the beginner, to hold steady.

10x usually represents a price increase over 7x or 8x.

Having tested the 32mm against the 42mm and the 44mm, my eyes PREFER the larger aperture/exit pupil of either the 42mm, or the 44mm.

The Minox Porro offers a higher percentage of light transmission to the eyes, as well, higher than most roof prism binoculars.



Edited by Bird Watcher - December/22/2008 at 13:39
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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:

Originally posted by ckk1106 ckk1106 wrote:

I have a 10X42, but wish I had bought an 8X42.  It gets difficult to hold the image steady for long periods of time.  
  I have an 8x42 and I sometimes (often) wish it was a 10x42.



There just really isn't a definitive answer to this question.  There are so many factors that can come into play:
  • Where you hunt
  • How you hunt
  • How steady your hands are
  • etc., etc., etc...
For a general purpose, primary hunting binocular, I would offer the following suggestions:
  1. Nothing lower than 7x.
  2. Nothing higher than 10x.
  3. Exit pupil of no lower than 4mm.
  4. Place a high premium on field of view (both real and apparent) - Try to get the widest you can in whatever magnification you choose.
  5. Don't be unduly lured by ultra-lightweight binoculars.  They are nice for some applications but, don't underestimate the value of having a little weight to help stabilize the image - especially after hiking a long way or sprinting to get into position.


Monster, not sure where in California you hunt or how you hunt? What Lucznik says about "factors" holds true for me. 7x is just not enough to cover everything we do out here. I have 7x42's and I use them the least, when I do it's only for specialized purposes. I use my 10x42's about 90% of the time followed by my compact 8x32's.


Edited by mike650 - December/22/2008 at 18:36
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Well there you go MONSTER lots o' good info to say the least.   Yippee
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Yep thanks everyone for your input
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