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I have been looking at all of the binocluar choices latley. I have strongly considered the Promaster and Hawkes because of the good reports posted here. I decided to call for a price of a set of Promaster Infinity Elite ELX ED 10X42 at my local dealer this weekend. The price was $350. YippeeI nearly fell over when I heard the price, so I called several other dealers in states near by to verify this is the correct price. They gave the same price. I plan to order a set Monday morning. I hope this is helpful to you.
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It may just be my local dealer, but I have found Pro Master stuff over priced for the quality.
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The Promaster Elite ELX ED gets great reviews so far and that is indeed a very good price.
 
Such a drastic price drop from only a couple months ago however, does not exactly instill me with a strong sense of confidence about the long-term viability of this particular product nor of the company's ability to provide good warranty service for it.  This is an issue because the ruggedness and durability of this binocular has yet to prove itself in the field.  It may appear well made but, only time and hard use will tell for sure.
 
Furthermore, as good as it may be, this binocular (and Promaster's new spotting scope) is still a relative "no-name" model and they simply cannot be expected to hold their value making them a less-than-ideal investment.
 
 
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Orion has announced the Orion ULX ED for delivery 12/14/08.  For all intents and purposes, it appears to be the same thing as the Promaster ELX ED, without the Repellemax coating and it only has a one year limited warranty.  The cost will be $270.  For that cost for the image you get, you are not out much.  For the image I got with the Promaster for the price, I'm still not out much.
 
I've used the Promaster I have a lot, and doubt there is any durability issues any more or less than any other binocular in its price range.  I've also had the chance to compare it directly tothe Leica Ultravid, Zeiss FL, Swarovski EL and Steiner Peregrine XP.  I does indeed play at 99%+ of that level as far as just the optics are concerned. 
 
I'd agree with luczink on the durability issues at this price class.  I'd think there has to be something there (or somewhere), or if there's not, we've all been paying the Europeans far too much money for far too many years.  Where I may disagree with luczink is that name recognition works two ways.  But, he's righjt in that nobody knows what you're talking about because nobody recognizes the name.


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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

Orion has announced the Orion ULX ED... it only has a one year limited warranty... The cost will be $270.  For that cost for the image you get, you are not out much. 
I could not spend $270 on a binocular that only offered a 1-year limited warranty.   There are just too many high-quality options out there that have lifetime warranties and that cost less money. And I have all too often benefited from those good warranties.  (I think I may be a bit hard on some of my equipment...) 
 
 
Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

...on the durability issues at this price class.  I'd think there has to be something there (or somewhere), or if there's not, we've all been paying the Europeans far too much money for far too many years.
Whether or not the durability issue I brought up proves real, this last assertion of yours is most definitely true. 
 
I'm not saying they're not worth more money than other, less prestigious binoculars.
I'm not saying they're not better than other, less prestigious binoculars.
 
am saying that they cost more than they are worth.


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[QUOTE=Klamath]

we've all been paying the Europeans far too much money for far too many years. 

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I was stationed in Germany from 1967-1970, and, even back then, we were buying Japanese optics because the European stuff was high priced.

Some of the "European" optics were actually made in Japan, at that time.

Today we see companies like Minox manufacturing some of their binocualrs in Japan, using German (Schott) glass.



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I have placed the order for the ELX EDs. They will be here next week. I hope the bins last forever but if all fails I look at it like this, I have lost alot more $$$ on other things like owning cattle, horses and computers ect... I will get back to yall after I get the bins.
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Ky hunter,
 
I bet you will like them a lot.  One thing to keep in mind is that the focus rate is slow, and it focuses clockwise to infinity which is backwards from most.  Took me a minute or two before I figured it out and stopped going HUH?????  Let us know what you think.
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Hello Everyone, I have picked up the ELX bins. I have not had time/daylight to give them a really good evaluation. It is dark when I leave for work and dark when I get home. I plan to take them out this Saturday. I was able to use them for about 5-10 minutes one evening. From what I was able to judge during the last few minutes of daylight, they are everything I had hoped for and more. I think they are fantastic, but I am far from an expert on bins. I fill more at home looking through a riflescope. I have look through everything I could get my hands on and these are as good as any I have seen. I will give a more detailed evaluation some time next week. I wish you all a Merry Christmas.

 

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 Thanks for the info. I ordered a pair today.  How long did you have to wait for yours to come in?
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It took six working days deliver time.

I went out this morning at sun up and used the ELX. I want to say up front my point of view primarily is for hunting. I am again very pleased. The brightness was very good. I could not detect any loss of light when using the bins. The detail is absolutely great. I could spot a bug crawling up a trig at 100 yards with no problem. The depth of field is very good too. I focused at 50 yards and all is great out to about 600 yards. Even after 600 yards out to a 1000 it is still very usable without adjusting the focus. A little adjustment brings the 600 yard + objects into perfect focus. It will definitely focus down to within a few feet of the user, but this is something that is not important to me. It does take considerable adjustment to bring in the close objects (less than 50 yards), but they are in perfect detail. I did notice some loss of detail in edge of the glass. This was only noticeable when I was viewing tree tops at a distance. The branches outlined against the grey sky would show the loss, but this was not noticeable or even detectable, when viewing under normal use. I did bring out two old pair, I have had for a long time, for comparison. I was sick of the other two. Made me want to throw rocks at the old ones. The first thing that I noticed was the eye strain caused by the old bins. The next was the reduced field of view of the old ones. Did I mention the others are 50mm bins. Granted my old ones are not nearly in this class, but I have use them for years. I will not be without these from now on, the old ones will be reduced to spares and nock around or loaners. There are others that will do just as well, I am sure, but I am very happy I got these. Excellent Good days afield, and Merry Christmas to all.

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I called several camera stores here. None of them carry Promaster binoculars, except of their camera accessories.
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I just thought i would throw this out there. I ordered 3 pair of hawke frontier ed 8x43 binoculars in green and black. they are supposed to get here sometime next week. I am planning on selling one maybe 2 pairs, i will sell them for $405 shipped to anyone in the u.s. I was going to put them up on optics for sale but don't have enough posts. If no one contacts me, i am going to stick them on ebay. my email is vvvv99@hotmail.com
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v-train, please see koshkin's post regarding for sale items in the thread below.
 
 
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sorry, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. i am not a very frequent poster.
i never even noticed the rules, that i violated. i will try and contact the moderator once they come in. there is no point in doing so until they do.  if he won't let me sell them that is fine. i will put them on ebay. i just thought i would give someone a deal.
i didn't mean to tick anybody off. i have always enjoyed this site, and the feedback from those on it.
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