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Topic: Old German Scopes
Posted By: Lone Star
Subject: Old German Scopes
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 12:19

Greetings:

 

I have several old German scopes and am hoping to find out more about them. Below is a list that includes what I believe is the maker along with all other markings on the scope.

 

1. Hensoldt Wetzlar     Ziel-Dialyt     4x     w/post rectile

 

2. D.R.G.M.   DP Walter Gerard     Charlottenburg     w/post rectile

 

3. D.R.G.M.     Helios 8a     Lichtstarke 30     Schartstellung    w/ post rectile

 

4. R Fuess     Helios 4     Seglitz-Berlin     Lightstarke 36     w/ crosshair rectile

 

5. W Sch....letters are faded away    w/post rectile (nothing else on scope)

 

6. Opikotechna     4x     6 degrees     w/ post rectile  (this scope is actually czech)

 

Any and all help identifying, dating, and learning more about these is much appreciated. I've Googled each one, but have had very limited success in finding more info.




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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 13:25
http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=492&PN=1 - http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=492&PN=1

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Posted By: www.technika.nu
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 14:53

Hi

 

 

Hensoldt was bought by Zeiss in 1929 and continued as an independent civilian and military manufacturer up till probably 1972 when the Zeiss ,oberkoshen factory closed it's production of Zeiss military and sport optic.

So somewhere from that date does Hensoldt indicate military production.

Your scope is most likely a civilian scope, but from the information you gave it's not possible to say if its pre or post war.

 

DRGM is the code for the German patents and DRGM was used up till 1945, so those two are made before 1945 and DRGM does say noghting about the manufacturer.

 

It would be easyer to help you if you publish photos of them.

Are they mounted or do they have mounts? what kinds?

 

Optotechna is not German, I belive it's polish, but it might be czeck.

 

Regards Technika

 

 



Posted By: lucznik
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 16:12
Originally posted by www.technika.nu www.technika.nu wrote:

Optotechna is not German, I belive it's polish, but it might be czeck.

 

Definately not Polish.  That is, unless you both have the spelling wrong.   Don't know about Czech.



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Posted By: www.technika.nu
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 16:50

Right the optotechna is czech and is the forerunner of Meopta.

I was mixing it up with Opticshe Präziosionswerke Warzaw GMBH, that made really nice optics to the third reich during the ocupation and continued to make it after the war.

 

 

 

Regards Technika



Posted By: lucznik
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 17:10
Originally posted by www.technika.nu www.technika.nu wrote:

I was mixing it up with Opticshe Präziosionswerke Warzaw GMBH, that made really nice optics to the third reich during the ocupation and continued to make it after the war.

 

I'm assuming that after the War the name was changed to something in Polish rather than German?  Do you by chance know what that name might have been?



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Posted By: Lone Star
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 17:22

Excellent info Technika. As you requested, here are a couple pictures with some of the scopes. I can certainly add more if needed.

 

 



Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: July/25/2007 at 17:51

Welcome to The OT, Lone Star.

 

VERY cool scopes you have there!! Thanks for providing the pics.



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Posted By: www.technika.nu
Date Posted: July/26/2007 at 16:03

The polish name after the war was most likely PZO Polskie Zaklady Optyczne.

I am not hundred percent convinded that Optiche präzisionsverke really is PZO but I assume it is.

 

Regards Technika




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