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Topic: Scope Problems
Posted By: Iamsniper1
Subject: Scope Problems
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 11:51
Some of you people who are having problems with their rifle scopes ie scope,mounts,rings etc, need to bare in mind that
your problems may not be  the scope,mounts,rings,etc,but the way the action is mounted to the stock.For consistent long range shooting the action/stock must be "TORQUED"as one.Nowadays with the advent of  pillar bedding and synthetic stocks this where "TORQUE" really comes into play.Wood stocks and slotted action screws just don't cut it
when shooting beyond the average deer hunting range(Woods@40yds-Field@200/250yds).To you people with scope problems,have you checked your action screws?Before or after you zeroed you weapon?(Hopefully BEFORE).



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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 14:32

Thanks for the information and welcome to The OT.

 

Military or LE sniper?



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Posted By: Iamsniper1
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 16:23
Military,U.S.Army 1968 -1979.

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 16:54

Originally posted by Iamsniper1 Iamsniper1 wrote:

Military,U.S.Army 1968 -1979.

 

Glad your here.



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Posted By: Iamsniper1
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 16:58
Thanks

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Posted By: Mike McDonald
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 21:06
Welcome to OT.

Good advice to pm your gear.

That aside, the most accurate 1000 yard rifle I own sits in a wood stock with factory slotted action screws,
and I own several scary accurate long range rifles.

More that one "right" answer.  It's important to keep one's options open.


Posted By: Iamsniper1
Date Posted: July/13/2007 at 23:54
I,m talking about a field grade tactical weapon and its sole purpose is to acquisition a given target and exterminate said target.Are we talking about the same rifle Mr.McDonald?

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Posted By: Mike McDonald
Date Posted: July/14/2007 at 07:26
Why yes, we are.

Here on OT you're going to meet some folks with pretty diverse backgrounds and a wealth of real world expertice. 
Feel free to post anything you want, know that some are going to review it for accuracy of content.


Posted By: Iamsniper1
Date Posted: July/14/2007 at 09:26
Its been my personal experiance with wood stocks in  combat situations where the weapon has been exposed to extreme weather conditions ie rain(Monsoons),humidity and the usual down on your belly in the chit conditions is where stock warpage comes into play,with said warpage zero is now questionable especially for long range shooting(beyond 300yds).Even a full glass bedded wood stock has a tendency to warp.With a high end snythetic(H&S,McMillon and AICS)stock under the same extreme conditions stock warpage is practically nil,also I don't know of any wood stocks
being offered in the full pillar bedding configuration.(Maybe a custom made stock).As to slotted action screws,I have had no luck when torquing a slotted screw@ 65IPs without buggering the slot.By the way,if I may be so bold,what is you 1000yd weapon?
 

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Posted By: Mike McDonald
Date Posted: July/14/2007 at 10:02
65 inch pounds is a  number  used as a generic starting point.  My McMillans not pillat bedded use 53 inch pounds, pillar bedded use 62 inch pounds.  My HS stsocks use 55 inch pounds and my wood stock units use 43 inch pounds.

I have no weapons, I do have rifles.  We can start with a 22-250 and work our way to a 50 BMGx2 and filling in with 260, 308X4 and 338 Lapua along the way.

I have about 4 decades doing this sort of thing, in round numbers.


Posted By: Iamsniper1
Date Posted: July/14/2007 at 10:29
Thats quite the battery you have,I'm a little jealous about your 338 Lapua though,I would really like to get my hands on one to go up against my 300 yd for yd.I believe the 338 is being issued to the SAS as the main sniper weapon(Correct me if I'm wrong).I'm trying to aquire some Lapua brass for my 300 but @$150 per 100c its pricey.

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