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Conquest, VX-III, Monarch UCC, or 4200?

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Topic: Conquest, VX-III, Monarch UCC, or 4200?
Posted By: bryansd8
Subject: Conquest, VX-III, Monarch UCC, or 4200?
Date Posted: February/19/2007 at 23:02
After 20 years of varmint hunting I'm finally doing something I've always wanted to do: deer hunting! I thought I'd save myself
the work of ordering a Conquest, Elite 4200, VX-III, Monarch UCC all in 3-9x40 and just ask the pros here: which is the better
scope? I'm in Washington where it's rainy, wet, dreary. I've read the 4200 is the "...brightest scope in the world", and, well, you
could go on and on with these scopes. I guess bottom line is which is the most reliable with the best ability in dawn/dusk
hunting?

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I will give up my gun when they pry my cold, dead fingers from around it...



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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 04:36
All of these would serve you well.

Personally, out of this group, I am partial to Elite 4200. 

ILya


Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 05:59

i would say that the conquest is the weakest of the three. and that says a lot, because the conquest is a great scope.

 

for the price, IF they have any left, get the closout monarch UCC at http://www.swfa.com - www.swfa.com   - if not, buy 4200 and don't look back.

 

they are wonderful, rugged, bright scopes.

 

good luck and let us know what you decide. all of the afformentioned scopes are great.

 

J



Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 07:37
From the rainy wet weather you're descibing the Rainguard coating on the 4200 would be a definite plus.

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God save the Empire!


Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 07:54

the rainguard coating on the 4200 has performed well for me on nasty days in the SE.

 

J



Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 12:47

The 4200 is my choice out of these three scopes followed closely by the Conquest.



Posted By: bryansd8
Date Posted: February/20/2007 at 18:42

WOW! You gentlemen are IMPRESSIVE . I didn't expect such a fast reply to my question. Thank you, immensely, for your professional insite and opinion. I'm also impressed that everyone, at least in regard to my question, is on the same page about which scope to purchase: the 4200. It makes sense. However, after reviewing the massive Monarch sale I ALSO bought the 5.5-16x44 as well. I know a good deal when I see one. The Monarch will sit my Marlin 917 for now. It's a great rifle and shoots about .75 inch at 100 yards with Winchesters. So....it deserves a great scope.

 

Again, thanks for your help, all of you! This board ROCKS!



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I will give up my gun when they pry my cold, dead fingers from around it...


Posted By: gozarian
Date Posted: February/21/2007 at 12:55
I live in the rain capital of the free world, southeast Alaska!  That being said I have tried a lot of scopes over the years.  I currently run some 4200's, conquests, lightseekers and a swaro.  I'm not a very big Nikon fan and DEFINITELY not a leupold fan so I can't comment on those two.  I guess for the rain, the 4200's hold the "overall" edge.  I think that crap about being the "brightest scope in the world" is just that however, a load of crap!  While finishing some load development at the range with two rifles last fall I really saw the difference.  One rifle sported a 4200 in a 2.5-10x40 with rainguard.  The other sported a swarovski AV in a 3-10x40.  The light was failing, the fog was rolling in and I was in a hurry to finish so I could get back to the reloading bench!  I basically couldn't see downrange when looking through the 4200 any longer so I picked up the rifle with the swaro and it was like HOLY $%&()**() WOW!  So much for touting yourself as being the brightest scope in the world because this swaro just kicked your butt!  I easily could have killed an animal and probably still had another 15 minutes of usable light left through the swaro.  Now then, I know that may not happen to most of you folks who don't hunt in the rain and fog and actually; there isn't much difference when looking through both scopes on a clear day.  The conquests are fantastic; haven't gone back to range lately with all of them, but looking through them out of my garage door near dark through the rain I rank them as follows: Swarovski #1, Conquest #2, Pentax Lightseeker #3, Bushnell Elite #4.  I would love to compare the new Kahles; they are most probably the best.  All that being said however, I still have a couple 4200's because of the rainguard and I also like that firefly reticle.  Optics junkies unite! 


Posted By: Cajun Hunter
Date Posted: February/21/2007 at 13:02

That makes me feel good about my choice.  I am getting a new Kahles.



Posted By: Jsimoneaud
Date Posted: February/21/2007 at 14:37
I like the nikon monarchs, I really like the sale prices at swfa, you did not mention Sightron, I just bought a new Sightron SII and I like it -  but the nikon sale is the best deal right now.

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J Simoneaud
IT Security Supervisor
State of Louisiana



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