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Topic: WHO here hunts with a 50mm obj primarily
Posted By: SAKO75
Subject: WHO here hunts with a 50mm obj primarily
Date Posted: February/11/2007 at 16:48
How do you like it?
Do you notice an added benefit with the 50mm vs smaller objectives?

Trying to decide between the diavari in both and the weight is only 1oz different....



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Posted By: ceylonc
Date Posted: February/11/2007 at 21:38

I haven't deer/hog hunted with a scope that had a sub 50mm front objective since 1998.  I upgraded to both Burris FF II and Loopy VX III 50mm scopes at that time and was very pleased with the change.  To me the added weight is a non-issue and I believe that the performance justifies using the larger objective.

 

I have since sold both of those scopes but still hunt with 52mm & 56mm scopes.  Going to try out a 44mm Meostar for coyotes this year.  Didn't feel that low light "brightness" was as important as it is hunting deer. 



Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/11/2007 at 22:18

Hello Sako 75

 

I 56 for hunting,exellent image in low to no light up to 10x. I like Ceylonc do not mind the little eextra weight

and I actualy apreciate a little extra weight for recoil, all my hunting rifles also have full alluminum bedding blocks

and tactical rings and mounts for this reason and for absolute rugedness. There are a few gentlemen I know that 72

but I draw the limit at 56 because I do not hunt past 10x.



Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 07:23

Hi Sako -

 

i too am a fan of the 50mm + club.

 

i hunt 50's and 56's mostly on my longer rifles for added hunting time (lowlight performance).

 

The bigger objectives let me sit longer than people w/ 32-44mm objectives. 

 

if you don't need the lowlight performance, you don't NEED a 50mm +

 

my 2 cents.

 

J



Posted By: stumpy
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 07:47
I often tell my friends who ask about this to only go with the "high end" 50 and 56's if they have alot of self control and a good watch. The end of your hunt will be totally determined by the time of day rather then the light conditions.


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 08:05
I am using a 3.5-10x50 VarX-III on a .22mag rimfire Ruger77. Sometimes I use a spotlight and sometimes not. Under moonlight it is bright enough that I have connected on varmints as small as raccoon and opposum at 60 yards. That is nothing special other than the only light is from the moon. I can say it is no brighter than a 6x42 Leupold Tactical I have. This seems to be an optimum size for brightness in any of the better brands, though. Compared to the variable at 6x, the fixed is better. The 50mm allows me to use 8x under moonlight, so it gets the nod there. 


Posted By: Obi Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 09:11
My very first scope was with a 42 mm objective then I got a Simmons 44mm then upgraded to a Leupold 50 mm for a while, then I started buying European glass & I've never bought or hunted with anything smaller than 50 mm since buying the Leupold several years ago. Anything smaller than a 50 mm drives me nuts for some reason. I live in a state where having a scope for low light is critical, so I've always been 50 mm + objective guy.  


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 09:33

I personally like smaller objectives on big game scopes. As I have said on other threads, SVD has some large objective scopes on some really nice hunting guns and they look great. They are nicer European 30mm scopes (S&B) and look like they belong there. It has changed my mind somewhat. S&B, Zeiss and Kahles glass are excellent if you go with a 50mm or larger.

A friend of mine took a 56mm Diavari to Alaska on a grizzly, sheep and moose hunt. From his pictures the hunt looked to be extremely rugged, high country back packing. He had this scope on a Dakota .300 in Talley Quick Detachables. I have no doubt about the ruggedness of these scopes if that means anything to this question.



Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 11:00

I've used a Swarovski 4-12x50 for the last few years and found the extra objective beneficial when using the scope on 10x and up.  Since it does not have an adjustable objective I was able to mount it with medium rings so I had no cheek weld/eye alignment issues.

 

To me a larger objective is like a spare tire, you don't have to have it but it sure is nice when you need it.

 

Keep in mind that all scopes within the same mfg/model will have the same "brightness", they just do it on different powers.  IE: A 50mm Swarovski is not "brighter" than a 42mm Swarovski.  The larger objective just allows you to maintain a larger exit pupil on higher powers.

 

Link to similar discussions

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5023&PN=1 - http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5023&PN=1



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Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 11:26

good reply chris.  you are right on the money.

 

i say 'brighter' but it is indeed because i have the bigger exit pupil to send me the captured light.

 

I let a HUGE whitetail walk because i couldn't see his rack clear enough w/ a 44mm zeiss conquest and said, NEVER again. 

since that season i have hunted w/ 56mm's. and i enjoy the view ;)

 

J



Posted By: Duce
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 15:11

I use the 50 or 56 most of the time better in low light and we have an indoor range (100 yrd.)  with poor light and the big objective helps. I don`t mind the weight it is only a couple of oz. difference and I cannot hit what i can`t see

Duce 



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Posted By: B&C Buck
Date Posted: February/12/2007 at 22:01
Count me in the 50mm club as well.  It usually doesn't matter, but occasionally the need for a 50 over a 40 will arise.  The size/weight/ring height doesn't bother me so I figure better to be safe than sorry and carry a 50mm.  Now I am so used to it, I feel funny with anything smaller...silly I know. 



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