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Topic: Dangerous Game Scope
Posted By: claytonkolb
Subject: Dangerous Game Scope
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 00:13

I have the 10rd compact Steyr rifle (Mountain Version) and would like to find a great small, fast, and clear scope for it.  I like the German #4 reticle or the heavy duplex for fast shooting in the heavy rainforest here in Washington. I notice Zeiss doesn't make a Dangerous Game style of scope anymore and I am really in the 500$ or less catagory anyway.  Is there a scope in the 9" length and really light weight anymore?  If so can you guys point me in the right direction?




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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 01:16
Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 would probably fit the bill.

On the low end, there is Weaver V3 1-3x20

I'd also recommend looking at Trijicon Accupoint 1.25-4x24 and Meopta Meostar 1.5-5x20

ILya


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 12:06

I second the Meopta Meostar 1.5-5x20 or look into the discountined Kahles C1.1-4x24 scopes for a truly great performer at a great price while they last.



Posted By: claytonkolb
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 14:00

Thanks Guys!!!!!

 

I will take a look at those scopes, but I notice that Leupold has the scopes in question in the VX-III series.  Is it worth the extra money to go from a VX-II to a VX-III? 



Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 14:06

it is my understanding that there is a noticable difference in optical quality from the vx-II vs the vx-III

 

definitely check out the meostart by meopta - the glass is superior and they have great reticles.

 

good luck.

 

J



Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: December/01/2006 at 14:12

The Leupold and Weaver are not  good choices IMO. These scopes lack the quality in the Weavers case

and optical properties with both compared to the other scopes listed.

 

 



Posted By: mwyates
Date Posted: December/03/2006 at 15:48
Many custom builders of DGR's recommend the Leupold VX III 1.5-5X20 as the scope of choice.  Get the VX III instead of the VX II if you can afford it.  The other option would be a quality low power non'variable.    Contrary to what you might read above, these have been found to hold up under heavy recoil.


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: December/03/2006 at 16:09
I was suprised to see how bright the 1.5 - 5 Vari-X III was this season. Dave Talley told me once that Ross Seyfried used this scope on his guns and this is when I asked about something for a 7 mag.


Posted By: claytonkolb
Date Posted: December/04/2006 at 01:28

So its looking like the VX-III scope are the way to go.   Which reticle would be faster in dark forest situations, the Leupold German #4, German #1, or the Heavy Duplex?



Posted By: mwyates
Date Posted: December/04/2006 at 08:37
I've got the Heavy Duplex in a FX III 6X42.  It's actually a bit heavy for my purposes, but I think it would work great for yours.  The #4 is probably OK, but I'd like the heavier reticle myself.


Posted By: silver
Date Posted: December/04/2006 at 08:48

 

 

I like the fact that the #4 offers a cleaner field of view.  There is not so much stuff blocking the light coming in.  There is not the post taking room and blocking the view of what else may be happening.



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Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: December/04/2006 at 09:32

you can't go wrong w/ a #4 - it's thick enough to notice in the low light and open at the top for 'finding' your targets.

 

it's the choice of reticle on my last 4-5 scopes.........love em.....

 

good luck.  did you look at the meostar scope, yet?

 

J



Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: December/04/2006 at 16:03
Originally posted by claytonkolb claytonkolb wrote:

So its looking like the VX-III scope are the way to go.   Which reticle would be faster in dark forest situations, the Leupold German #4, German #1, or the Heavy Duplex?

 

I am sorry you feel that way about the Leupold scope ,it is not the best way to go. The #1 is the fastest in a dark forest followed by a FFP #4  IMO.



Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: December/05/2006 at 07:38

Who in the heck talked you into the Leupold? 

 

You need to compare before you pull the trigger on those.

 

There are noticably better scopes for less money.

 

J



Posted By: mwyates
Date Posted: December/05/2006 at 17:15
Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

Who in the heck talked you into the Leupold? 

 

You need to compare before you pull the trigger on those.

 

There are noticably better scopes for less money.

 

J

 

Ask around of some people who actually own and use DGR's.  You'll still want the Leupold.



Posted By: claytonkolb
Date Posted: December/05/2006 at 23:39
I like the Meopta 1.5-5x20 Meostar R1 30mm Rifle Scope but it is nearly 650$!!!!  That is nearly 200$ more than the Leupold VX-III scopes.  In need fairly light, compact (under 9" in length) and fast reticle.  But seems I have landed on a diffcult scope to get now days, because for some reason not every scope manufacture is making them in all there line of scopes.  Which I think is weird, because there is a whole host of rifles that are being made with 20" or less barrels and are being made for the brush/heavy forest.  Not too metion, isn't there still people heading on safari's shooting  "Dangerous Game". 


Posted By: silver
Date Posted: December/06/2006 at 09:27

 

clayton,

 

Let's remember that the comapnies who make rifles scope are a business.  They do not do it for free.  They have to ask the question, how many of these would we sell, and how much would we make?  What's the return on my investment or how quickly would I double my money if I sell this verses that?



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Posted By: jonbravado
Date Posted: December/06/2006 at 09:58

the meopta meostar may be a lil pricier -

 

but it is compared to the high-end zeiss and swaro's - they must be doing something right.

 

i have one, and consider these scopes part of the elite few.  i absolutely love it.

 

J



Posted By: claytonkolb
Date Posted: December/10/2006 at 00:35

Silver

 

I see your point, I assumed that there were a lot of people looking for DGR scopes.



Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: December/10/2006 at 09:48

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 would probably fit the bill.

On the low end, there is Weaver V3 1-3x20

I'd also recommend looking at Trijicon Accupoint 1.25-4x24 and Meopta Meostar 1.5-5x20

ILya

Koshkin was on the right track with the Trijicon Accupoint 1.25 - 4 x 24 If you have not considered this scope you have missed the boat as it is both Tritium and fiber optic lighted and uses a POST reticle. This is a Dangerous Game Scope and the lighted reticle is quite valuable in low light.

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/TR21R/trijicon_1.25-4x24_accu-point_rifle_scope.htm - TR21R http://www.riflescopes.com/products/TR21R/trijicon_1.25-4x24_accu-point_rifle_scope.htm">Trijicon 1.25-4x24 Accu-Point Rifle Scope Trijicon 1.25-4x24 Accu-Point Rifle Scope
  • Matte
  • Red Triangle BAC
  • 1"
SWFA: $534.95

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/TR21R/trijicon_1.25-4x24_accu-point_rifle_scope.htm" target=_blank onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage'btn_mi0', '', '/images/nav/btn_moreinfo_over.gif', 1;">More Info... http://www.riflescopes.com/addtocart.asp?number=TR21R&qty=1" target=_blank onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage'btn_bi0', '', '/images/nav/btn_buy_over.gif', 1;">Buy Now

 

 

If you go Leupold

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU54902/leupold_1.5-5x20_vx-iii_30mm_riflescope.htm - LEU54902 http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU54902/leupold_1.5-5x20_vx-iii_30mm_riflescope.htm">Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-III 30mm Riflescope Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-III 30mm Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Illuminated Duplex
  • 30mm
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $579.95
http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU54902/leupold_1.5-5x20_vx-iii_30mm_riflescope.htm" target=_blank onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage'btn_mi0', '', '/images/nav/btn_moreinfo_over.gif', 1;">More Info... http://www.riflescopes.com/addtocart.asp?number=LEU54902&qty=1" target=_blank onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage'btn_bi0', '', '/images/nav/btn_buy_over.gif', 1;">Buy Now

Another route would be an AimPoint

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/11420/aimpoint_2x_9000l_30mm_red_dot_sight.htm - 11420 http://www.riflescopes.com/products/11420/aimpoint_2x_9000l_30mm_red_dot_sight.htm">Aimpoint 2x 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight Aimpoint 2x 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight
  • Matte
  • 1 MOA
  • 30mm
  • Free Aimpoint Bikini Lens Cover w/ Purchase
SWFA: $422.95
More Info... Buy Now



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Posted By: claytonkolb
Date Posted: December/11/2006 at 17:38
Wow, Thanks for the ideas Urimaginaryfrnd



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