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Topic: Vintage Rifles and Scopes
Posted By: Son of Ed
Subject: Vintage Rifles and Scopes
Date Posted: November/16/2019 at 11:29

If I had more money I would be throwing it away on all the rifles I always wanted but couldn't afford to buy in The Olde Days....... Bucky


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/16/2019 at 11:32
But I did buy a few along the way through life.....


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I once had an 1883 Winchester Model 1873 in 38/40.....















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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/16/2019 at 12:35
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I also had a Remington 722 BDL Deluxe ......which got disappeared during a divorce........a 300 Savage.....which was discontinued in 1955.....





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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/16/2019 at 12:38
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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 02:21
Hello Ed, took the 1950s vintage FN Commercial out to the Holland and Holland shooting cinema yesterday. Great fun had. Also shot with my buddy who had his 375 H&H Parker Hale out

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 06:11
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That reminds me....years ago when we were in South Africa we went down to Gold Reef City in Johannesburg and walked around that park that was a recreation of 1890s Johannesburg during the gold rush. 

They had operating hotels and restaurants and general stores and saloons and stuff. They had antique stores and a GUN STORE! So I was poking around in there! 

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I saw a Cogswell and Harrison 375 H & H for sale for 2500 Rand....at that time that would have been the equivalent of $833 American!!!   But we were fixing to go back to the US and needed to keep our money....but it was a real bargain!  I also saw--- with my own eyes!!!  a Brevex Mauser magnum action for only 600 Rand!!!  ( $200 US!! )  .....and I didn't buy it!!  Loco


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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 06:14

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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 06:30
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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 06:32
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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 08:00
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 08:40

Jack O'Connor's personal .416 Rigby on a Brevex Mauser magnum action.......incidentally, that is a Weaver scope which attests to the durability of those old Weavers.....












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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 08:44
I have two El Paso Weavers in my closet.....a K4 Micro-Trac and a K6 Micro-Trac from about 1980....I wouldn't sell them for ANYTHING!!!  

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 08:54
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A K4 Weaver Micro-Trac from 1980 beats the pants off a Leupold 4X M8 six ways from Sunday!!  I know! I had both of them! The Weaver was 4.1 power which gave a BIGGER image....it had a larger field of view, the crosshairs were fatter (!) and it was WAY BETTER in Low Light conditions!  Plus.....the bluing matched the bluing on pre-64 Winchesters perfectly......hee hee





 


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 08:56
But don't tell anybody.....it might raise the price of them on eBay!!!    

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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 12:45
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Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 12:51
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Eva Longoria had a nip slip and also a leg slip on David Letterman........








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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: November/17/2019 at 16:52
Those Brevex Mausers are great bits of kit... And Eva Longoria ain't bad either!


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/10/2019 at 13:27
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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/10/2019 at 13:35
The Brevex actions are interesting. French of course, and one of the few makers who regularly made actions that could take bolt action chamberings such as 505 Gibbs.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/10/2019 at 13:40
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/10/2019 at 13:43
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Here's the French MAS .22.....






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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/10/2019 at 13:46
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I sure would to find a ZG-47 Czech Mauser.....





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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/11/2019 at 12:14
Ed, there you go:

http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/brno-galas-zg47-30-06.175523/ - https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/brno-galas-zg47-30-06.175523/




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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: December/11/2019 at 16:27
How about my old CZ BRNO model 600 .270?

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/11/2019 at 16:31
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I'll buy it.....









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Date Posted: December/12/2019 at 19:43
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Date Posted: December/12/2019 at 19:44
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/14/2019 at 21:22
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I always wanted a Browning FN High Power










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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/15/2019 at 08:50
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I always wanted a Carl Gustaf 2000......







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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/15/2019 at 08:53
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The closest I came was a Tikka M695.....I GOT one of them!!!  6.5X55 SE...... Bucky








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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/15/2019 at 10:22
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/15/2019 at 10:24
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Many moons ago my wife had a Ruger M77 257 Roberts......











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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/15/2019 at 20:07
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That was up in Wyoming......











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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/17/2019 at 05:57
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The wonderful Winchester Model 61





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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/17/2019 at 10:55
My .257 Roberts has an FN Mauser action originally out of a Browning I believe.

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Posted By: anweis
Date Posted: December/18/2019 at 18:59
25 Years ago somebody very kind loaned me a Win 61 or 62 like that. For 4 years. I used it to shoot rabbits anywhere between Amarillo, Hobbs, and Lamesa, Seminole, and Snyder.
Good .22 ammo cost $0.80 or so per 50 rds, and i rarely missed.  I also got 3 hogs with it.  I kept the family supplied with meat for 4 years.  Must have  have been 800 rabbits or more. All of them cleaned and cut with a Swiss Army Knife that i still have. Wife cooked it in 100 different ways. When i left i cleaned and oiled the rifle and returned to owner.  Also sent many thank you cards to ranchers who allowed my shooting.  Some of them may be reading this. Thank you again and again.


Posted By: anweis
Date Posted: December/18/2019 at 19:10
Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:

25 Years ago somebody very kind loaned me a Win 61 or 62 like that. For 4 years. I used it to shoot rabbits anywhere between Amarillo, Hobbs, and Lamesa, Seminole, and Snyder.
Good .22 ammo cost $0.80 or so per 50 rds, and i rarely missed.  I also got 3 hogs with it.  I kept the family supplied with meat for 4 years.  Must have  have been 800 rabbits or more. All of them cleaned and cut with a Swiss Army Knife that i still have. Wife cooked it in 100 different ways. When i left i cleaned and oiled the rifle and returned to owner.  Also sent many thank you cards to ranchers who allowed my shooting.  Some of them may be reading this. Thank you again and again.


And an ostrich that somebody was angry with, and an old goat. Big Smile


Posted By: anweis
Date Posted: December/18/2019 at 19:14
The ostrich made for some very fine eating and i would not mind having another, the goat was still as tough as boot leather after 3 hours in the pressure cooker.


Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/19/2019 at 13:21
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I also had a Model 62....but I preferred the Model 61.





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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/19/2019 at 13:29
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I always wanted a Winchester Model 12 3 inch Duck Gun.....




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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:06
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:09
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:12
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I always wanted a Walther KKJ 22 rifle.......





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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:17
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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:39
When I was a kid my first .22 was a BSA Martini (Model 8 I believe). For some reason I can’t seem to post pictures right now. These were commonly used for cadet training around WWII. Foolishly traded it for a semi-auto years later, although the aperture sights would not work well anymore with these older eyes!

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:43

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My first woodchuck-killing rifle was a Remington Model 514......


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:45
When I was twelve years old I used to toss dead light bulbs up in the air and blow them away shooting this rifle one-handed......Nothing to it!!!   

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:47
Nowadays someone would probably complain that I was shooting LEAD up into the atmosphere!!!   Shocked

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Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:48
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/21/2019 at 16:51
I used to....now and then.....richochet bullets off the lake just to hear them whine!     Shocked




......but don't tell anybody!!!!      




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This is a real photo of the real Elk Lake in Pennsylvania......I went to Elk Lake High School a quarter of a mile from here.....










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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 01:21
Hi Ed,

Used to have an FN Trombone which is a pump action .22lr.

And I do have a 3" heavy duck Winchester M12. 1955 I think.

Scrummy

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And here's a comparison of the takedown between it and the SA-22 - maybe showing a change in thinking between the 2?


ATB,

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 03:05
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My wife had a Browning 22 Grade II that I got for her.....we shot a lot of rabbits with it up in Wyoming. It had super fine sights...that was the gun that used to eject hot shells down the cuff of my sleeves!   Bucky








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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 03:07
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 03:15
Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:

25 Years ago somebody very kind loaned me a Win 61 or 62 like that. For 4 years. I used it to shoot rabbits anywhere between Amarillo, Hobbs, and Lamesa, Seminole, and Snyder.
Good .22 ammo cost $0.80 or so per 50 rds, and i rarely missed.  I also got 3 hogs with it.  I kept the family supplied with meat for 4 years.  Must have  have been 800 rabbits or more. All of them cleaned and cut with a Swiss Army Knife that i still have. Wife cooked it in 100 different ways. When i left i cleaned and oiled the rifle and returned to owner.  Also sent many thank you cards to ranchers who allowed my shooting.  Some of them may be reading this. Thank you again and again.

I ate a lot of huevos rancheros in Lamesa years ago while working on a rig south of there....yummo...

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....that was the restaurant that gave you huevos rancheros if you ordered Bacon and Eggs......hahahaha!!  










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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 03:32
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 03:34
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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 06:47
Hi Ed,

Those SA-22s are great. Tempted to try and get another one. My father used one growning up in the Kalahari as a snake rifle. Nice and accurate.

Scrummy


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/22/2019 at 09:47
Wow....I liked living in Africa....although I was never actually in Botswana....close to it....

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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 01:47
Yeah, Botswana is lovely. Okavango is truly special


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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 07:37
Originally posted by Dogger Dogger wrote:

When I was a kid my first .22 was a BSA Martini (Model 8 I believe). For some reason I can’t seem to post pictures right now. These were commonly used for cadet training around WWII. Foolishly traded it for a semi-auto years later, although the aperture sights would not work well anymore with these older eyes!


If you're talking about the .22 Martini that looks and works like the Martini Henry, my brother has one. I've shot it, and it's a great rifle. I can't get my brother to trade with me for it.


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 15:53
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I always wanted a Husqvarna......I finally got one.....an older FN model from the early fifties.....


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 15:54
I had to sell a Winchester in order to pay for it!    

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Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 17:40
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Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 18:43
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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: December/23/2019 at 21:09
That is the rifle I had Lynn. Good shooter. If you can post a pic of it that would be great. Don’t know why I can’t seem to, maybe Ed put some voodoo hex on me.

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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: December/24/2019 at 08:48
I'd like to post a picture, but it's a whole state and a half away at my brother's.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/24/2019 at 10:40

Look what I found for sale in Rapid City.....



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Date Posted: December/24/2019 at 10:41
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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: December/25/2019 at 09:36
Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

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Just OLD...


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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: December/26/2019 at 11:26
Met my old partner at the range today. He had a FN sporter in 3006 made in 1951. It was a transition rifle; had the 98 Mauser style safety and magazine follower, but no clip guide, and an adjustable receiver mounted peep sight with a medium heavy barrel. He was knocking the hell out of an 8" steel plate at 100 yds with it. I wanted it.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/26/2019 at 12:55
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I have an old VZ 24 Mauser that was sporterized probably in the sixties....ground down to FN specs....mine has Weaver bases and rings....generic barrel in 30/06....with sights....left hand safety....original military trigger....

....I'm guessing this is from a 1930 batch based on comparing photos in the book Mauser Military Rifles of the World....









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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:23
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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:32
That’s a newer model the originals had cut checkering.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:34
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:36
1964 was the year I almost had a nervous breakdown because Winchester discontinued all their good stuff!   Shocked

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:39
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:41
But I didn't buy a new Winchester until the Featherweight XTR came out....in 1982....

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:55
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In the Fall of 1981 my wife and I were in one of Douglas, Wyoming's gun stores and there was a stack of 1981 catalogues on the counter. I flipped through it and discovered that Winchester was bringing back the Featherweight with the old 1910-style checkering pattern from their Special Orders back in the old days...

Two months later I bought one in Douglas in 270. 

A good rifle. 










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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 05:58
I wish I still had it, but I sold it to pay for a Husqvarna.....  Roll Eyes

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 07:09
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I wanted a Walther KKJ.....maybe Scrummy can find one for me.....  Bucky








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Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 07:11





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Posted By: Scrumbag
Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 09:14
Ed,

You ask, I deliver:

http://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/walther/bolt-action/22-lr/kkj-190731115236007 - https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/walther/bolt-action/22-lr/kkj-190731115236007

http://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/walther/bolt-action/22rf/180508114412001 - https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/walther/bolt-action/22rf/180508114412001

How's that for service?

Scrummy


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Date Posted: December/30/2019 at 15:20






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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/01/2020 at 17:30
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Posted By: anweis
Date Posted: January/01/2020 at 19:50
Walther KKJ in .22 Hornet would be a beautiful rifle. There is a minty one online, if you gather your donations.
I am partial to Sako Rihimaki L461 in .222 with the straight comb stock awith classic point checkering nd raised cheek piece.


Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/02/2020 at 05:57
Yes I 'd love to have a Sako 222

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/03/2020 at 21:36
As they say in Africa....." a Two Two Two..."   Bucky 







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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/03/2020 at 21:47
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The leopard was so HUGE it would have been the Rowland Ward # 1 Record Book Leopard if if had been killed legally.....












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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 08:37
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Savage Model 99 EG with Redfield receiver sight.....nice





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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 08:40
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 11:56
Back in the 1920s there was some Indian Maharaja that shot several TIGERS with the 300 Savage.....and, of course, Teddy Roosevelt shot a lion in 1909 with a 30/06......


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 12:02
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Jack O'Connor said he shot two Grizzlies with a one-shot kill......one was with a 270 Winchester and the other was a 300 Weatherby.....




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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 19:18
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Today I went over to the Pawn Shop/ Gun Store here in Waco....I saw an early Remington 760 ADL ( the so-called 5 Diamond one...)  It was a 270. It wasn't too bad for a mid-fifties rifle...maybe 90 % but the forearm checkering was pretty flat....needs re-checkering there....it had a old Stith 4X scope on it....




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This is a nice specimen from the Internet......





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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 19:23
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I also saw a for real Winchester 1876.....45/60....with octagon barrel....they were 28 inches long....I picked it up....carefully ( it was $4000 )  and took a look at it. Mostly gray/silver steel formerly case-colored....you could still see traces of it on the receiver and hammer and lever...









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Posted By: Sgt. D
Date Posted: January/04/2020 at 21:13
My Granpa's 98 Mauser 8mm I've shot it some. Still very accurate. And feels good in sighting.
He did the checkering with his pocket knife. Crude but you'd have to know him to Appreciate it. Don't know all the details but, I think he did the bolt knob also. He was a dozer and equipment operator and he was "real crafty" as Granny would say. He helped build many of the roads in McDowell County back in the 40-50's.
He was deadly with the Williams peep sight. When I get a chance I'll post a pic of the 21 point non-typical he took in upper Michigan in 1946. I am blessed to have that also.
S/147 1938
Back then he would be dropped off where ever they were hunting and hike in. Spend the night and hike out by days end the next day packing out whatever they had killed. He had his trusty compass where he wouldn't lose it.
 
Those were real men, tougher railroad spikes. They lived hard and played harder. I remember him being a hard no nonsense man who expected you to act like a man didn't matter that you were only 6. A hard line is what is missing these days. That's why our freedom is all but gone.
This reminds me that I appreciate things that are priceless. And I actually have a few.


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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: January/05/2020 at 06:12
Good memories of a better time Sarge.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/05/2020 at 07:46
I have my Grandfather's old hunting knife.

It is an ancient Joseph P Rodgers knife from England....it had a plain wood handle on it that he had checkered by himself, too. It is a sporting knife, I guess, but it almost looks like a kitchen knife....about a five inch blade all brown with age now.

He made a sheath for it out of a doeskin that he had killed. It has painting on it the says "1930"....






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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/05/2020 at 07:52
Scale Tang - Stag
I always intended to someday order a Sheffield Bowie knife from A Wright and Sons but the British government has put them all out of business by not even allowing them to export them to customers overseas....and of course people cannot even buy a knife in the UK anymore, I believe....

I waited too long to do it....















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Posted By: Sgt. D
Date Posted: January/05/2020 at 08:38
When you get a chance post a pic of your Grandfather's knife. Its good to see well made old steel.
 
This is my favorite skinning knife. Bought it over 20 yrs ago at a stock yard flea market ($5.00). Don't have the sheath anymore but the best skinning knife I've ever seen. Takes a edge quick and stays stupid sharp for each job. Had to epoxy the handle once but has stayed together ever since.
 


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Take care of Soldiers, Show em how its done and do it with em, Run to the Fight & and hold your ground! I die my men go home! If you're a NCO and this ain't you. GET OUT! GOD BLESS AMERICA!


Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: January/05/2020 at 08:45
Image result for webley and scott 920 K OU

Yesterday I also saw a Webley & Scott 920K  20 gauge OU.....used....they wanted too much for it but it was almost mint...

....I understand they are made in Italy....very freaking nice....



....they are about $950 new at Bud's Gun Shop....







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