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Topic: Got wrong scope back
Posted By: Lockjaw
Subject: Got wrong scope back
Date Posted: February/22/2018 at 20:18
Sent my Minox ZA5 off to have them replace the O-ring in behind the objective lense. Had to send it to Blaser USA for the repair, and then scope went to Germany. 

Came back today. Not in same box I sent it in. Pull scope out and it has dents in the main tube from the rings, right? FOR A LONG ACTION. Mine was in a DNZ 1 piece for a short action. I mean I don't know who mounted this scope, but dang........... 

I took a pic of the scope sitting next to the rings and shot it off in a email asking them what they planned to do because I was not happy. 

I guess some knucklehead is running around with my UNDENTED scope and happy as a clam, while I got his hoopdie beater model. 





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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: February/22/2018 at 20:28
Bummer man. That sucks. Let us know how it plays out

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 05:35
I'm pissed. All the trouble I have had with the gun and getting it to shoot right, I just pulled scope off and went through all the screws and redid them with lck Tite. I would have seen that. And I would have had to.moce the scope position to match the dents on this one.

And I removed it to send it in. I would have seen it.

And op top of that, mine has some super glue on one of the scope caps. This has none.


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 06:33
That sucks, shouldn’t be an issue returning it and getting properly compensated,... you have the serial number of your original scope?,

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 07:44
Crap deal for sure.  i'm sure Minox will fix.  Keep us in the loop.  Sorry you got to wait longer.

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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 07:59
Just WOW. I'd be pissed too. Good luck getting it corrected.

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 08:34
I called Blaser this am. Here is what I was told. 

Minox had a company in the states assemble the ZA line, and virtually all of them have had warranty issues. I gathered there is a legal battle going on right now. She said most likley they will replace it with a ZX version, which I know nothing about. I would wonder if the glass is as good as the glass in mine, which is Shott glass. 

Yes I have the original serial number. I scanned everything before I sent it in. 

I mean dang, a DNZ mount is machined out of a billet block of aluminum. All one  piece. This scope looks like it was mounted in walmart rings or something. 


Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 08:44
The ZX line is 30MM so, my base is no good. That would limit me to a 2-10x50 most likely as the replacement. 

Not so great for a 308, mine was a 3-15x42. They have a 3-15x50. It says all their scopes come with option of illumination. 




Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 08:46
ZX is better than ZA, do if they do that you will get a better scope.

ILya

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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 10:33
I would look at the price delta between the 2-10 and the 3-15.  If I could get new mounts for less than the delta, I'd take the better scope in 3-15 and get new rings (base if needed.)

Back when Hudisco was servicing Hensoldt, they shipped me another guy's scope (mine was a 3-12x56, his was a 4-16.)  I called and said, "I need that scope for a shoot" and he said "just mount the 4-16 for now."  I was floored, never needed to send anything back to them, and never would have.

Ahh, the stories of warranty mess-ups, such fun!


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Posted By: urbaneruralite
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 12:03
I got another fella's Burris binos one time. I also got mine back before I got around to calling them. They paid return shipping. I was surprised to see his were in worse shape than mine. I beat the crap out of everything.

My point is...I'm supposed to be doing something right now and I'm surfing forums instead. Bandito


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: February/23/2018 at 13:40
Minox will take care of you. And unfortunately things happen, no ones perfect. I have a pair of Minox HG binos and they were missing the lens covers. Called Minox USA office and they next day shipped me some. I also received a package from their home office in Germany either a day later or two days later with lens covers. The individual I talked with wasn't sure if they had any at the USA office so they must have contacted the home office in Germany. To make sure I was taken care of.


Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/26/2018 at 08:58
They came back and offered me a ZX5 3-15X50 with german #4 reticle. 

So I said, nah, I will keep what I got...... NOT!!

That is gonna be a scope right there. YippeeYippeeYippeeYippeeYippee


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: February/26/2018 at 09:17
Nice

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/26/2018 at 11:55
Except it weighs 24 oz. 

Going on my 700 AAC-SD, assuming I ever get it back. With a Boyd's At-One. Dang thing is going to weigh 12 pounds...........




Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: February/26/2018 at 14:54
nice upgrade even though it did cost inconvenience.

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/27/2018 at 15:25
Yes now just waiting for Remington to send my rifle back......................




Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: February/27/2018 at 19:10
Good luck on that.....

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: February/28/2018 at 07:45
Originally posted by Lockjaw Lockjaw wrote:

Yes now just waiting for Remington to send my rifle back......................



Any update on that with their bankruptcy and all?



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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: February/28/2018 at 11:18
Now the banks own most of it.

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: February/28/2018 at 12:55
I called Paduccah Shooters Supply, which is where I had to send it. They in turn sent it to Remington, which makes no sense to me.

Guy said they will probably just replace the gun, and then send it back the Paduccah for them to test it before sending it to me. 

Seems like we could eliminate some shipping costs in this process. 

I said maybe I should call Remington. HE said, they won't tell you anything. 

I asked him what I could replace it with if the new one doesn't shoot well either. I said I am hunting with it, so its not a 1000 yard paper puncher, and he started talking about a slim profile barrel. 

I was like, that is why I liked this gun, fat barrel and not to heavy.


Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/03/2018 at 11:21
Scope supposed to be delivered Monday!


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/05/2018 at 08:18

on the rifle - maybe you can just get a refund from the dealer who's handling the return and buy something else?




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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/07/2018 at 10:37
I wish on the rifle. I'd probably get the Savage instead. 

I got the scope last night, WOW, its big. Much bigger than the ZA5. And heavy. But its a nice unit. Very nice. 


Posted By: tpcollins
Date Posted: March/09/2018 at 12:06
I sent in a ZA5 with a loose ocular and they sent me a nice ZX5 2-10x45mm as a warranty replacement but it was the 30mm tube - looked like a ball bat sitting on my Ruger Ultralight. However, I was able to sell it for about $40 more than I invested in the ZA5.  Big Smile


Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 11:36
Remington said they redid the crown on the muzzle, and something else in the chamber, and then sent the gun back to Paduccah. The guy said it shot .83 inch at 100 yrds with Remington 168gr match ammo. 

Thats about half the group size we were able to get before. But still no where close to what my 700BDL 270 does with Federal Premium 130gr Nosler BT's. 

I figure if I still have issues I will just sell it and get something else. But it may shoot better than that with a different ammo. Figures Remington would shoot their ammo in it. 


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 12:14
.83 inch with a factory rifle is pretty darn good. 


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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 12:36
Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

.83 inch with a factory rifle is pretty darn good. 

agreed!!


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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 12:47
Yeah a better trigger, matched ammo, and a bedding job might just pull that in to .5 MOA

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Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 13:32
I have one 700 trigger that is tuned quite nicely without replacing. I guess I need a trigger scale


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: March/12/2018 at 14:25
Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

.83 inch with a factory rifle is pretty darn good. 

agreed!!


Lock the thread and call it a day.  Break Dance   Cheers 


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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/14/2018 at 08:58
It does need a trigger, the one that it has, even when adjusted as light as I can get it, still doesn't match my old 700 one I adjusted. 

I got the Talley rings in, scope is here, just waiting on the gun to see what happens. Man I bet it will weigh a ton........ 

But if it shoots good, then I guess it will be ok. I know it will weigh more with the At One stock over the cheapie hogue. I really wish someone made a good hunting one that was light, and the barrel channel fit. 




Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/14/2018 at 09:05
Magpul hunter stock isnt' bad IMO

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: March/14/2018 at 09:44
Manners, Mcmillan, AG composites, or Christensen Arms, all make light carbon fiber stocks.  I am sure there are others as well.  Rem 700 has a tremendous amount of after market stocks. 

This Christensen arms stock is only $350.  https://christensenarms.com/product/carbon-fiber-composite-sporter-stock/ - https://christensenarms.com/product/carbon-fiber-composite-sporter-stock/


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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: March/14/2018 at 10:17
http://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by-brand.html - https://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by-brand.html

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/15/2018 at 12:46
Boyds say the AT One weighs "about" 3 pounds. 

I know the gun was noticably heavier with it. 

I got a service ticket email from remington yesterday, so I guess that means they shipped my gun


Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: March/16/2018 at 16:59
Brother, your just over the double oak mountain from me if you have trouble with that 700 again I’ve got the gunsmith for you and he’d have it turned around in less than a month. A2 Precision!

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: March/16/2018 at 17:25
How about 10 3 shot groups at the same aiming point. When did 5 shot groups go out of fashion?

.83 ain’t bad for a hunting rifle.

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/19/2018 at 11:14
Well I got rifle back today. Not in original green box. Had some surface rust on barrel and a spot where I guess they had the barrel in a vise or something. WD40 seemed to get rid of it. They chamfered muzzle and lapped the barrel. 

Took it  in and had Mark's mount the scope and bore sight it, so it looks good now.... Just needs a better stock! 

I could see me selling the AT One and getting a full bed block Hogue too.  

And my target wasn't enclosed, so I guess I have to take their word for the accuracy claim. 

I did pick up some IMR 4064 over the weekend, so I may try to load some ammo for it some day soon. 


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/19/2018 at 13:10
good luck and keep us posted on how she shoots!

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/25/2018 at 16:13
Took gun out to hunting club to sight in and shoot.

Got on Target with Hornady 150 great American whitetail. Two 3 shot groups under 1 inch.

I put 5 federal gold match SMK 168's under an inch, and also 5 of 7 remaining handloads consisting of 168 nosler BT over 46.2 grain bc-l2 under 1 inch. One I pulled. 3 went through a hole for 2.

So not the best place to shoot, just some homemade table and a broken chair and my bag thing. Even with my heart beat making it dance around and the terrible trigger.

Much better shot performance than I saw prior to sending it back in. A better trigger and stock ought to help as would some load development.

So much happier with my gun now. Not like I let it cool down much either.


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/25/2018 at 16:47
excellent!

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take em!


Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/25/2018 at 18:56
Yes I was quite pleased with it.. now for a trigger....


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/26/2018 at 08:21
Good deal.  Timney makes a nice trigger for it and SWFA stocks them. https://swfa.com/shooting-gear/gun-parts.html?availability=In%20Stock&brand=Timney%20Triggers&firearm_type=Rifle&gun_manufacturer=Remington - https://swfa.com/shooting-gear/gun-parts.html?availability=In%20Stock&brand=Timney%20Triggers&firearm_type=Rifle&gun_manufacturer=Remington .

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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/26/2018 at 13:22
I was really pleased with the 150 gr performance. Those didn't group very well before. Over inch and a half. With the gunsmith shooting it in a much better situation than mine. 

I am going to tinker with the 168 grain Ballistic Tips and see what I can get to happen. I think that extra weigh would carry better for me if I had a longer shot. Which I do at my hunting club. 

This will about get me down to 1 rifle for the whole thing. This one is short enough it will work in a shooting house, or a tree stand, and yet still reach out and touch something if I need that. 




Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: March/26/2018 at 14:00
Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Good deal.  Timney makes a nice trigger for it and SWFA stocks them. https://swfa.com/shooting-gear/gun-parts.html?availability=In%20Stock&brand=Timney%20Triggers&firearm_type=Rifle&gun_manufacturer=Remington - https://swfa.com/shooting-gear/gun-parts.html?availability=In%20Stock&brand=Timney%20Triggers&firearm_type=Rifle&gun_manufacturer=Remington .


+1

I've had good luck with them on my m700's.

http://swfa.com/timney-triggers-remington-700-w-safety-105269.html - https://swfa.com/timney-triggers-remington-700-w-safety-105269.html


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Posted By: Lockjaw
Date Posted: March/27/2018 at 04:10
I'd be happy with my stock old 700 trigger on my 270. So much better.




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