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Printed Date: November/20/2017 at 18:32


Topic: Barrett Fieldcraft Rifle
Posted By: nralifer
Subject: Barrett Fieldcraft Rifle
Date Posted: May/14/2017 at 20:34
Wanted to see if anyone has looked at the new hunting rifle from Barrett. I ordered one in 30-06. Comes as a package. Has Tally rings and mounts, a carbon fiber stock with cheek piece, push feed action in short and long lengths. Mine was the long action. Holds four shells in an internal mag that will accommodate  rounds up to 3.375 inches long, a Nightforce SHV 42mm 3-10 power, scope covers, and in 30-06 a 24" 1:10 twist 6 grove barrel in stainless. Weighs 7 lbs unloaded. For $1800 I thought it was a decent value.  Worked up a load for it today using the 168gr Badlands Bulldozer. H4350 worked the best.  Got 0.355" 3 shot group, with a fourth shot free hand standing that hit within 1/2 inch of the group. Using 57 gr H4350 I got an average MV of 2872 fps.  The Bulldozer under todays conditions would stay supersonic to 1400 yds.

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Posted By: urbaneruralite
Date Posted: May/15/2017 at 07:51
I was interested when they said they would have some models with the bolt handle on the  correct side. Now that they have put that off, not so much.


Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/15/2017 at 09:28
It is on the "right" side. Lol😊

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: May/15/2017 at 14:25
👍🥃💥

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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: May/15/2017 at 16:56
Looks comparable to a Sako Carbonlight...for about a grand less. Not bad. Of course I've been pretty happy with my Tikka T3 Lite with a Manners stock it's not heavy. I'd like the better mounting options for the Barrett though.

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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/16/2017 at 04:55
Since my gun was a package deal and had the scope already mounted, I did not realize that the gun has three mounting screw holes on the front end of the receiver (best explained on the Barrett web site). They look like they are equally spaced and probably spaced to fit Talley bases. This configuration allows one to adjust the location of the front rings depending on the scope to be used. Screws used are #8-40. Kind of unique feature.

I'm surprised Tikka has not put Sako out of business. Their actions and rifles are every bit as good as Sako functionally, but less fancy and significantly less expensive. My problem with Tikka is that in 30 caliber they like to use 1:11 twist barrels which kind of limits the use of long bullets.


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: May/16/2017 at 07:53
My obermyer barrel has an 11" twist. It shoots 175, 180, and 190s extremly well. Before that i had a lilja with 11" twist and it shot all those bery well too.

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Posted By: hatton mann
Date Posted: May/16/2017 at 22:22
Just tried calling up 'Badlands Precision', unfortunately, it appears they can't afford a web-site,,,Sad


Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: May/17/2017 at 11:26
Originally posted by nralifer nralifer wrote:

My problem with Tikka is that in 30 caliber they like to use 1:11 twist barrels which kind of limits the use of long bullets.

I haven't really put mine to the test with anything long. When it comes time to rebarrel though I'll probably get one of these Criterions:  http://criterionbarrels.com/tikka-t3-and-t3x-prefit-barrels - http://criterionbarrels.com/tikka-t3-and-t3x-prefit-barrels  - 1:10 isn't much difference but a bit better.


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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/17/2017 at 20:55
Originally posted by hatton mann hatton mann wrote:

Just tried calling up 'Badlands Precision', unfortunately, it appears they can't afford a web-site,,,Sad

Try searching badlandsprecision.com 
It comes up as Badlands Precision LLC


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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/17/2017 at 21:36
One thing about bullet stability, is that they tend to lose some stability in cold air and high barometric pressure, that is the stability factor decreases.  Just play with the JBM stability calculator and vary the air temp. Also a marginally stable bullet may group well at a 100 yds in the summer but start to tumble at 300-500 yd in the winter. 

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Posted By: hatton mann
Date Posted: May/18/2017 at 20:59
nralifer & supertool, thanks for the in-put.
When I tried looking them up, all I hit was their Face Page page.
I don't do social media.

Thanks Again


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: May/18/2017 at 21:34
Originally posted by nralifer nralifer wrote:

Originally posted by hatton mann hatton mann wrote:

Just tried calling up 'Badlands Precision', unfortunately, it appears they can't afford a web-site,,,Sad

Try searching badlandsprecision.com 
It comes up as Badlands Precision LLC


I just cut and pasted the link badlandsprecision.com and it went to their site.



Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/19/2017 at 04:57
Tried to post a pic of the group. Not working. Can someone help?Loco

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/19/2017 at 07:42
PM inbound



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Posted By: hatton mann
Date Posted: May/19/2017 at 11:30
Let me be clear, the links/info provided by fellow members have proven effective.

Thanks again.


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: May/20/2017 at 18:30
I put badlandsprecision.com in the address bar and it went to their site. I did not use it to search for their site. Or you could call them at  1(605)665-1339.


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/25/2017 at 18:00
Posting for NRAlifer....




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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/25/2017 at 18:31
Thanks Mark. 👍 Average MV was 2872 fps.   

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: May/26/2017 at 04:40
Very nice 👍💥

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/26/2017 at 06:53
Originally posted by nralifer nralifer wrote:

Thanks Mark. 👍 Average MV was 2872 fps.   

You're welcome. 

Do you crimp your cases?  


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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/26/2017 at 15:54
Can't really crimp the copper bullets.

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/26/2017 at 16:33
That case neck looks crimped, is why I asked. 

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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: May/26/2017 at 17:56
Was a Remington case that originally was factory loaded with a Cor-Lokt bullet.

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/01/2017 at 12:55
George, I just bought a Fieldcraft in 7-08 (which will no doubt come as a big surprise to many here) a couple weeks ago, and I really like this rifle! I like it even better than the NULA/Forbes that inspired its design, as the action is a slight enhancement of the NULA, and unlike the NULA, it has an NP3 coated action and stainless barrel. It comes out of the box with proper barrel twists for today's high BC bullets, SUPERB trigger, smooth operating bolt, extremely light weight, nice stock ergos, probably the best factory bedding job I've ever seen, and fit and finish is outstanding! I'm not aware of any other out of the box factory rifle that's lighter. The only modification I've made to mine is to lower the trigger pull from around 3 lbs to 2 lbs. My only complaint is that it has a bit excessive throat length, so despite its 3" mag box, I still can't seat bullets out close to or touching the lands and still feed from the box. However, it does shoot well. So far, the only bullet I've tested in it has been your 145 gr Bulldozer, the only powder tested being Varget. I've been able to get sub-MOA 5-shot groups, with the best hovering around 0.75 MOA. Load testing is ongoing, but I'm still happy with the precision I'm getting, and if I don't beat 0.75 MOA this week experimenting with different powders and OALs, I'll happily deer hunt this season with my existing load of 40.5 gr Varget behind the 145BD. 

It's a great little rifle IMO!


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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: November/01/2017 at 15:51
Good press on the Fieldcraft Winkle!👍💥

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/13/2017 at 09:16
Forgot to update...in my last post, I stated I was unable to load OAL to touch lands and still feed from the magazine. This is incorrect. I misread results from my Stoney Point gauge, confirmed with a dummy round. I sometimes get a little ham-handed with the Stoney Pioint. Actually, a 145 Bulldozer touches lands at 2.950” COAL, and the Fieldcraft has a 3.0” mag box length.

The Fieldcraft is gonna get it’s share of hunting time this season. I’m really liking its balance, stock ergos, and trigger!

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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: November/18/2017 at 18:23
That 145BD is a heck of a bullet. Friend in town guided a Moose hunt in Alaska about a month ago. From a 7 Mag his client killed a 1500 lb bull with a single shot at 300 yds. The bullet went through the Lt shoulder and the animal dropped within 25 yds. Bullet went through but obviously expanded when they dressed the bull out. Surprised me. 

The action is very smooth and the trigger is excellent I think


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Posted By: HKtoTikka
Date Posted: November/19/2017 at 07:48
Originally posted by nralifer nralifer wrote:

I'm surprised Tikka has not put Sako out of business. Their actions and rifles are every bit as good as Sako functionally, but less fancy and significantly less expensive. My problem with Tikka is that in 30 caliber they like to use 1:11 twist barrels which kind of limits the use of long bullets.

Tikka won't put Sako out of business, the same way Chevy won't put Cadillac out of business.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/19/2017 at 09:28
Especially given that Sako and Tikka are both made in the same building.

To the slow twist point, European rifle manufacturers in general are behind the times on barrel twists. They stubbornly cling to the same slow twist rates that were considered the norm 30 years ago. It boggles my mind that they are so boneheaded. There is no disadvantage to fast twist with todays bullets. It doesn’t cost more and it gives the shooter a wider selection of bullets that shoot well. A fast twist can still shoot short, light bullets well, but a slow twist usually doesn’t shoot long bullets well. I don’t get it; why limit your potential customers? People who actually shoot will usually prefer a faster twist, and Joe Average who shoots half a box of ammo a year checking their gun’s zero won’t care about barrel twist or even know the difference.

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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: November/19/2017 at 17:47
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

George, I just bought a Fieldcraft in 7-08 (which will no doubt come as a big surprise to many here) a couple weeks ago, and I really like this rifle! I like it even better than the NULA/Forbes that inspired its design, as the action is a slight enhancement of the NULA, and unlike the NULA, it has an NP3 coated action and stainless barrel. It comes out of the box with proper barrel twists for today's high BC bullets, SUPERB trigger, smooth operating bolt, extremely light weight, nice stock ergos, probably the best factory bedding job I've ever seen, and fit and finish is outstanding! I'm not aware of any other out of the box factory rifle that's lighter. The only modification I've made to mine is to lower the trigger pull from around 3 lbs to 2 lbs. My only complaint is that it has a bit excessive throat length, so despite its 3" mag box, I still can't seat bullets out close to or touching the lands and still feed from the box. However, it does shoot well. So far, the only bullet I've tested in it has been your 145 gr Bulldozer, the only powder tested being Varget. I've been able to get sub-MOA 5-shot groups, with the best hovering around 0.75 MOA. Load testing is ongoing, but I'm still happy with the precision I'm getting, and if I don't beat 0.75 MOA this week experimenting with different powders and OALs, I'll happily deer hunt this season with my existing load of 40.5 gr Varget behind the 145BD. 

It's a great little rifle IMO!



I thought you'd go for a more interesting caliber, like 7mm SAW...

Either way, a a lightweight hunting rifle, is it a better option than the Kimber you have?

ILya

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Posted By: nralifer
Date Posted: November/19/2017 at 20:33
Ted, agree completely with you about barrel twists.  Also magazine internal length is also a consideration with long ogive bullets. They require longer overall length. Kimber short action has also a short magazine making it difficult to use long ogive bullets. 

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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: November/19/2017 at 21:02
Is it a longer action? Or a longer magazine box?

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/20/2017 at 05:11
Longer mag box.

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/20/2017 at 06:02
Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


I thought you'd go for a more interesting caliber, like 7mm SAW...

Either way, a a lightweight hunting rifle, is it a better option than the Kimber you have?

ILya


I went with one of the most interesting calibers in existence! I only had 3 other 7-08s, so why not add a superlight one to the stable? Even if I wanted to stray from perfection, I can’t buy it in chamberings they don’t offer.

This rifle competes in the same league as the Kimber Montana/Mountain Ascent/Subalpine/Adirondack series, but in some ways is a better rifle IMO.

Fieldcraft advantages over Kimber:
- faster barrel twists across the board.
- longer mag box (at least in short action, not sure about LA) so you can load COAL to let bullets touch or come close to lands and still feed from mag.
- Individually bedded actions.
- Uses larger #8 scope mount screws
- Extra mount screw location on front receiver ring, giving you 2 different mount positions should you need for ring spacing.
- Bolt operation maybe a little smoother.


Kimber advantages over Fieldcraft:
- Greater selection of chamberings.
- Digital camo stock finishes offered, if that is your preference
- Has 3 position safety with locked bolt position.
- Greater selection of scope mount offerings, at this time.
- Less expensive.

Kimber is a CRF Mauser-esque claw extractor action, and Barrett action is a push feed, plunger ejection style action. I personally don’t care either way, as both work fine. On a blind mag rifle, I slightly prefer the CRF action when unloading live rounds from the magazine for reasons that are easier to demonstrate than describe.

Both weigh about the same, which is to say SUPER light.
Both have great quality stocks with ergos I like, well finished. Both are carbon fiber construction.
Both have excellent triggers. Trigger is slightly better (lighter) on Barrett out of the box, but both are adjustable.
Both have equally nice balance and handling.

Aside from the Barrett having better (faster) twists and longer mag box, it comes down to personal aesthetic preferences.

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/20/2017 at 06:20
One other thing. Barrett Fieldcraft has a full length bedded barrel and action, which is kinda unusual. Kimber barrrels are floated and somewhat bedded at recoil lug area of receiver. I’ve always preferred to float barrels, but I can’t argue with the way the Fieldcraft shoots. I certainly like the looks of the perfect stock to barreled action fit on the Barrett, and the bedding is flawlessly done.

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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: November/20/2017 at 11:05
That's interesting. I have limited experience with full length bedding, but I wonder if POI will shift with sling tension (I think I am the only person in the world who still uses shooting slings).

ILya

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: November/20/2017 at 14:19
I don’t think it would, but don’t know for sure yet. The stock they use is extremely stiff despite its light weight, being made of CF. I’m almost certain that AG Composites supplies the Fieldcraft stock. It looks to be the same or very similar to their “Carbon All Terrain” stock.

One other thing, and this is just a hunch with no proof to back it up, only anecdotal evidence...but I would bet the average Barrett Fieldcraft will outshoot the average Kimber. Again, I have no way of proving one way or the other, I’ve just noted what appears to be a higher % of Kimber owners having issues getting their rifles to shoot well and so far, I’ve not heard any negative reports on the Fieldcraft from owners. I’m sure the fact there’s a gazillion times more Kimbers out there than the brand new, comparatively expensive Fieldcraft has a lot to do with this apparent disparity. That fact aside, if the very nicely done bedding of each individual action to its stock is any indication of Barrett’s attention to details overall, I would tend to have more faith in their QC. You can tell each gun was indeed individually bedded rather than bedded to a “slave” action, given the bottom of the action has the serial number engraved, which is reflected in the bedding. I’ve had good luck getting both to shoot way better than a rifle that light has a right to shoot, so I can’t cuss either in the precision dept. It’s just the little details of the Fieldcraft like correct twists across the caliber spectrum, extra room in the mag box, and some of the prettiest, cleanest bedding I’ve ever seen tells me this rifle was created by folks that actually shoot and know what’s most important to savvy shooters looking for a solid hardcore hunting rifle.

My take anyway. Opinions vary.

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