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Topic: Scopes for Rifles
Posted By: hidoa
Subject: Scopes for Rifles
Date Posted: August/09/2015 at 17:29
I have three rifles, i am looking at putting optics on them.

LMT AR15 - 16" Barrel

LMT AR10 MWS 308 - 18" Barrel

Desert Tactical SRS - 338 Lapua - 26" Barrel.

What optics should I put on them?



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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: August/09/2015 at 17:56
Budget? Applications/Distances? 

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Posted By: hidoa
Date Posted: August/09/2015 at 20:45
$5K for all three scopes.
Distances would be
AR15 - Short to Medium
AR10 - Short to Long
SRS 338 - Medium to Long


Posted By: stork23raz
Date Posted: August/11/2015 at 11:20
Ar15 - http://swfa.com/Aimpoint-Micro-H-1-Red-Dot-Sight-Kit-P85882.aspx - http://swfa.com/Aimpoint-Micro-H-1-Red-Dot-Sight-Kit-P85882.aspx
 
MWS- http://swfa.com/Razor-HD-Gen-II-C9671.aspx - http://swfa.com/Razor-HD-Gen-II-C9671.aspx
        these would be  over budget so you'd have to select another optic one one of the other two
      -  http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-85x24-Elite-Tactical-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P79341.aspx - http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-85x24-Elite-Tactical-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P79341.aspx
      - http://swfa.com/US-Optics-18-10x37-MR-10-30mm-Riflescope-P74712.aspx - http://swfa.com/US-Optics-18-10x37-MR-10-30mm-Riflescope-P74712.aspx  
 
SRS - http://swfa.com/Vortex-45-27x56-Razor-HD-Gen-II-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P67729.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-45-27x56-Razor-HD-Gen-II-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P67729.aspx  


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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: August/11/2015 at 11:47
This is an interesting question because it is not clear which one is the most important and it is also not clear which constitutes medium range for you.

When I was going through this exact decision process, I decided that on a lightweight AR-15 I have I want to have some magnification available.  I practice with this gun and routinely shoot out to a few hundred yards.

I ended up putting Elcan Spectre OS 4x on it with 45 deg offset iron sight for close range.  I found that to be the fastest combination for me.  Another option would be to have a secondary red dot, which also worked well.  This is my SHTF gun, so I wasn't going to compromise on this one.  This whole sighting system can be had for $1500 to $1800.

With the AR-10, my engagement range is not all that much longer, so a similar combination would also work.  In a perfect world, I would put Minox ZP8 1-8x24 on it, but that is outside my budget and likely yours as well.

What I did was sort of a "poor man's 1x/10x": I took a SWFA 10x42HD riflescope and mounted a Meopta Meosight III red dot on it at a 45 deg angle via a TPS CORA ring.  That combination runs right around $1200, I think.

That having been said, a friend of mine just bought a LMT MWS in 308 and since he does not have a 1x requirement, I put a Burris XTR II 2-10x42 on it.  It is a very nice scope for about $1k and I am frankly a little surprised by how good it is for the money both in terms of the features and their execution.

Either way, that leaves you with about $2k for a long range scope.

Oddly enough,  my primary long range rifle is a first gen DTA SRS with a 338LM barrel.  This rifle has seen just about every scope mounted on it.  At the moment, I have a first gen Steiner Military 4-16x50 on it and it is a good match.  That having been said,  if you plan to do ELR or something along those lines, a 5-25x56 or similar is not a bad idea.  I would take a very close look at Steiner T5Xi 5-25x56.  The Steiner T5Xi had a bit of a rough start, but it looks like they have worked out their issues.  The one I am looking at is very good.

If you can stretch your budget for this scope a little, for around $2500 Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27x56 is very good.
 
If you are looking for the best bang for the buck, the first Gen Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 went down in price since the Gen 2 came out and can be had for $1500 to $1700.  That is an excellent deal on an excellent scope.

ILya


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: August/11/2015 at 14:28
As Stork already mentioned, an Aimpoint Micro is an awesome optic for 10 feet out to 300 yards. 
Along with the fine suggestions by The Dark Lord, of course.  


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: August/11/2015 at 16:31
I woudl put a 1-4x or 1-6x on the AR-15.  The Trijicon accupoint and SWFA SS are pretty nice. 


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