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Forum Name: Varmint Scopes
Forum Description: Critter gittin' scopes
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Printed Date: December/17/2017 at 13:42


Topic: Vortex or Weaver
Posted By: darb
Subject: Vortex or Weaver
Date Posted: March/05/2015 at 23:19
  Vortex Viper   6.5x20x44      Weaver super slam euro 4x20x50   What are your opinions  for coyote hunting?   It is going on a 22-250.  100yd to 600yds

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darb



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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: March/05/2015 at 23:48
Both will be over powered for your stated purpose. Coyotes are quick and you will be better off with something in the 2-10 range, like the Viper 2.5-10X44 HS 30mm. Coyote can sneak in close, The 5X on the low end will be too much for the fast close shots. The Vortex does a better job standing behind the warranty (if it is needed) than Weaver.


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Posted By: darb
Date Posted: March/06/2015 at 09:23
    I know I would sacrifice at closer shots but with  the extra magnification  it may help on those longer shots with my older eyes. Thanks for the reply

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darb


Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: March/06/2015 at 13:49
My eyes are still working because of surgery on each. They are far from perfect but better than before the cataracts. I have found my accuracy is improved by reducing the magnification and putting the price difference into better quality glass. I wasted money chasing the same issues as you. More magnification is not the best answer.


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Folks ain't got a sense of humor no more. They don't laugh they just get sore.

Need to follow the rules. Just hard to determine which set of rules to follow
Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: darb
Date Posted: March/06/2015 at 14:05
I agree with that, but I have a 450.00 budget and am just trying to get the best glass for not more than that amount.

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darb


Posted By: tejas
Date Posted: March/22/2015 at 17:45
When I coyote hunt, which I do a lot of, I use either a shotgun with an aimpoint-no magnification, or an AR-15 with a Leupold VX-R 2-7X33 with an illuminated #4. In South and West Texas Ive had chances to make long shots, but by the time I calculated bullet drop, it wasn't needed, they had already closed the distance. If you hide good and play the wind, you hardly ever NEED to take a long shot, but I can see the attraction in doing so. If you want to use them for long range target practice, get the scope you like. If you want to be productive, get something with a bold reticle and a wide field of view, the lighter the better.


Posted By: darb
Date Posted: March/22/2015 at 17:58
   We have low rolling hills, treeless with some low lying brush. Stalking is not much of an option. Going to have to call them in.

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darb


Posted By: tejas
Date Posted: March/22/2015 at 20:25
Originally posted by darb darb wrote:

   We have low rolling hills, treeless with some low lying brush. Stalking is not much of an option. Going to have to call them in.


I had assumed you were calling them. You'd have to be an Indian to sneak up on a coyote.


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: April/10/2015 at 13:26
I think those are way too much magnification.  I also think an illuminated reticle is helpful.  I have a 1-4 Trijicon on my .223.   There is a used 3-9 on samplelist.
SPL21555 http://www.samplelist.com/Trijicon-3-9x40-Accu-Point-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-C-P82124.aspx - Trijicon 3-9x40 Accu-Point Rifle Scope DEMO-C
http://www.samplelist.com/Assets/ProductImages/spl21555.jpg">Click to view TR201G, Matte, Green Triangle
$599.95
If you really want more top end magnification think about a 4-16 but really a 2-7 is plenty for most coyote hunting and the bottom end matters more than the top end because sometimes you call coyotes and get other predators.
http://swfa.com/Sightron-4-16x42-SII-Big-Sky-Riflescope-P55331.aspx">Sightron 4-16x42 SII Big Sky Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/siib41642hhr-rt_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Sightron-4-16x42-SII-Big-Sky-Riflescope-P55331.aspx - Sightron 4-16x42 SII Big Sky Riflescope
Stock # - SIIB41642HHR
  • Matte
  • HHR
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • ExacTrack
  • All Weather Construction
  • ZACT-7 Revcoat Multi-Coating
  • Lifetime Warranty
$647.95



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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
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Texas Ranger


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: April/10/2015 at 13:37
With the exception of the Classic Rimfire series Weavers, I would pick any equivalent Vortex over a Weaver counterpart.

Vortex has the same or better quality scopes within the same price point, while providing a MUCH superior warranty and customer service. On top of that, Vortex doesn't change ownership as often as the weather changes like Weaver has.

I also echo the consensus on power range. I coyote & general predator hunt a fair amount, and I've never needed more than 10X for shots well past 400 yds, and most often, they are much closer and my scope is set at 4X or 6X. I promise you don't need as much magnification as you think, and you will get better optics for the same money if you drop down in magnification.

But, to each his own.


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Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.



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