20 in barrel for 1000 yards??
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Topic: 20 in barrel for 1000 yards??
Posted By: bigpapa4045
Subject: 20 in barrel for 1000 yards??
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 00:50
Hey there everyone...I haven't been on here In a few years but imnlookng to start another project and I'm a new coming to the subject. Im looking to build a long range rifle. 1000 yard gun. I'm either going to go with a Remington or savage. Deff going to be a .308. My question is this will a 20 inch barrel get me to my goal or should I be looking for a 24 or 26 in barrel. I'm looking to stay under 1500 dollars with gun and optics. Hope to here back soon
Thanks guys
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 06:41
Howdy stranger!
Sounds like a nice fun project. 1000yds huh. Dead set on .308? .338 seems to be the current goto caliber for LR with the ability to go hunting... 308 will definitely do it but the balistic arc is pretty bad out there and not very forgiving...
AS far as the barrel.... I'm thinking 20" would be starving the load a bit for really reaching out there.
Good luck with your project. I'm sure some of the others will chime in shortly!
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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 07:41
Just FYI... interesting reading...
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/ - http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/
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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 07:53
Why are you dead set on a .308, my friend?
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 08:02
Quite interesting read!!!! Thanks for the link, Dan!
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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 08:22
I have a 19" in .308 and habe shot it to 1200 yards and made consistant hits on steel at that distance. Obviously not the best caliber or barrel length for that distance, but it works.
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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 08:59
First, welcome back.
Next, why set on 308? If I were looking to build something for long range target, it'd be a 6mm or 6.5mm gun, bullet selection is great, recoil is considerably less than 308, and they buck the wind better than almost anything you'd launch from a 20" 308.
If the objective is getting a bullet accurately to 1000 yards, 20" is fine, actually a little shorter can work too, especially if you hand load. Be aware that, at 1000 yards with a 20" tube, the bullet gets there with not much ass.
On the longer tube, it will give you more velocity and more options; but it will be longer.
Why the 20"? Ease of moving around, smaller rifle case, coolness? Just curious.
I have a 20" 308 Remmy, it stays in the safe now more than it once did, the 243 goes the range in its place, just easier to shoot well.
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Posted By: bigpapa4045
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 09:16
My reasoning for the .308 is ammo avalibility. I don't have the room to reload. How's the ammo supply on 6.5 and how's the cost?
Thanks guys.
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Posted By: bigpapa4045
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 09:18
The reason for the 20 inch. Is it seems like a lot of rifles now are coming with it from savage and Remington. I'm not against any length just wanted to make sure if I did get a 20 inch it would do it
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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 09:30
Hornady makes match quality ammo for the 6.5 creedmore that is very affordable. If you are not going to hand load, that caliber would be a good one to consider. Very similar trajectory to the 300 WM, but considerably less recoil. If it is solely for long range targets, it makes more sense to not have to deal with the recoil.
When I had my custom .308 built. I seriously considered a 6.5 caliber. But I stuck with the .308 because of all the money I had spent on .308 specific reloading equipment. I still kinda wish I would have done different. But now it is what it is.
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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 09:36
6.5 creedmore has readily available ammo. Nothing will be as available as 308 and 30-06, but a little planning goes a long way. Price-wise, 6.5CM is not bad, usually a few dollars/box less than comparable 308.
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 10:05
supertool73 wrote:
I have a 19" in .308 and habe shot it to 1200 yards and made consistant hits on steel at that distance. Obviously not the best caliber or barrel length for that distance, but it works. |
Okay but your a better shot with your weak eye then most are with their domainant eye!
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Posted By: Sgt. D
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 10:07
Everybody pretty much covered it. You may be surprised to find that there are folk out there shootin 1K with 14" pistols. Kinda frustrated me when I saw it. Here I am building these top end rifles to shoot 1K+ and these guys are doing it with pistols..............? Oh well! That's great for them, just proves that 1K ain't as challenging as most think. But it has proven helpful to know cause now getting these rifles tuned in is actually easier. But as with most things there are always trade offs. You build a rifle with a 28" heavy/varmint barrel to achieve higher velocity, (slightly) lower recoil and they tend to heat up alittle slower (dependin on caliber). And harmonics come into play based on barrel length and diameter. About half the guys I compete with shootin 1K, shoot 308's and win about half the matches. They do however generally have 26'+ barrels. Because of that I have a growin respect for 308. I still shoot 300wm and 7mm wsm myself but I do have a pet project 308 in the works so at some point I will be testin 308 performance. To your questions. With a 1500 budget try to keep the rifle 500.00 or less and put the rest toward the scope. That means you will probably be lookin used on both but, you can score some good pieces just the same. You can get into a new Savage under 500.00 but, I am leery of the new Remington's. You see a good review now and then but mostly not so. A older Remington would have to be considered and then hope it hasn't been abused. Something else you have to consider is both will likely come with base stocks and even if you bed and free float you still have a base stock. I tried to get by in a pinch with a Base Remington stock for a comp. and got away with it on the first match but, the next match I was completely out because the stock just wasn't up to par. I suspect that you would have potential of the same with the Savage. So that being said, unless you luck up and find a used Remington with a up-graded stock you will probably need to consider replacing the stock later on after your funds recover. In short, Yes, you can shoot 1K with a 20" 308. But it is not the ideal "rifle" package. And as I'm sure you have seen repeatedly. A good rifle is key but a better scope is absolute. Good luck! Let us know how things are commin along.
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Posted By: bigpapa4045
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 10:26
Thanks a bunch. I will keep u guys informed where I end up. I'll prob have 100 questions along the way I know where to go for anwser s now. Thanks guys
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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 12:02
There's some sound wisdom from The Hive. I don't shoot to 1000 yards, but love the 20" barrel on my .308. There's a few of calibers that can get you out to 1000 yards better, well more efficiently, than the .308 Win. .308 Win does a lot of things pretty well, but is a master of none.....save marketing hype. I'm not a .308 hater either.
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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: January/26/2015 at 13:24
If you choose a remington, take a good look at the 5r milspec, it is a nice rifle and all I have seen are extremely accurate. It comes with decent stock as well.
Make sure whatever you get it has a good stock. Don't skimp on that. If you get a crappy stock that hits the barrel when using your bipod and such it will play all kinds of havoc with your consistency. I have take precision rifle classes with guys using lower end guns that come with crap stocks and they just can't do it well enough. Several of them walked away on day two because of how inconsistent their rifles were. Next class, they would be back with a 5r or something similar and have a great time.
If it were me, I would get a 20" 5r in .308 $900ish, a SWFA SS 10x $300 and talley rings mounts $45.
Or the Savage 10 FCP HS precision or 10FCP Mcmillan around $1000ish and same scope and ring mounts.
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Posted By: Marine24
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 11:42
Timely thread. RC's thread about the Tikka CTR, got me thinking about a lightweight hunting rifle in 260 Rem, which naturally got me to thinking about a dedicated long range paper puncher (don't ask me how my mind works).
I have a Savage 10P 5R in 308 Win in a B&C M40 Medalist stock that might be a good donor rifle to get rebarreled to 260 Rem.
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Posted By: Stevey Ducks
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 13:47
The 20 inch will work just fine with the .308 at 1000. Velocity loss will be about 4% over a 24 inch and that is no big deal. Supersonic is the real big factor. I like 6mm's and 6.5mm's and look at the interaction of G7 form factors (independent of weight) and G7 ballistic coefficients (dependent on weight) to boost velocities and get out to long ranges well (wind & elevation). Get a copy of the Berger manual and read all about it (page 168) At the moment we are shooting targets with 95 grain 6mm Berger VLD's and 130 grain 6.5 Berger VLD's in .243W and 6.5X47L. 140 VLD's in the 6.5-06. The little .22-.250 loaded with the 75 grain VLD is a good performer also. The massive .338 caliber shot out of a .338 Lapua or .338 Edge is formidable and probably is close to ultimate provided the shooter can handle the recoil and cost. The .338 300 grain Berger has the lowest (good) form factor of all their bullets.
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Posted By: Rainman
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 15:11
.308 would not be my first choice for what you want to do. The round is generally transitioning to subsonic or subsonic beyond 900 yards. 6.5 Creedmore ammo is readily available in my area and more pleasant to shoot than a .30 caliber. Having said that I have a 20" Savage Precision Carbine that shoots half MOA and kills steel with ease out to 800 yards so 1,000 to 1,200 yards certainly is not out of the question with .308 but it requires enough practice to understand what happens when the bullet goes subsonic.
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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 17:01
I love my .308s but not for 1000 yard shooting. Tikka would be my choice for a good production barrel rifle on a budget.
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Posted By: Stevey Ducks
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 22:29
I am familiar with shooting the .308 W at 1000 yard matches, I used the 175 grain Sierra. The 175 grain Sierra was designed to remain super sonic at ranges of 1000 yards when fired from all common .308 or 7.62X51 - it does this well enough. Another application for the .308 W is Palma competition - 800, 900 & 1000. The rules say bullets must weigh 155 grains (unless this has been changed). Rifles commonly used have 27-29 inch long barrels, shoot 155 grain match bullets, and a commonly used load is 47 grains of Varget. Velocities approach 2950 fps (hot); this enables velocities to be over 1100 fps or so at 1000. A modest 2650 or so with the 175 should barely be able to stay super sonic sonic at 1000 yards. Needless to say the .308 W is not a hot shot 1000 yard cartridge but it has been used with good results at that range. Wonderful at 600 and great for hunting at up to 400. Upon falling under super sonic or sub sonic, drag increased and bad stuff happens to such a degree it is unmanageable. Of all the 6.5 mm cartridges the 6.5 Creedmore is probably the most all around useful and practical. Brass for my 6.5X47 Lapua costs about $1.20 per piece; this round might be the ultimate 300 meter target round and it gets out to 1000 nicely. The .260 Rem is also good but be prepared to load your own for it.
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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: February/10/2016 at 23:58
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Posted By: Stevey Ducks
Date Posted: February/18/2016 at 14:08
This is why if I need to shoot at something way out there with a .30 I will go for a .300 Win Mag or at least a .30-06. My favorite loads for the .300 Win are the 208 Amax with H1000 and for the '06 the 178 Amax or 175 Sierra with H4350. The little .308 is limited by its small capacity. All things being the same the .308 holds a slight edge in accuracy and less recoil making it a better match cartridge and this was confirmed by replacement of the old '06 by the .308 in the late 60's and early 70's. For specific uses I have any number of both '06's and .308's.
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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/18/2016 at 15:13
If you are a hand loader, I would not dismiss 6.5x47 Lapua so quickly. It take small rifle primers, doesn't stretch much with use, and handles multiple reloads with ease. It also has a LONG neck, which is nice for varying seating depths.
I am very happy with my Tikka thus far (minus the stock, which sucks. New McMillan should be here on Monday, problem solved!), their barrels are usually quite good for factory barrels, the bottom metal is actually metal, and the mag is quite robust. My single complaint thus far is the ease with which the magazine detaches, the mag release is big and easy to engage. And the mags aren't cheap, if you happen to lose one in the woods.
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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: February/18/2016 at 19:15
cheaptrick wrote:
There's some sound wisdom from The Hive. I don't shoot to 1000 yards, but love the 20" barrel on my .308. There's a few of calibers that can get you out to 1000 yards better, well more efficiently, than the .308 Win. .308 Win does a lot of things pretty well, but is a master of none.....save marketing hype. I'm not a .308 hater either. |
No, you just neutered Black Betty!
47.7grs. 2000MR Lapua palma brass 175gr Lapua Scenar bullet, CCI small rifle primers 2.815 COL 2725fps out of a 26 inch barrel. 600, 800, 900 and 1K.
I guess I'm just an ol' fart. Yes, i might get my butt handed to me on match day but I'll let you know Saturday afternoon how they did. they do damn well out to 700. I will take them to 1K tomorrow and shoot for score Saturday. Still can believe a brother would do that to his sexy.
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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: February/18/2016 at 20:24
Steelbenz wrote:
No, you just neutered Black Betty!
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 06:24
now that was a hair cut.....
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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 07:51
Oh I was all over CT when he neutered Black Betty. You just don't screw with perfection.
The .308W will get to 1,000 in a 20" barrel, but as we all agree isn't the best choice for it. Unless your trying to knock someone out of their saddle at 1,000yds, I'd look at something else, like 260Rem., 6.5 creedmore, .243, etc.. Now if you do want to put a hurtin on something at 1,000+ then 300Win Mag, or 338Lap. might be what you want.
There are more than a few budget end precision rifles for around $1,000 give or take a couple of hundred, that are made to get you out to 1,000+ in the .308 case based calibers mentioned above. Oddly, the Ruger Precision comes with 26" barrels for all but the .308 which has a 20" barrel.
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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 08:25
My .308 is 19" and i have thumped steel at 1400.
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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 10:53
My 208 Amax load will reach but you might be proofing your barrel! LOL!
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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 10:55
Yeah, I did that once too:
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Posted By: Stevey Ducks
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 10:59
I have a 6.5X47 Lapua, at first I was concerned about the $120.00 or so for 100 pieces of brass but then upon realizing I could get some 15 plus loadings per piece and the barrel life was about the same as a .308 that concern went away. I might get another one I like it so much - about 3100 fps with 100 Amax for varmints, but don't lose your brass in the weeds. I usually shoot 123 Amax's and some 130 Berger VLD and the low price 140 Barnes Match Burners are a real good deal. I have a (2) .308's, a .30-06, a .300 Win, and (5) 6.5 calibers and that would sort of indicate I am a 6.5 fan. If you don't mind getting beat up a bit the .300 Win works real well at 1000 with 208 grain bullets but the tiny 6.5X47 Lapua using 140's and 130's is lots more comfortable to shoot. Velocities are very close between the two (208's vs 130's). 1000 yard bench rest matches are won by the tiny 6mm Dasher - 105 VLD's @ 2900 + Yes, the .308 will do 1000 yards, especially with 175's, but other calibers will do it better
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Posted By: Rainman
Date Posted: February/19/2016 at 13:23
The Ruger Precision Rifle barrel lengths are 20" for .308, 24" for 6.5 Cr and 26" for .243. It appears many paid large premiums for RPRs on GunBroker.com. I bought early from my LGS for $995 and one or two others here may have gotten them even cheaper. Sub half MOA so far for my 6.5 with Hornady 140 grain ammo and I will soon be testing with 143 grain Hornady ELD-X handloads. Once availability has satisfied demand I think the common street price will be somewhere around the $995 level.
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 09:49
Sgt. D wrote:
You may be surprised to find that there are folk out there shootin 1K with 14" pistols. Kinda frustrated me when I saw it. Here I am building these top end rifles to shoot 1K+ and these guys are doing it with pistols..............? Oh well! That's great for them, just proves that 1K ain't as challenging as most think.
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Not possible with handgun
To the OP I would seriously consider the Creed over the 308 for a build using factory ammo. A 20" Creed will easily get you to a grand.
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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 10:52
ERNIE! Really? Et tu Brutus Et tu? Everybody dissin' the loveable 308? 😡
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 10:55
Just having fun! Oh, the 308 can get there. I actually have 308's in both a specialty pistol and in a F-TR rifle But don't tell anyone I use a 3-O-Late Still would recommend the 6.5 Creed for the OP.
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 12:19
YEP For 1000+ a creed definitely out does a 308....
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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 18:27
Ernie's 308 will shoot. It is colorful too.
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 18:35
TR Rig Will have a Vortex Golden Eagle on it in the future. http://s76.photobucket.com/user/xphunter_2006/media/joypod%20production_zps3qxjcjjg.jpg.html">
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Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: February/22/2016 at 18:46
If and when you want to dump the Sightrons PM me... Does the glare not get to you with that mirror? You might give away your position if that 1" eye ever decides to shoot back!!!
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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 06:23
3_tens wrote:
Ernie's 308 will shoot. It is colorful too.
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That's pretty work right there!
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 08:57
338LAPUASLAP wrote:
If and when you want to dump the Sightrons PM me... Does the glare not get to you with that mirror? You might give away your position if that 1" eye ever decides to shoot back!!! |
Not dumping my S-III's. I like them a lot. I use the high polish to blind my competition
"X" Ring at 1K in F-Class is approx 5" or 1/2 MOA and the 10 Ring is 10" or 1 MOA. Planning to do some local F-Class shooting this year 600 yards. Will be using the Kahles comp scope on my Open rig and the Golden Eagle (Vortex) on my TR rig.
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 08:58
Steelbenz wrote:
3_tens wrote:
Ernie's 308 will shoot. It is colorful too.
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That's pretty work right there! |
You have to be careful when you tell a friend who is also a gunsmith to: "Paint it any color you want."
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 09:05
I was wondering if he was Caucasian....
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Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 09:18
budperm wrote:
I was wondering if he was Caucasian.... |
Started off to be a "NERF" gun, but he didn't have enough of the orange paint, so it ended up being a Zombie NERF 308 XP. Hunted with a guy who was a Florida Gator fan and he went nuts over it.
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 10:07
Yeah that is a nice shade of 'pond scum green' to go with the Gator colors....
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 10:09
There were quite a few houses painted that color green in the Miami ghetto back in the early 70s.....
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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 16:36
Ernie Bishop wrote:
Steelbenz wrote:
3_tens wrote:
Ernie's 308 will shoot. It is colorful too.
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That's pretty work right there! |
You have to be careful when you tell a friend who is also a gunsmith to: "Paint it any color you want."
| At least you got him to paint it. I don't even want mine painted any more. I just want to hold it again. I have been asking for the handgun to be returned since October. Finished or unfinished. The way it is looking, That may never happen.
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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 16:51
Lile walk in with your quick draw outfit on!!!
Throw the glove down!
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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: February/23/2016 at 17:01
Steelbenz wrote:
cheaptrick wrote:
There's some sound wisdom from The Hive. I don't shoot to 1000 yards, but love the 20" barrel on my .308. There's a few of calibers that can get you out to 1000 yards better, well more efficiently, than the .308 Win. .308 Win does a lot of things pretty well, but is a master of none.....save marketing hype. I'm not a .308 hater either. |
No, you just neutered Black Betty!
47.7grs. 2000MR Lapua palma brass 175gr Lapua Scenar bullet, CCI small rifle primers 2.815 COL 2725fps out of a 26 inch barrel. 600, 800, 900 and 1K.
I guess I'm just an ol' fart. Yes, i might get my butt handed to me on match day but I'll let you know Saturday afternoon how they did. they do damn well out to 700. I will take them to 1K tomorrow and shoot for score Saturday. Still can believe a brother would do that to his sexy.
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Late to the bash party, I see.
My Brother, Betty ain't never gonna see shootin past 400 yards or so. Putting her fat ass on that diet was the best thing I ever did. (North of Juarez.)
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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: February/24/2016 at 12:26
Just yankin' your chain mí hermano!
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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: February/24/2016 at 14:38
Yo comprendo todo, mi Amigo.
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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: February/25/2016 at 05:47
cheaptrick wrote:
Yo comprendo todo, mi Amigo. |
Somebody needs to call ICE.
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: February/25/2016 at 07:29
Edurado gets "Frequent Amigo Miles...."
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Posted By: HKtoTikka
Date Posted: March/01/2016 at 08:44
Rainman wrote:
The Ruger Precision Rifle barrel lengths are 20" for .308, 24" for 6.5 Cr and 26" for .243. It appears many paid large premiums for RPRs on GunBroker.com. I bought early from my LGS for $995 and one or two others here may have gotten them even cheaper. Sub half MOA so far for my 6.5 with Hornady 140 grain ammo and I will soon be testing with 143 grain Hornady ELD-X handloads. Once availability has satisfied demand I think the common street price will be somewhere around the $995 level. |
They have definitely spiked up. I regularly (lately almost once a week in the emails) see 6.5 Cr RPRs advertised at $1299.
My next bolt rifle will probably be a 6.5 Cr. Or when I rebarrel the Tikka Sporter I will go to a 6.5 Cr.
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Posted By: Stevey Ducks
Date Posted: March/01/2016 at 13:43
For my use I would go for the 6.5 Creedmore. I have a 6.5X47 Lapua - brass costs $120 or so for 100 provided it is available and to make matters worse no 6.5X47 Lapua brass is available now. If and when it is available will the price increase? I guess that import duties, taxes, and transport fees add to the 6.5X47 Lapua brass costs. I can live with the pricy brass but not with no brass. I have enough 6.5X47 brass on hand for almost 1200 rounds and when that event is past I will either re-barrel or possibly re-chamber. A 6.5 Creedmore reamer appears to be able to clean up a 6.5X47 Lapua chamber. Possibly, Lapua has a huge contract to produce 5.56X45 and 7.62X51 ammo and has sidelined 6.5X47 production for some period. I really don't have a clue why no 6.5X47 brass is available now.
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