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Topic: Remington 700 Recall Info.
Posted By: Chris Farris
Subject: Remington 700 Recall Info.
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 09:34

Website:  http://xmprecall.remington.com -

Hotline: 1-800-243-9700 (prompt #3 then prompt #1) M-F, 5:00 to 9:00 PM EDT



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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 10:53
Sheesh....What is up with Remington triggers lately?? First the Walker design was deemed unsafe, now this? 

After witnessing INNUMERABLE cases of "trigger finger "f" syndrome", ie... finger resting on trigger of a firearm that's in an unsafe firing position. 

I see this inexplicable phenomenon at ranges, gun shops, or wherever gun's are present around people. One can only wonder how many negligent, (I don't subscribe to accidental) discharges would be eliminated. 






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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 10:55
The notice was on the Outdoor Wire this Morning.


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 14:41
This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 

Remington 700 w/Safety

Remington 700 w/Safety

The 510 comes with a safety that blocks the trigger, not the sear, which is a totally new design. No screws, drilling, or tapping required.

The Model 510 will bring a whole new realm of accuracy to your Remington rifle. Each trigger is geometrically identical with tolerances less than .0005”. adjustable from 1.5 to 4 lbs.

Also available:

  • Nickel Plated #512
  • Left Hand #511
  • Left Hand / Nickel Plated #516

How is the Timney Remington 700 trigger different from the factory trigger? There are two major differences. The first is that the Timney trigger is made from a solid block of heat treated steel; there's no 'connector bar' to come loose.

The second difference is that our 510 trigger comes with a trigger blocking safety; that means there's no way to move the trigger when it's on safe, so when you take it off safe the trigger stays in the same position it started from. Remember though, firearms are dangerous; there is only one way to prevent injuries with a firearm Keep It Pointed In A Safe Direction AT ALL TIMES.

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:02
Makes me wonder about my Model 7MS out of the Custom Shop which is about 15 years old. I went on the Timney site and they list a trigger for the 7 but it's with no safe and all of the ones for the 700 say with safe. Any ideas? i also looked for dealers within 200 miles and there were none.


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:10
Give 'em a call, Skip. Surely they make one for your rifle with a safety. 

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:11
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Give 'em a call, Skip. Surely they make one for your rifle with a safety. 

Fully adjustable. Uses safety and bolt-stop from your present trigger. Brings trigger control you never thought possible to your Remington 7. Adjustable from 1 to 4 pounds.


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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:14
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Give 'em a call, Skip. Surely they make one for your rifle with a safety. 

Fully adjustable. Uses safety and bolt-stop from your present trigger. Brings trigger control you never thought possible to your Remington 7. Adjustable from 1 to 4 pounds.


OKEY DOKEY, thanks. Wonder if Ted is looking into one for the 7MS that he purchased recently.


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:26
I bought a new Remy 700 last year and out of habit replaced the trigger soon after with a Timney purchased from SWFA.  Big Smile


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:30
Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

I bought a new Remy 700 last year and out of habit replaced the trigger soon after with a Timney purchased from SWFA.  Big Smile

May we assume it was a major improvement to the factory trigger, Mr. Mike? 


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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:46
I liked the older-style 40X trigger on my LTR, but a Timney is a worthwhile investment.

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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 17:05
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

I bought a new Remy 700 last year and out of habit replaced the trigger soon after with a Timney purchased from SWFA.  Big Smile

May we assume it was a major improvement to the factory trigger, Mr. Mike? 


Not sure I'd say a major improvement over the x-mark pro trigger but I like the feel and performance of the Timney better, their smooth, consistent, and break cleanly.


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 17:15
I've hated the X-Mark Pro trigger since it's conception. That ridiculous "screw" sticking out of the trigger shoe?? What?? 

I too like the older Remington triggers and have them in my stuff.  


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 17:19
Hahaha!!Excellent

Some people really like the x-mark pro but I'm not one.


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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 18:07

I own no rifles with a Remington trigger.  For as good as their standard barrels (usually) are, their triggers are equally bad.


Timney is a decent solution but can rub bottom metal on some stocks.  I am a fan of Rifle Basix triggers.  That said, SWFA has the Timneys on sale at a very nice price, and rub'in is race'in, so...



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Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 00:08
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

  I am a fan of Rifle Basix triggers.  .


+1. I switched my x-mark trigger out to a Rifle Basix before I even shot it.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 00:22

My Etronx has a Remington trigger... but it's electric...  safer than any mechanical trigger made...


What do they put in the Custom Shop rifles?  



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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 04:03
Maybe TTed can answer that I have no idea.


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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 08:55
For the hunting rifles at least, the Custom Shop uses the same X-Mark Pro trigger that they use on standard production 700's, except that they've massaged it a little for a crisper, lighter pull than the standard factory rifles.

Not sure what triggers the CS uses for their "target" rifles. For what they cost, I would rather build a target rifle from the ground up with the action, barrel, trigger, and stock that I want rather than be limited by OEM Remington components.

Remington is in a no-win situation with their triggers. Use a heavy trigger with excess creep: shooters complain. Use a light, crisp trigger: some idiot does something stupid and they get sued... again. The former approach costs them much less. Due to the highly publicized controversy surrounding the original Walker trigger, they now have to over compensate on pull weight and sear engagement to keep from getting sued again, whether they're at fault or not. If they don't and someone else has a negligent discharge, a shrewd attorney only has to point to the previous case to show they were well aware of the "problem" and "should have known better," ergo: negligence. The whole reason they changed to the new XMP trigger is due to legal battles. In all likelihood, all but maybe a tiny minority of existing triggers are perfectly safe, but they have to err on the side of caution to either avoid litigation or so they can demonstrate they were responsive to safety concerns if they ever face legal challenges over their trigger again. The end result of all this.... crappy triggers. Attorneys and good triggers cannot coexist.




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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 09:13
Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Wonder if Ted is looking into one for the 7MS that he purchased recently.


Negative, Ghost Rider.

The trigger on that rifle is decent as-is, but I might one day elect to Timney it.  All other Remington and Remington pattern rifles I own have aftermarket triggers. I like Basix triggers as well as Timney. Jewell is a step above those, but I typically don't see a need to go whole hog into Jewell on a hunting rifle.


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 17:55
I avoid the whole issue by avoiding Remington.  Someone needs to tell Remington that the average height of American Men is no longer 5' 5" like back in the 1830s.....they need to put in some freaking Length of Pull on their stocks!  ( and.... fix that oops problem of guns going off accidentally! )   

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 17:57
.....controlled round feeding would be another good idea for Remington to embrace!   Big Grin





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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 19:11
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Wonder if Ted is looking into one for the 7MS that he purchased recently.


Negative, Ghost Rider.

The trigger on that rifle is decent as-is, but I might one day elect to Timney it.  All other Remington and Remington pattern rifles I own have aftermarket triggers. I like Basix triggers as well as Timney. Jewell is a step above those, but I typically don't see a need to go whole hog into Jewell on a hunting rifle.



My hunting partner has a Jewell trigger on his 700 .300 Ultra Mag.

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/15/2014 at 20:50
....he must be 5'3" tall.....       

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Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: April/18/2014 at 21:27
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 



I'd as soon go with a Jewell trigger, thank you very much.


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: April/18/2014 at 23:17
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

I too like the older Remington triggers and have them in my stuff.  


My grandfather's old Remy is the only m700 where I didn't upgrade the trigger, there is a difference.


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: April/18/2014 at 23:18
Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 



I'd as soon go with a Jewell trigger, thank you very much.


Are you a benchrest shooter Alan?


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Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: April/19/2014 at 00:00
Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 



I'd as soon go with a Jewell trigger, thank you very much.


Are you a benchrest shooter Alan?
No, but I have actually seen a real bench before.  :)

Maybe 35 years ago, a shooter who I respect very much educated me about Timney and Jewell triggers and I've never explored any different viewpoints. His word worked for me, back then and stuck like a cocklebur. I'm sure there are several viable trigger options out there and I have no reason to be popping off about Timney triggers from personal experience, since I have none.

I checked Remy website and my sole M700 doesn't need a trigger rpl, but Remington said I could have 20% off a website purchase as a consolation prize.


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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: April/19/2014 at 08:46
Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 



I'd as soon go with a Jewell trigger, thank you very much.


Are you a benchrest shooter Alan?
No, but I have actually seen a real bench before.  :)

Maybe 35 years ago, a shooter who I respect very much educated me about Timney and Jewell triggers and I've never explored any different viewpoints. His word worked for me, back then and stuck like a cocklebur. I'm sure there are several viable trigger options out there and I have no reason to be popping off about Timney triggers from personal experience, since I have none.

I checked Remy website and my sole M700 doesn't need a trigger rpl, but Remington said I could have 20% off a website purchase as a consolation prize.

Me too, my boys 7-08's didnt need it either.


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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 09:54
I still need to check ours!

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 12:57
I had a Remington 722 once that had a fine hunting trigger....it was a 300 Savage so my face creeping up on the bolt shroud wasn't much of an issue....

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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 14:30
I'm gonna own a 300 Savage in a bolt gun some day!

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 14:39
It will be an old one Tip.


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 14:54
Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

This is a great time to replace the Remington factory trigger with a Timney. Don't send it back to Big Green, just to get an equally crappy trigger back from them. 

Replace!! 



I'd as soon go with a Jewell trigger, thank you very much.

Sure, why not? 


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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 15:23
might have them Hill Country boys build me one!  although.. the "right" old one would work too! Wink

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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 16:17
Well the Hill Country build would be a bit more than an old one but I'm sure a whole lot prettier. Either way I'm sure you'd like it.


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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 17:18
Get a 308 and rebarrel....  

I got lucky and found a Remington 722B De Luxe gathering dust in a gun store in Hutchinson, Kansas years ago.  98% condition.  Discontinued in 1955.  It had never had a scope mounted on it!  24 inch barrel.  I traded for it.  I put a Redfield 3X9 Compact scope on it!  

Freaking nice!!  Big Grin
 
[ unfortunately, it was a victim of the infamous divorce!! ]   Shocked


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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: April/20/2014 at 19:21
Well, my sons PSS is affected by the recall, they offered me 40%  Wink Yeah, I'm thinking a rifle basix trigger. their nice too!

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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: April/21/2014 at 14:52

I thought of that Ed... but wasn't sure about the bolt face... are those the same?



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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: April/21/2014 at 17:23
I thought the case rims were identical.  I have seen zillions of 300 Savages rechambered for 308.  My Sierra Book is lost somewhere in my big mess and I can't lay my hands on it right now....but I think they are the same dimensions.  







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Posted By: 6\250\40
Date Posted: April/22/2014 at 05:50
  .300 Savage is .473 bolt face, same as .308, 30.06, etc.  Jewell gets my vote. Expensive, but worth it, IMHO.

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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: April/22/2014 at 15:36
sweet.. and thanks

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: April/22/2014 at 16:00
Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

Someone needs to tell Remington that the average height of American Men is no longer 5' 5" like back in the 1830s.....they need to put in some freaking Length of Pull on their stocks!   


Hey, Ed, how tall are you?

Remington uses 13.5" L.O.P. which is essentially the standard LOP on factory rifles in the US. Ruger and Savage both use the same LOP. Browning typically uses 13.625" and Winchester typically uses 13.75", so not a whole lot of difference there. McMillan standardizes on 14" for their stocks. European rifles have a bit longer LOP of 14" - 14.5".


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Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/23/2014 at 04:33
I guess Ed can scratch his knees without bending over.

Big Grin


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