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Topic: Newbie
Posted By: TexasRaider
Subject: Newbie
Date Posted: February/09/2014 at 22:26
Hello all.

I am new to the site, found it while searching for scope info via Google.  I have read a lot of threads in here the past couple of days, but really don't think I am any better off than I was beforehand.  I am scope shopping but it seems that (like most everything) there are tons of opinions, which is fine, but it is also so dependent on each and every scenario.  I don't like posting in forums, asking questions and people getting upset because that was answered 9 months ago in another thread I missed!  So I want to describe my specific scenario and see what you all think.  

I currently have three .223 AR's, a Daniel Defense V4, Ruger SR-556 and a Sig 516 FDE.  I want to make one a "varmint" gun.  I currently have 2 EOTech setups.  One is a 516 (I believe) mounted and the other is a kit with the magnifier that came on the Ruger when I purchased it.  I can get exact model numbers if needed.  

We are soon going to build out on land we have and the "neighbors" say there are tons of coyotes out there.  We have even seen a bobcat on the land recently.  The area where I will be shooting is clear, no brush, trees, etc.  We even keep the coastal cut down most of the time.  As for distances, I would guess the average shots will be around the 100 yard range (possibly closer), but depending on scenario, could get to about 300 yards, but highly unlikely.  I would want to have something I could use in about every lighting conditions.  I know when we start discussing night vision it can REALLY get over my head, and way out of my budget.  But maybe something with that as an option?  Again, I started looking and it just seems to keep growing as far as the options available.

I hope this helps but please don't hesitate to ask any questions that may assist me in finding what I need.  As for a budget, well, I would like to stay down in the $6-800 range, but might could expand up close to $1000.  I like quality, but I don't want to pay for something I don't need.  

Thank you all so much in advance for any info you can share with me!





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Posted By: Skylar McMahon
Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 09:58
Welcome to OpticsTalk! Howdy
 
Have you decided which one of you M4's you would like to utilize as the go to varmint rifle?
Personally out of the three that you have, I would use the Ruger. All three are great, but the other two, I would use more for tactical purposes or competition.
 
Honestly, at with that distance, I would keep a shotgun handy. Typically what I have found when predator hunting and using calls, if you have a pack of coyotes or a couple loaners is that with electronic calls and a stimulated distressed feather they will come in cautiously trying to wind you, but they will be running.
 
Although, in regards to optics out to 300 yards, if your eyes are still sharp, I would suggest something like 1-6 or potentially a 3-9.
 
The 3-9 is a great general purpose magnification for hunting purposes and for the most part has great low light ability.
 
I mentioned the 1-6, because on 1X, you FOV is very wide and that will supply you with room to track and lead your targets when needed for the closer engagements.
 
Here's a list of some options that I would entertain personally.
 
http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-35-10x50-Tactical-Riflescope-P66736.aspx">Blackhawk 3.5-10x50 Tactical Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/71ts02bk-rt_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-35-10x50-Tactical-Riflescope-P66736.aspx -
  • 1/10 MIL Target Knobs
  • $239.95
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl01$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add Blackhawk 3.5-10x50 Tactical Riflescope to Cart
    http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-35-10x50-Tactical-Riflescope-P66736.aspx - http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-3-9x40-Tactical-Riflescope-P66735.aspx">Blackhawk 3-9x40 Tactical Riflescope
    http://swfa.com/images/71ts01bk-rt_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-3-9x40-Tactical-Riflescope-P66735.aspx -
  • 1/10 MIL Target Knobs
  • $219.95
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl02$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add Blackhawk 3-9x40 Tactical Riflescope to Cart
    http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-3-9x40-Tactical-Riflescope-P66735.aspx -
    http://swfa.com/Burris-1-4x24-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45511.aspx">Burris 1-4x24 Xtreme Tactical  XTR 30mm Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/bur201905-rt_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Burris-1-4x24-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45511.aspx - Add Burris 1-4x24 Xtreme Tactical  XTR 30mm Rifle Scope to Cart
    http://swfa.com/Burris-1-4x24-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45511.aspx -
    http://swfa.com/Burris-15-6x40-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P48170.aspx">Burris 1.5-6x40 Xtreme Tactical XTR 30mm Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/bur201909-rt_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Burris-15-6x40-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P48170.aspx -
    $739.95
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl02$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add Burris 1.5-6x40 Xtreme Tactical XTR 30mm Rifle Scope to Cart
    http://swfa.com/Burris-15-6x40-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P48170.aspx -



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    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 11:47
    I would suggest you get this:

    http://swfa.com/Meopta-3-12x56-MeoStar-R1-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P7996.aspx

    or this:
    http://swfa.com/Trijicon-25-10x56-Accu-Point-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P12879.aspx

    For your application, where you will mostly have moderate distances to work with, but the target is comparatively small and the lighting is likely to be pretty low, dedicated low light scopes are a good idea.

    ILya


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    Posted By: Skylar McMahon
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 11:48
    I forgot about that MeoStar! Nice pick Ilya.

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    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:16
    Originally posted by Skylar McMahon Skylar McMahon wrote:

    I forgot about that MeoStar! Nice pick Ilya.

    That Meostar is practically my default recommendation for a low light scope at around $1k (unless it goes onto a rifle with a lot of recoil).

    ILya


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    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:30
    WOW!

    Thanks for the input for sure.  And thanks for the recommendation on which gun to use.  That was what I was considering, as I wanted to go more tactical with the other two as you suggested.  

    I saw the thread with the new Flir R series and am very intrigued.  To get a thermal scope for around $3500 would be cool and a nice setup to have in the future!


    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:34
    And would you highly recommend an illuminated reticle or what is opinion there?


    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:49
    I guess I should have read the bottom of the first post.  Reticle I am a bit flexible on.  I have typically used a Duplex, but I have a scope on a .308 that has the BDC but I am not a huge fan, primarily because when I used that one the circle seems too big.  The XTR on the Burris would be ok since the center dot seems very small and the crosshairs are there for reference.

    When looking at the Trijicon the mini-dot or standard dot crosshairs look good to me.  I don't know, maybe I just like to have the crosshairs for whatever personal reason, when targeting animals.




    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:54
    Originally posted by TexasRaider TexasRaider wrote:

    And would you highly recommend an illuminated reticle or what is opinion there?

     
    A properly executed illuminated reticle is a very good idea.

    ILya


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    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 12:57
    Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

    Originally posted by TexasRaider TexasRaider wrote:

    And would you highly recommend an illuminated reticle or what is opinion there?

     
    A properly executed illuminated reticle is a very good idea.

    ILya

    You underline and emphasize "properly executed" could you elaborate?  Other than the holographic scopes, I am not educated on these illuminated reticles!


    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 13:24
    Too many reticle out there are too bright for low light application and have other effects like light scatterring, ghosting, etc.

    Meopta and Trijicon both do the illumination very well.

    ILya


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    Posted By: Skylar McMahon
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 13:27
    I would add Swarovski and Zeiss as well. But the prices associated with them are much more expensive.

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    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 14:20
    Originally posted by Skylar McMahon Skylar McMahon wrote:

    I would add Swarovski and Zeiss as well. But the prices associated with them are much more expensive.

    Most higher end companies make high quality reticle illumination systems (or buy them from the same company as is the case with quite a few of them).

    In the sub-$1k market, you have to be a bit more careful, though.

    ILya


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    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 15:26
    So I like the two options koshkin put up there with the Meopta and Trijicon.  Now to decide.  The Trijicon is about $200 cheaper, and has the always on illumination with no batteries which I love.  The Meopta has the 7 different levels of illumination which is nice, but having batteries and all that I just don't know if I want to deal with that.  I also like that Trijicon has a lot of options in regards to reticle options.  Both appear to be very solid, reliable options...

    ARGH!!!


    Posted By: Skylar McMahon
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 15:33
    Trijicon makes a great scope.

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    Posted By: supertool73
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 16:38
    The Leupold VX-R ill reticles are excellent as well.  Would save you a good amount of change over the other two choices.  I am a huge fan of Trijicon and Meopta and own several of their products, but I the VX-R is a great lower priced choice and doesn't give up much.   But if you are okay with spending more Meopta or Trijicon would be great.  I would pick Trijicon as you never have to worry about batteries or turning them on.  Plus it is cheaper.  The green color is best IMO, I have had all three and would pick green every time. 


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    Posted By: Skylar McMahon
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 17:01
    Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

    The Leupold VX-R ill reticles are excellent as well.  Would save you a good amount of change over the other two choices.  I am a huge fan of Trijicon and Meopta and own several of their products, but I the VX-R is a great lower priced choice and doesn't give up much.   But if you are okay with spending more Meopta or Trijicon would be great.  I would pick Trijicon as you never have to worry about batteries or turning them on.  Plus it is cheaper.  The green color is best IMO, I have had all three and would pick green every time. 
     
    I'm about to give one of those a try in a few weeks.


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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 17:12
    I have to laugh...  He's down to two in the blink of an eye out of hundreds and is lamenting not being able to pull the trigger.  sounds like its the Trijicon

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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/11/2014 at 17:35
    Oh and welcome aboard! Howdyhave fun!

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    Posted By: stickbow46
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 06:50

    If you should go with the Trijicon.I once asked Trijicon what was the best color to hunt with & I was told the Green!Just for your edification.



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    Posted By: Scrumbag
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 07:30

    Welcome Texas Raider!I have a slightly different take on this (not saying anyone above is wrong, far from it, just my views) and they would be this.

     
    I recently got a walking varmint set up put together, ableit a bolt action but with a view mainly to knocking over foxes at sensible ranges.
     
    My choice would be a 2-7 from a decent make (maybe a Leupold VX-3) or if you can find one, a Minox 1.5-8x32 (They seem to have been discontinued but still seeing them advertised).
     
    My reasoning being: at low mags the close in stuff will still be a doddle. If you need more, you have. Also, the lighter, smaller scope will not unbalance the rifle and keep weight down.
     
    Whatever you choose, enjoy your shooting.
     
    ATB,
     
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    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 12:06
    Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

    I have to laugh...  He's down to two in the blink of an eye out of hundreds and is lamenting not being able to pull the trigger.  sounds like its the Trijicon

    It wasn't really a blink of an eye.  Like I said, I read a LOT over the weekend and came here for more input on my specific scenario.  A large majority have confirmed that (for what I am looking for) a lighted reticle with the most light input for low light shooting was a must.  I narrowed it down as such, eliminating all the ones not fitting into this criteria.  I also wanted the flexibility of a wide range of shooting so the zoom needed to fit within the range as well.  I then researched based on price and brand reputation.  That is how I came with these two that seem to fit what I want/need.  Am I wrong with my that I have narrowed it down to?  I would think probably not.  Are there more out there that might work for me as well?  I am sure there are.  

    This is a lot like anything else, tons of opinions and obviously a lot more wrong choices to be made than right, but still a ton that all could be considered "not a bad choice" the way I see it.

    I appreciate everyone's input, I really do, as I have researched them all.  And I am glad several chimed in about the GREEN as that would have been a question I would ask for sure!

    Thanks again everyone!!!


    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 12:11
    Originally posted by TexasRaider TexasRaider wrote:

    Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

    I have to laugh...  He's down to two in the blink of an eye out of hundreds and is lamenting not being able to pull the trigger.  sounds like its the Trijicon

    It wasn't really a blink of an eye.  Like I said, I read a LOT over the weekend and came here for more input on my specific scenario.  A large majority have confirmed that (for what I am looking for) a lighted reticle with the most light input for low light shooting was a must.  I narrowed it down as such, eliminating all the ones not fitting into this criteria.  I also wanted the flexibility of a wide range of shooting so the zoom needed to fit within the range as well.  I then researched based on price and brand reputation.  That is how I came with these two that seem to fit what I want/need.  Am I wrong with my that I have narrowed it down to?  I would think probably not.  Are there more out there that might work for me as well?  I am sure there are.  

    This is a lot like anything else, tons of opinions and obviously a lot more wrong choices to be made than right, but still a ton that all could be considered "not a bad choice" the way I see it.

    I appreciate everyone's input, I really do, as I have researched them all.  And I am glad several chimed in about the GREEN as that would have been a question I would ask for sure!

    Thanks again everyone!!!

    Reticle illumination color preference is a very personal choice.

    For example, I do not like green illumination in a scope, especially in low light conditions.

    ILya


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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 12:27
    Easy Tex I wasn't flaming you, I was just amused...  Smile 
     
    You seemingly did do alot of research and came in with a better than usually understanding and list...  You listened to some extremely solid advice and LISTENED!  Cudos to you!  Koshkin by the way is an Optics Engineer that evaluates optics for a living and I might add is extremely objective in his evaluations.  You won't find many that are better and I'm wagering none that are as forth coming and generous with their knowledge.  He will accurately grade the measurable and quantifiable qualities, its just up to you to decide which one pushed your button best... aesthetically.
     
    Have fun while your at it.  There is one here that has probably gone thru  at least 100 scopes since he joined the forum.  Man wouldn't that be the cats wiskers!!!!  Being able to play with and use that many scopes... gotta be one that just calls to you in there somewhere...


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    Posted By: SVT_Tactical
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 12:38
    This is a decent contender to -
    SPL19712 http://www.samplelist.com/IOR-4-14x56-Hunting-30mm-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P67535.aspx - IOR 4-14x56 Hunting 30mm Rifle Scope DEMO-B
    http://www.samplelist.com/Assets/ProductImages/spl19712.jpg">Click to view Matte, Illuminated 4A Dot, 1/4 MOA
    $999.95
     
    Illuminated - check
    Good in low light - check
    Within the $100 budget - check
    Reputable company - check
     


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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/12/2014 at 12:49
     
      Speak of the devil...


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    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 00:12
    Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

    Easy Tex I wasn't flaming you, I was just amused...  Smile 
     
    You seemingly did do alot of research and came in with a better than usually understanding and list...  You listened to some extremely solid advice and LISTENED!  Cudos to you!  Koshkin by the way is an Optics Engineer that evaluates optics for a living and I might add is extremely objective in his evaluations.  You won't find many that are better and I'm wagering none that are as forth coming and generous with their knowledge.  He will accurately grade the measurable and quantifiable qualities, its just up to you to decide which one pushed your button best... aesthetically.
     
    Have fun while your at it.  There is one here that has probably gone thru  at least 100 scopes since he joined the forum.  Man wouldn't that be the cats wiskers!!!!  Being able to play with and use that many scopes... gotta be one that just calls to you in there somewhere...

    Hope I didn't come off as defensive, didn't mean to for sure.  I understand though.  I have been on a lot of different threads for various research purposes.  I know a lot come in totally in the dark.  I will say, for all the threads I have been on, this is one of the nicest for sure.  I have seen WAY too many where someone comes in asking a question and they get blasted saying "click here..." or "search here for answers then come back..."  So I just tried to do what I could before posting.  Again, great knowledge and friendliness in here for sure and I do appreciate ALL the input.

    I will have tons more questions moving forward I am sure, and I am glad I have a place to ask them.


    Posted By: TexasRaider
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 00:49
    Dare I ask about mounts?!?!Shocked




    Posted By: stickbow46
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 06:00
    Give us a price range & the scope you will mount Prices can vary from $40 - $400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    It would also help if you knew if you wanted Steel,aluminium or alloy.


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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 06:37
    Ask away!  Though I personally am not that heavy into ARs, there are several here who eat live and breath them.  I seem to remember Seekins being mentioned several times.  I myself use SWFA SSALTs on both my ARs.
     
    Oh and I thank you on behalf of the OT.  We pride ourselves on being tolerant and patient with the newly interested knowledge seeker.  How else are we going to keep our favorite pastime alive and well?  I agree that several of other sites seem to exhibit way to much snobbery and hostility toward newbies.... Even ones WITH vast knowledge but new to their site will get it...  Private club mentality if you ask me...
     
    From what I'm seeing here, I think you'd make a good addition to the OT.  You obviously look before you leap so rash decisions are unlikely. You are respectful of others opinion and feelings.  You have an obvious thirst for knowledge.  And you have the most important thing... you love guns, shooting and optics.  If you've really perused this site you already know how vast the different optics related interests swing here...  Something for everybody...
     
    I have learned so much here about good optics, guns, reloading, mechanical issues and fixes... the list goes and goes just like my mouth...
     
    Anyway....I'm sure you'll get help with mounts too... However you might want to rephrase that rather open ended inquiry as it could get you buried in data from some of our big brains rather quickly Wink
     
    So look around, ask questions and don't be shy... We've all had our shots, Wink a few of us bark but that's just to cover up their big hearts... and most are happy to share their knowledge.  Hopefully you'll get hooked on the OT like I did... wow it's been 5 yrs already... amazing they haven't hung me yet! Cool


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    Posted By: SVT_Tactical
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 07:54
    This is the one Buds talking about -
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-AR-Tactical-Mounts-C3057.aspx">SWFA SS AR Tactical Mounts
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-AR-Tactical-Mounts-C3057.aspx - SWFA SS AR Tactical Mounts
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SSALT-30mm-Scope-Mount-P58814.aspx">SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm Scope Mount http://swfa.com/SWFA-SSALT-30mm-Scope-Mount-P58814.aspx - SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm Scope Mount
    Stock # - SS30HSSALT
    • Picatinny MIL-STD-1913
    • Matte
    • Comes with 1" Inserts
    $59.95 
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl01$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm Scope Mount to Cart
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SSALT-30mm-Scope-Mount-P58814.aspx - More Details »
     it even has the ability to add caps with rails made into it for a red dot or reflex for close up work -
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Tac-30mm-Picatinny-Ring-Top-W-Top-Rails-P58446.aspx - http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Tac-30mm-Picatinny-Ring-Top-W-Top-Rails-P58446.aspx
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Tac-30mm-Picatinny-Ring-Top-W-Side-Rails-P58445.aspx - http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Tac-30mm-Picatinny-Ring-Top-W-Side-Rails-P58445.aspx
     
    What I woudl recommend -
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx">SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx - SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount
    Stock # - SWFA201300
    • Low
    • Slightly Forward
    $209.95 
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl01$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount to Cart
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx - More Details »  
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P56617.aspx">SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P56617.aspx - SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount
    Stock # - SWFA202300
    • 30mm
    • Low
    • Extended
    $209.95 
    javascript:__doPostBack%28ctl00$wpm$CategoryGrid$ctl04$ProductList$ctl02$Add2Cart$AC,%29">Add SWFA Precision Optic 30mm Mount to Cart
    http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P56617.aspx - More Details »
    These are very solid mounts.  They hold zero well when taken on and off.  Lockup on the rail is good and they allow you to quickly mount and unmount your scope if you so choose. 

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    Posted By: budperm
    Date Posted: February/13/2014 at 08:25
    thanks G  Howdy

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    Posted By: cheaptrick
    Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:08
    Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

    This is a decent contender to -
    SPL19712 http://www.samplelist.com/IOR-4-14x56-Hunting-30mm-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P67535.aspx -
    http://www.samplelist.com/Assets/ProductImages/spl19712.jpg">Click to view Matte, Illuminated 4A Dot, 1/4 MOA
    $999.95
     
    Reputable company - check
     

    Call

    "Hello....Val?" 
    "Sir, did you just call me a liar?"  Whistling


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    If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


    Posted By: cheaptrick
    Date Posted: April/14/2014 at 16:50
    Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

    Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

    This is a decent contender to -
    SPL19712 http://www.samplelist.com/IOR-4-14x56-Hunting-30mm-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P67535.aspx -
    http://www.samplelist.com/Assets/ProductImages/spl19712.jpg">Click to view Matte, Illuminated 4A Dot, 1/4 MOA
    $999.95
     
    Reputable company - check
     

    Call

    "Hello....Val?" 
    "Sir, did you just call me a liar?"  Whistling

    Not like me to hold a grudge....I've moved on.   



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    If at first you don't secede...try..try again.



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