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Topic: Bipods?
Posted By: Trickster
Subject: Bipods?
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 12:52
Hey there.

I'm looking to get a bipod for my rifle, but I need some intel. First, how useful is a bipod? Is it a good investment? Does it help out? (I do understand that everyone has a different opinion and this varies depending on the circumstances.) 

Also, I've been checking out the market and I came to an issue - how much money to spend on a bipod. So, I would like to know, if cheap bipods are any good?

I don't have many to choose from, but they range from around 30 to several hundred dollars.

The bipod would be used for casual shooting and hunting. I would attach it to the belt swivel.

Thanks


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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 14:35
Cheapest i'd recommend is a Harris.  http://swfa.com/Harris-Bipods-C807.aspx">Harris Bipods
http://swfa.com/Harris-Bipods-C807.aspx - Harris Bipods


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Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 14:46
http://swfa.com/Harris-Ultralight-LM-S-Series-Bipod-P3011.aspx - http://swfa.com/Harris-Ultralight-LM-S-Series-Bipod-P3011.aspx

Then get an arm that extends the swivel knob and you will be set. I have a few of these and LOVE them....



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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 15:45
Thanks for the links, guys.

My question has been answered - stay away from cheap crappy bipods.

Another thing to clear up: Non swivel bipods (see example below) force you to rotate the whole rifle, if you're on uneven ground or compensate by extending one leg of the bipod more than the other?

http://swfa.com/Harris-Ultralight-BRM-1A2-Series-Bipod-P1920.aspx - http://swfa.com/Harris-Ultralight-BRM-1A2-Series-Bipod-P1920.aspx



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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 16:05
Get the swivel Harris. I use them a LOT and love 'em, but get the swivel and as BD suggested, get the Pod Lock, or whatever it's called to make life easier.  

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 16:53
Notched legs help as well.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 18:16
Give Versa Pod a look... has pan and tilt (which can be locked), which is quite handy for full range movement without lifting the rifle.  Harris has "swivel, which is OK, but not as useful as a full pan and tilt.  

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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 18:32
Another vote for Harris bipod -s (swivel).  Thunbs Up

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 19:46
Less expensive... more functional...
Less expensive... more functional...


more functional...


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:01
Big Smile

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:08
There is an exception to the expensive bipod rule.
 
I have used a number of great tactical style bipods that I really liked for most shooting, but not as much for hunting.  GG&G, Atlas, and Harris have all been good for me.
 
I use a Rapid Pivot Stoney Point bipod on my hunting rigs.  They are lightweight, inexpensive, and surprisingly effective.  Nothing is easier to attach or detach.


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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:25
Well, the thing is I don't need high end stuff. TBH my backpack does the trick nicely, however a bipod is a more slick solution to say the least Big Smile.

Harris stuff looks tempting, but it is quite expensive... I'll call a local police/military gear dealer tomorrow and ask if they have anything.

I was snooping around a bit and found a Blackhawk bipod for $50 (6-9in.). The weird thing is that I can't find this bipod on Blackhawk's website. Maybe they discontinued it...

Lastly, the budget. I have $75 to spend, however, I am a very patient person (been waiting for my new riflescope for almost 2 months now), so I can wait till my budget expands...



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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:50
I've used all of those and the Sinclair (both tactical and F-class).  I like them all, too.  However, for me, the versa-pod is the most functional of all.  Truthfully, though, I'm more partial to a tripod... it's only limitation is it does not attach (and how would it)... another thing to carry somewhere and keep up with.  There is nothing else I don't like about it.  Absolutely most stable, functional rest I have used for multipositional shooting.  For prone shooting, the Sinclair F-class is by far the best...

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:51
Trickster,
 
Did you look at the Rapid Pivot?  It is well within your budget.


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 20:51
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I've used all of those and the Sinclair (both tactical and F-class).  I like them all, too.  However, for me, the versa-pod is the most functional of all.  Truthfully, though, I'm more partial to a tripod... it's only limitation is it does not attach (and how would it)... another thing to carry somewhere and keep up with.  There is nothing else I don't like about it.  Absolutely most stable, functional rest I have used for multipositional shooting.  For prone shooting, the Sinclair F-class is by far the best...
 
You can also get the Rapid Pivot in a tripod version that attaches and detaches the same way...


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/28/2012 at 21:15
Interesting.  I've never looked at their tripods before.  Several interesting concepts.  

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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 05:29
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Trickster,
 
Did you look at the Rapid Pivot?  It is well within your budget.

I did. Definitely an interesting thing. You simply attach this thing to your swivel? No folding? Also, which hight are you using? 

I'll see what I can find and keep you all posted. Smile


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Posted By: jason miller
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 06:38
If you just want a cheap bipod to try out, Walmart carries one for $40 that isn't the least functional thing I've ever bought.  It isn't fancy and you'll have to adjust the legs individually for any slope of the ground, but the nice thing is that you can adjust the legs to anywhere you want them instead of only in designated slots.  It attaches to the front sling swivel.  Like I said, it's not great but it is cheap and functional if you just want to get a feel for using a bipod.


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 09:00
Originally posted by Trickster Trickster wrote:



Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Trickster,
 

Did you look at the Rapid Pivot?  It is well within your budget.


I did. Definitely an interesting thing. You simply attach this thing to your swivel? No folding? Also, which hight are you using? 

I'll see what I can find and keep you all posted. Smile



Trickster,

I use the prone bipod model. You attach the base to your swivel stud, and then any of the rapid pivot products just pop on and off the base. You can get extra bases for additional rifles. There are no levers or buttons, push on and pop off. I just carry mine in a side opcket of my pack and pop it on when needed.

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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 17:10
Thanks for the info Matt.

I have another question: what height would you recommend? I was messing around with a ruler earlier and from prone I was very comfortable with 6 inches and after my spine deformed a bit, I was able to get comfortable with 9 inches as well. I also managed to get somewhat comfortable sitting on my butt on the floor with 13 inches, however, an extra inch would be great.

So 9 inches is a bit too much for prone and 13 inches not enough for me to sit on my butt and replace my knees with the bipod. 6-9 inches then?


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 17:34
It extends from 10-13," but the rifle sits lower, due to the space between the legs. Additionally, the rubber "yoke" at the pivot allows you to bend and twist the legs as you need to for cant, or to get lower.

I can't see using the prone model to shoot while sitting, unless you have the bipod on something elevated.

It works pretty well.

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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 17:46
I think the same company makes the "steady stix II" which work pretty good too. They're light weight,  collapsible and super quick to set up. My daughter used 'em this year hunting and it seemed to be the ticket.




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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 17:52
I have a "monopod" rest that attaches to my rigger's belt... very stable shooting from a standing position and when not in use it just hangs down off the belt, kind of like a knife.  It has been my "most used" stabilization system in recent years.  Great for stalking...



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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 18:37
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

It extends from 10-13," but the rifle sits lower, due to the space between the legs. Additionally, the rubber "yoke" at the pivot allows you to bend and twist the legs as you need to for cant, or to get lower.

I can't see using the prone model to shoot while sitting, unless you have the bipod on something elevated.

It works pretty well.

As I said, 13 inches is too short for me to be comfortable while sitting - it would need to be higher. On the other hand, 10 inches is a bit too much for prone.

That's why I'm thinking of getting the 6-9 inch model. I'm struggling with 10-13 inches - I can't get comfortable while prone or while sitting, and that's why I think the 6-9 version would be better for me - I could at least use it while prone.

I'll do some more "measurements" and see what's what.

Quote It works pretty well.

What are you referring to?


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 19:00
Trickster,
 
I am sorry I wasn't clear.  the 10-13 model, in actual use, will put you anywhere from around 2" off the ground to around 10" off the ground.  I may post a pic to make it clearer.


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 19:30
Here is the base and bipod:
 
 
Bipod connected and standing:
 
 
Lower:
 
 
Way down low:
 
 
Fully extended:
 
 


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Posted By: mcseal2
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 20:37
I also use the rapid pivot bipods and love them.  I use the sitting/kneeling model alot in my country to get above vegetation.  I find that I can get pretty darn steady kneeling with the bipod a little left of my center by putting my elbow right behind my right knee.  I can ring my 300yd 10" gong reliably that way, it is one of my most used and practiced positions.  I also use the prone model when I can get that low and then use my pack as a rear bag.  For real long steep hunts I picked up a folding shock-cord tripod version also that is lighter and works to sitting height. 
 
One thing I did with mine is to add an extra stud to my rifles just for the bipod mount.  The reviews told of them breaking and letting the rifle fall when it was slung.  I figured I'd avoid this danger and just add an extra stud so the sling didn't have to attach to the bipod mount.


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/29/2012 at 20:39
I use old blue jean pants legs sewed up filled with corn more often than anything else but I do have both styles of Harris bipod.  One can spend a lot of money on a really good bipod, I know I have one made by Accuracy International and boy were they proud of it. I see a lot of shooting sticks for sale in stores but I also see alot of home made shooting sticks in actual use by guys on a hunt not so much on the range. I tend to not like the added weigh on the front of the rifle If I am hunting because Im either moving or in a  stand where I cant use the bipod.  LE use you pretty much have to have one it might be a long wait. I know I would like to own a GG&G bipod but they are not easy to come by and a bit spendy.  Anyway I highly recommed you use the old pants legs from some worn out jeans and make some bean bags out of them.


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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/30/2012 at 06:06
@Matt

Thanks for the pics. Looks very interesting. I'll see if I can find one around here.

@Urimaginaryfrnd

Like I said, my backpack does the trick nicely. I'm just looking for a more elegant solution (I've got $80 and I need something to spend it on Big Smile)


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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: August/30/2012 at 07:43

Sent you a PM



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