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Topic: Hodgdon-CFE.223
Posted By: pyro6999
Subject: Hodgdon-CFE.223
Date Posted: August/17/2012 at 21:46
stay tuned in here, i just bought a pound of this new powder. im gonna try it in my boys 7-08's. i will let you all know what i get soon!!

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"



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Posted By: M7025-06
Date Posted: August/18/2012 at 07:25
Looks interesting.  Keep us posted.  











Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: August/23/2012 at 20:35
Got an AR laying around you could load for, too?

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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: August/25/2012 at 09:24
i wishSad Pacer

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: August/25/2012 at 13:11
Then, how about a .270?





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"Garg'n uair dhuisgear"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: August/25/2012 at 16:06
my brother in law has one, and i do have dies for it.Big Grin

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Clark
Date Posted: September/08/2012 at 12:53
I fired one round in a 260 small magnum primer, and there was a half second delay.

It is like BL-C(2), but even harder to light.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: September/08/2012 at 13:24
Originally posted by Clark Clark wrote:

I fired one round in a 260 small magnum primer, and there was a half second delay.

It is like BL-C(2), but even harder to light.

how do you get a small rifle primer to fit into a large rifle primer pocket??


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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: September/08/2012 at 13:41
crimp really hard... Bucky
 
 
If I remember right, Clark pretty much forges his on path... so probably some wildcat.


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/08/2012 at 16:01
Maybe he is necking-down 308 palma brass.

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Posted By: warboar_21
Date Posted: September/08/2012 at 21:50
I picked up a pound of this today and loaded up some 155gr Sierra match kings for my AR-10.  Will try them out tomorrow.


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/04/2012 at 17:35
Anybody got a SITREP on this powder? 

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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 10:17
Man Ct, I pulled up and printed out all of the data off Hodgen's site, but I don't know what I've  done with it.

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 12:55
Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Man Ct, I pulled up and printed out all of the data off Hodgen's site, but I don't know what I've  done with it.

Was thinking of trying this stuff out with some AR rounds I got prepped. 


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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 12:59
I bought a lb. to try, but I can't find a round-to-it.

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 13:14
Yuck yuck....just stick to vargay...Cool

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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 13:20
Didn't care for Vargay.

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: smesk403
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 13:35
couple of buddies have tried it in their AR's general thought was it wasn't quite as consistent as varget. Though I haven't had the chance to get out and try it for myself yet.


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 14:10
Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Yuck yuck....just stick to vargay...Cool

Bolt gun loves the V, but the AR, a Bravo Co. middy, prefers IMR 4895. 

This new wonder powder had me at "cleaner".  


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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 14:59
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Yuck yuck....just stick to vargay...Cool

Bolt gun loves the V, but the AR, a Bravo Co. middy, prefers IMR 4895. 

This new wonder powder had me at "cleaner".  
Cleaner than Vargay?!?!
 
My Spikes tactical / Model 1 AR loves V just fine...


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 15:00
MAn I've got varget loads for everything from 223 to 300WM...all Sub-MOA Hippie

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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/05/2012 at 15:33
Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Yuck yuck....just stick to vargay...Cool

Bolt gun loves the V, but the AR, a Bravo Co. middy, prefers IMR 4895. 

This new wonder powder had me at "cleaner".  
Cleaner than Vargay?!?!
 
My Spikes tactical / Model 1 AR loves V just fine...

Not MY claim....theirs off the website. 

Bud, you got a .3 Winnie Mag load with Varget? What bullet? 


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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: October/08/2012 at 07:28
Same thought whats your 300 winny load with it Bud?

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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: October/08/2012 at 07:44
I'll have to check the V 300WM load notes.  I do remember that only hte lighter bullets had load data for 300WM and varget.  I'm thinkg it stops at 180gr max weight... but aren't sure.
I got right at 1 MOA for the load I worked up...


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: warboar_21
Date Posted: October/24/2012 at 05:45
So far to update on my experience with this powder.  I am shooting an Armalite AR-10 16" carbine.  It will shoot .94" 5 shot groups with Federal Factory 168gr SMK match ammo. 
 
So far what I have discovered with the CFE-223 is that in my AR-10 it needs to be at or very near a max load for it to cycle reliably.  The 5 shot grouping is approx. the same as the Factory loaded match ammo.  I had one group shoot 4 touching but the 5th shot put it out to .80"  That's the best so far.  It is under MOA so I am more than happy since Armalite says on their website that this gun is a 2"- 3" shooter.  I am still playing with seating depths and going to try Varget as well as moving up to a 168gr or even a 175gr Match bullet when time permits. 
 
As far as it being any cleaner than other powders I haven't really noticed to much of a difference.   
 


Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: October/24/2012 at 09:43
A friend of mine is experimenting with CFE223. He called me the other night and gave me an update.
He likes minimum loads, since he rarely shoots over 100yds, with collection of Colt AR-15s. He tries both 20 and 16 inch barrels.
With starting loads for the 55gr bullits he found that the 20" barreled AR was reliable and ejected cases well to the right rear of him and held the bout open on the last round. With the same load in the 16" barrel, he said the cases landed on the bench next to the rifle, and he had some failures to eject.
He also found that the bolts were very dirty after shooting.
He is going to do some more experimenting.


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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: trojan73
Date Posted: October/24/2012 at 12:18
I bought a few pounds of this stuff a few weeks ago but havent tested it out yet. I reloaded at least 100 rounds with 62 grain FMJ with 25 grains of CFE using CCI Primers. Ill be going out tomorrow to test out 2 guns. First gun is a:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765910_-1_757785_757784_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y - http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765910_-1_757785_757784_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
 
Next gun is a:
http://sionicsweaponsystems.com/store/product.php?id_product=10 - http://sionicsweaponsystems.com/store/product.php?id_product=10
 
Ill let you guys know how they respond.


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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.
George Washington



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