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Topic: Scope for Ruger Mini 30 7.63x39
Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Subject: Scope for Ruger Mini 30 7.63x39
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 15:31
Are any of you shooting a Ruger Mini 30 or Mini  14 and if so what scopes have you had good success with.   Like the M 1a this is a fast action semi auto.  The rifle comes with one inch rings where I typically would prefer.  I tend to lean toward a fixed power scope 4x or less as I dont forsee the 7.62x39 cartridge being the rifle I would select past that.   I kind of like this  4x IOR but I would be happier with something like a 2x .  Also this price range or less would be preferable.
http://swfa.com/IOR-4x32-Hunting-Rifle-Scope-P6742.aspx">IOR 4x32 Hunting Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/ior_4a_popup.jpg">4A http://swfa.com/IOR-4x32-Hunting-Rifle-Scope-P6742.aspx -
$359.95 


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 17:04
Wes, if you want a 2x why not an Acog or aimpoint?

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Posted By: Trickster
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 17:11
Because both are way beyond his price range (looking at new ones here).

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 17:45
Im not planning on putting an illuminated optic on it, I have other rifles set up that way, this one I just plan to play with coyotes probably, and honestly I am already regretting buying it, I was going to buy a stainless 45-70 but it was scratched up so I bought this without really researching it.  While they do make hi cap mags for it they are spendy and scarce, and Ruger does something funky with the barrel apparently bore is a .308 made to swage down the .310  typical 7.62x39 so there are mixed stories about reliability with different AK import ammo and brass case US ammo is recommended. The Horniday book shows loads for .308 150 gr bullets which may make it interesting and more effective so its a new challenge, but it is stainless.  The 30mm rings for ruger are spendy for what they are in Leupold or Ruger and it comes with one inch rings so either a fixed power or low power variable one inch tube sounds like the ticket.  I do have some concern that a NON -Tactical  hunting type variable may not hold up to this action so I want a company who offers a good warranty.  One of the first scopes I thougth of was the now discontinued 2-7 Viper. I also spotted a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest on samplelist.  Pretty sure the 3-9 Zeiss will either go on it or I may do a scope switch and put my 2-7 Viper on it and the 3-9 on the other rifle.  Really what I probably should have done was buy the 45-70 and try to buff out the marks on it. OOPS

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 17:47
to go to an ACOG one would first have to go to a rail.
http://swfa.com/GGG-Ruger-Mini-14-Ranch-Rifle-Accessory-P40350.aspx">GG&G Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Accessory http://swfa.com/GGG-Ruger-Mini-14-Ranch-Rifle-Accessory-P40350.aspx - Bobby Paul Doherty
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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:21
Paul has one in the .223 version the Mini - 14 so I thought the Mini - 30 would afford the opportunity to shoot really cheap 7.62x39 ammo that I did not have to reload. OOPS that may not be the case.  To get the most out of it probably will require reloading 150 gr hornidays into brass cases. 


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Posted By: excess650
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:22
I would suggest a Leupold 1-4x with heavy duplex.


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:26
His has a 1-4 Bushnell Trophy.  But to go to 30mm rings I think you have to order them from Ruger. Now if the darn thing used the same 30mm rings that the Ruger Model 77 bolt guns use I have a set laying on the bench but that would just be way too easy so rather than buy 30mm rings it seems better to spend more and go to a 1 inch tube scope of better quality.
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-4x24-Trophy-XLT-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P48386.aspx">Bushnell 1-4x24 Trophy XLT 30mm Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/bushnell_4adot_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-4x24-Trophy-XLT-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P48386.aspx - 30mm
  • Comes with Lens Covers
  • $229.95 


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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:33
    True a 1-4 or 2-7 does make a lot of sense.    But it has to be a 1 inch tube.
    http://swfa.com/Weaver-1-3x20-Classic-V-Rifle-Scope-P2864.aspx">Weaver 1-3x20 Classic V Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/weaver_dualx_popup.jpg">Dual-X http://swfa.com/Weaver-1-3x20-Classic-V-Rifle-Scope-P2864.aspx -
    $169.95
    http://swfa.com/Redfield-2-7x33-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44466.aspx">Redfield 2-7x33 Revolution Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/redfield_4plex_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Redfield-2-7x33-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44466.aspx -
    $179.95 
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-VX-3-Riflescope-P12633.aspx">Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-3 Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_duplex_popup.jpg">Duplex http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-VX-3-Riflescope-P12633.aspx -
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
  • $399.95 


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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:34
    But buy purchasing a 3-9x40 Conquest new   Rudolphone just might get LUCKY. Devil



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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 18:40
    Guess What just went on SALE for a hundred off and now just $399.95 where last month it was $499.95:
    http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-9x40-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P608.aspx">Zeiss 3-9x40 Conquest Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/zeiss_20_popup.jpg">Z-Plex http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-9x40-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P608.aspx -
  • Etched Glass
  • 2nd Plane
  • $399.95 


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    Posted By: excess650
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 19:11
    Have you checked out your friend's Bushnell Trophy? I'm curiuos as to optical quality, eye relief, field of view and brightness. I'm asking because I'm looking for a 30mm compact scope for my Gunsite Scout and looking for an alternative to a Leupold VX-III 1.5-5x. I'm leanig towards a VX-6 1-6x.


    Posted By: RotoReuter_DM
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 19:50
    Conquest glass is awesome but unless the display model I messed with had jacked up turrets. I've felt better turrets on a Bushnell Sharpshooter.

    The 2-7x32 Viper sits on my. 243 coyote gun. Really like those scopes hope vortex comes out with something similiar again.

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    Posted By: helo18
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 20:02
    Wow, I think I would jump on the Conquest on sale.  Close to your price range and can be run on 3x.  

    There is a Burris Sig Sel 1.5-6x40 on the sample list that would be a good mag range for the rifle.


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    Posted By: tman1965
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 20:04
    I had a weaver classic 4x38 on mine and that worked out quite nicely

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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 21:23
    The weaver 4x is probably a great choice, good suggestion. Im leaning toward putting the 2-7 Viper on it and putting the new 3-9 Conquest on the other rifle.  I thougth about the Burris but for some reason I have not had good luck with most of the Burris products.  I do have a 1x Burris on an Encore pistol and I thought about using that but the deal on the Zeiss was too good to pass up I almost bought one last year when they were on sale then regretted it later when the price went up to $500.   As for the 1-4 Trophy I like the scope but I had to put a piece of rubber under the cap to hold the battery in place, its not a great scope but its an OK scope for the money and does have illumination which most stuff in that price range doesnt. Still If I was going to go to 30mm rings I would use an Aimpoint 9000L or a 6x42 Super Sniper probably. The only 1-4 scope I have is a 30mm tube Trijicon which would be a great choice on this rifle except for the fact I dont want to buy the 30mm rings when I already have a set of Ruger 30mm rings that fit their bolt guns and they use an odd ball size screw smaller than most others. I tried for a long time to stay only with 30mm tube scopes but that leaves out a lot of teritory.
    The more I think about it the 4x weaver probably would be a great choice.
    http://swfa.com/Weaver-4x38-Classic-K-Rifle-Scope-P5054.aspx">Weaver 4x38 Classic K Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/weaver_dualx_popup.jpg">Dual-X http://swfa.com/Weaver-4x38-Classic-K-Rifle-Scope-P5054.aspx -
    $144.95 
     

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    Posted By: helo18
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 21:30
    Well, I know I like the one weaver I have, and the ancient weaver 6x on my dads 270 has always impressed me.  The viper will be a good match for the gun.

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    Posted By: oldguy
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 21:56
    I'm running a redfield revolution 2x7 on my Mini-30,works great, good glass.


    Posted By: Sparky
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 23:31
    Tagged for interest.


    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: August/08/2012 at 23:40
    Considering the specifics of the cartridge, I would probably be inclined to put a Weaver V3 on that rifle.

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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: August/09/2012 at 09:37
    Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

    Considering the specifics of the cartridge, I would probably be inclined to put a Weaver V3 on that rifle.

    ILya
    Certainly the right power range. A fixed 2x is probably what I would like but I dont know of one in a 1 in tube and I dont know a lot about Weaver' warranty which is why Im thinking about using the 2-7 Viper off of another rifle then putting the new 3-9 Conquest on the other rifle.  Had the fixed 3x SWFA only Leupold been a 2x that is what I would have gone with.  It would seem like a fixed 2x would be a good dangerous game gun and shotgun, and  musket, scope too so Im not sure why we dont see one made by someone.  The fixed 1x Burris I have is a very solid scope but they quit making those and I hate to rob it off of my 45-70 pistol.  
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-3x20-FX-II-Riflescope-P50855.aspx">Leupold 3x20 FX-II Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_duplex_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Leupold-3x20-FX-II-Riflescope-P50855.aspx - Leupold 3x20 FX-II Riflescope
    Stock # - LEU000320
    • Matte
    • Duplex
    • 1"
    • Multi-Coat 4 Lens System
    $304.95


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    Posted By: koshkin
    Date Posted: August/09/2012 at 10:26
    If you want a small fixed power, this would likely be a better option:
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-25x20-FX-II-Ultralight-Riflescope-P3264.aspx - http://swfa.com/Leupold-25x20-FX-II-Ultralight-Riflescope-P3264.aspx

    The actual magnification on it is ~2.3x, so it is not far off what you want and with a heavy duplex it is very fast to use.

    Burris used to make an unusually nice 2.5x20 FFII, but it has been discontinued for a while.  I still have an old Burris FFII 1.75-5x20 with #4 reticle that would have been a perfect scope for you.  Unfortunately, that got discontinued when they moved production to the Phillipines.

    ILya


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    Posted By: sholling
    Date Posted: August/09/2012 at 13:59
    I went with (surprise Wink) a Weaver V3 for my Mini-14 although I may eventually upgrade to a Vortex PST, Weaver Super Slam or equivalent true 1x 1-4x24 or 1-5x24 at some point down the road. Anyway if you don't need more than 3x or an illuminated reticle I think it's a great choice. 

    If you have access to a lathe then the rail that I'm using might be a better idea than the factory mounts. The clamp washers are a little too large as it comes out of the box but I think turning them down .030" would make a big difference. My sights are a bit higher than normal and the slotted rail is cut deep enough that I can still use them which is a nice thing should they be needed.




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