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Posted By: rustic
Subject: New
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 18:50
Since SHOT is over. I am looking for a scope that is light-weight(not a 20oz boat anchor) and compact. Mag. - low side 3 to 5 and a least 12 on the high side.
Some type of ranging(no dots,circles,hashes,slashes).
Some type of lens protection.
Have not seen new products on any of the web sites yet??

I was able to CNC just over 3rd of a pound out of the stock of my new savage(barely over 5 pounds now) I am hoping to have under a six pound set-up(rifle-scope-rings-sling). 
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LH


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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:13
Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

 
Some type of ranging(no dots,circles,hashes,slashes).
 

Well, whats left? I can't think of any ranging reticles that aren't a slash, dot, circle, hash mark or some such. Or, I'm I reading your post wrong, friend?  


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:20
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

 
Some type of ranging(no dots,circles,hashes,slashes).
 

Well, whats left? I can't think of any ranging reticles that aren't a slash, dot, circle, hash mark or some such. Or, I'm I reading your post wrong, friend?  
You are SO picky...


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Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:20
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

 
Some type of ranging(no dots,circles,hashes,slashes).
 

Well, whats left? I can't think of any ranging reticles that aren't a slash, dot, circle, hash mark or some such. Or, I'm I reading your post wrong, friend?  


I should have worded that different. I want a dial with a clean reticle.


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Light is alright.<br /><br />The end is just... the beginning   -soul surfer


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:24
Ah so....I get it! Bandito

What do you mean by "Lens Protection"? You mean a coating like Rain Guard on a Bushnell, or Butler Creek caps, or....???? 

Oh, and how much $$$$ ya gonna drop? 


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Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:25
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Ah so....I get it! Bandito

What do you mean by "Lens Protection"? You mean a coating like Rain Guard on a Bushnell, or Butler Creek caps, or....???? 


Yes. Some type of option of the like.


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Light is alright.<br /><br />The end is just... the beginning   -soul surfer


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:26
Rustic with all do respect, with all your concern over weight of stuff, you might want to hit the gym a bit more often...I have hiked some really steep terrain and I am 40 years old, but have never been concerned with ounces. If it weighs to much I leave it at home, or at camp.

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:28
Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

????? 


Yes. Some type of option of the like.

I'm not reading you 5 by 5, my friend. What are you saying? 


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Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:52
Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Rustic with all do respect, with all your concern over weight of stuff, you might want to hit the gym a bit more often...I have hiked some really steep terrain and I am 40 years old, but have never been concerned with ounces. If it weighs to much I leave it at home, or at camp.


No amount of "gym work" can prepare me for the 4 to 7 thousand vertical feet of hiking I do most times on my hunts. It is impossible for the "gym" to increase red blood cell count. Every extra ounce slows me down and like you said "If it weighs to much I leave it at home, or at camp'' or better yet I just soon not buy it to begin with.
I know there are trade-offs but, if it weighs more does not necessarily make it any better. 



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Light is alright.<br /><br />The end is just... the beginning   -soul surfer


Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 19:54
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Ah so....I get it! Bandito

What do you mean by "Lens Protection"? You mean a coating like Rain Guard on a Bushnell, or Butler Creek caps, or....???? 

Oh, and how much $$$$ ya gonna drop? 


$500 to say $1200 give or take.




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Light is alright.<br /><br />The end is just... the beginning   -soul surfer


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 20:06
The gym will increase your red-blood count. If you build more muscle, the body produces  more blood to feed them. Plus, if you do lots of cardio, the body becomes more accustomed to being oxygen deprived, and recovers faster.

 My annual fishing trip is into Brady Canyon here in AZ. In about 3 miles we drop about 2000ft in elevation, usually take my 15lbs rifle with me as well as a 50lbs pack. Look up a topo map of Northern Arizona, I know rough country. 

 I guess I would rather spend money on things I know will get the job done and pay the price of sore legs, then fret over what a particular scope weighs...


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Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 20:16
Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

The gym will increase your red-blood count. If you build more muscle, the body produces  more blood to feed them. Plus, if you do lots of cardio, the body becomes more accustomed to being oxygen deprived, and recovers faster.

 My annual fishing trip is into Brady Canyon here in AZ. In about 3 miles we drop about 2000ft in elevation, usually take my 15lbs rifle with me as well as a 50lbs pack. Look up a topo map of Northern Arizona, I know rough country. 

 I guess I would rather spend money on things I know will get the job done and pay the price of sore legs, then fret over what a particular scope weighs...


Wrong
"If your diet is as good as it can be you cannot increase your red blood cell count unless you:-
1) go live at high altitude (your rbc production output will increase to compensate for the lower level of oxygen in the air.
2) smoke heavily - not advised but it will increase you hemoglobin in order to compensate for all the carbon monoxide that will be bound to your hemoglobin.
3) take EPO (erythropoeitin) which is illegal in professional sports and is now more easily detectable but was popular in the past. It stimulates your body to produce more rbc's. Has risks including blood clots/DVT's because it causes your blood to be more viscous.
4) blood transfusion - 'blood-doping' in athletes. Now also detectable by aging the red cells in circulation."

Heavier gear will never help on this either. Reps are far more important.

It is about the gear so I can go higher, faster and farther in less time. Having more weight does nothing for that.


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Light is alright.<br /><br />The end is just... the beginning   -soul surfer


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 20:21
Going further faster and higher...With gear that may or may not survive a fall...Its your money

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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: rustic
Date Posted: January/22/2012 at 20:31
Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Going further faster and higher...With gear that may or may not survive a fall...Its your money


Just looking for something that will not break the bank(not a wall hanging conversation peice) or not breaking on the pick-up ride to destonation because of being so "cheap". There has to be some "new products" out there for the hunter on the move?? 


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Posted By: courtelserio
Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 17:59
The new Leupold CDS scopes might offer you something, they have a Vx-2 4-12 that weighs 13 oz,
has high mag of 12, duplex reticle, you get a custom dial to match your load.  I like the looks of the Leupold Alumina Flip Up caps (Butler Creek's new ones seem to break easily).  And with a light set of rings/mounts you would probably only add about a pound to the rifle.  You would probably be slightly over 6 lb after adding the sling. If you wanted to budge a little on your high magnification requirement you can get the 3-9 Ultralight scope that weighs around 9 oz, then you would probably be able to make your 6 lb goal w/ sling. 
 

Leupold VX-2 Riflescopes

Leupold 4-12x40 VX-2 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU114408
  • Matte
  • Fine Duplex
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Custom Dial System
  • Indexed Matched, Diamond Coat & Edge Blackened Lens System
  • Includes FREE http://swfa.com/SWFA-Lens-Pen-P1850.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Lens Pen & http://swfa.com/Leupold-Alumina-Twist-On-Lens-Covers-C979.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
Specifications
Weight (oz): 13.2

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Fine Duplex

Length (in): 12.3
Eye Relief (in): 4.9 - 3.7
Field of View @ 100 yards (ft): 20.4 - 9.7
MOA: Custom Dial System
Finish: Matte
Ring Spacing
Max Mount Ring Spacing (in): 5.0

Leupold Ultralight Riflescopes

Leupold 3-9x33 VX-2 Ultralight Riflescope
Stock # - LEU114414
  • Matte
  • Wide Duplex
  • 1"
  • Custom Dial System
  • Indexed Matched, Diamond Coat & Edge Blackened Lens System
  • Includes FREE http://swfa.com/SWFA-Lens-Pen-P1850.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Lens Pen & http://swfa.com/Leupold-Alumina-Twist-On-Lens-Covers-C979.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
Specifications
Weight (oz): 9.3

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Wide Duplex

Length (in): 11.3
Eye Relief (in): 3.4 - 3.1
Field of View @ 100 yards (ft): 35.7 - 13.6
MOA: Custom Dial System
Finish: Matte
Ring Spacing
Max Mount Ring Spacing (in): 5.5


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 18:06
http://swfa.com/Leupold-45-14x40-Mark-4-LRT-30mm-Riflescope-P2550.aspx" rel="nofollow">Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_duplex_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow">Duplex http://swfa.com/Leupold-45-14x40-Mark-4-LRT-30mm-Riflescope-P2550.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 18:07
http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Competition-Hunter-Riflescope-P12754.aspx" rel="nofollow">Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Competition Hunter Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_targetdot_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow">Target Dot http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Competition-Hunter-Riflescope-P12754.aspx" rel="nofollow -
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
  • Includes FREE http://swfa.com/SWFA-Lens-Pen-P1850.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Lens Pen & http://swfa.com/Leupold-Alumina-Twist-On-Lens-Covers-C979.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
  • $469.95 


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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 18:09
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-12x40-FX-3-Riflescope-P12759.aspx" rel="nofollow">Leupold 12x40 FX-3 Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_fineduplex_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow">Fine Duplex http://swfa.com/Leupold-12x40-FX-3-Riflescope-P12759.aspx" rel="nofollow -
  • Target Knobs
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
  • Includes FREE http://swfa.com/SWFA-Lens-Pen-P1850.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Lens Pen & http://swfa.com/Leupold-Alumina-Twist-On-Lens-Covers-C979.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
  • $499.95 
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-8x40-FX-II-Riflescope-P50864.aspx" rel="nofollow">Leupold 8x40 FX-II Riflescope http://swfa.com/images/leupold_duplex_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow"> http://swfa.com/Leupold-8x40-FX-II-Riflescope-P50864.aspx" rel="nofollow -
  • Target Knobs
  • Adjustable Objective
  • Multi-Coat 4 Lens System
  • Includes FREE http://swfa.com/SWFA-Lens-Pen-P1850.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Lens Pen & http://swfa.com/Leupold-Alumina-Twist-On-Lens-Covers-C979.aspx" rel="nofollow - - Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
  • $379.95 


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    Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
    Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 18:11
    http://www.kentonindustries.com/pics/ttctypes/" rel="nofollow - http://www.kentonindustries.com/pics/ttctypes/       have knobs engraved to match your balistics

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    Bobby Paul Doherty
    Texas Ranger


    Posted By: Tip69
    Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 21:42
    Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

    Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

    Ah so....I get it! Bandito

    What do you mean by "Lens Protection"? You mean a coating like Rain Guard on a Bushnell, or Butler Creek caps, or....???? 


    Yes. Some type of option of the like.
     
     
    I think you missed the "or" in Cheap's post.......  coatings OR caps?


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    Posted By: rustic
    Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 22:55
    Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

    Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

    Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

    Ah so....I get it! Bandito

    What do you mean by "Lens Protection"? You mean a coating like Rain Guard on a Bushnell, or Butler Creek caps, or....???? 


    Yes. Some type of option of the like.
     
     
    I think you missed the "or" in Cheap's post.......  coatings OR caps?


    Yes I did. I do like caps for early season wet fluffy big snow. I heard rain guard works great for rain but, not in the dust or snow??


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    Posted By: Stevey Ducks
    Date Posted: January/24/2012 at 23:42
    If I had to put a scope on a fly weight rifle for hunting I would go for a fixed Leupold 6X FXII or FX3. 6X scopes really are not that bad for practical long range hunting that would be done with a 6 lb rifle.
     
    Did you say what caliber your new rifle is ?, does it kick badly -- light weight scopes seem do do better on hard kickers and the 6X FXII is real light. All mechanical devices including scope sights are subject to failure and fixed power scopes have fewer parts.
     
    Would blood doping disqualify a person from some sort of Boone & Crocket award? (just a joke - hunting is expensive enough). I hear you about weight - everything subject to gravity seems to be an increasing load to lug around.



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