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What Scope whould you recommend

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Topic: What Scope whould you recommend
Posted By: Big Sky
Subject: What Scope whould you recommend
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 13:24
I'm doing a 7mmRM lightweight mountain build on a Sako.  Right now I am at a bit over 6 lbs. What would you guys recommend in scope and rings.  I do a bit of back country hiking and camping for elk and for fun. Weight matters!  And yes I'm having it threaded for a break, I like to shoot/practice in the off season.

Requirement:
  • Magnification up top to 14-20+/-.
  • Reticle for windage and elevation for long range +/- 800yd shots

What matters
: light, fine reticle, clear high contrast optics, side paralax
Less important:  light gathering, prefer smaller objective.

I have found one scope of possible interest that I have seen/held in a shop but not outdoors.  Looopy VXIII, B and C reticle with 30mm tube to 40obj Long range.  Looks interesting but I'm a patient guy.  And I have always thought the europeans made superior glass.

Any recommendations or experiences please let me know.  I usually like to touch and feel before my purchase but in a state with more cows than men I will likely be at the burden of your experience and my research?

Thanks in Advance to all!
B


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Posted By: Vermin93
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 15:00
This is a couple ounces heavier and it has a slightly bigger objective than what you're looking for, but it fits the rest of your requirements like a glove and it's available for a very good price on SampleList:

http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx - http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx

I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these myself before they are gone.


Posted By: Vermin93
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 15:10
I forgot to mention that if you're not familiar with the Zeiss Rapid Z ballistic reticles you can check them out here:

http://www.zeiss.com/c1256bcf0020be5f/Contents-Frame/c6b062a1c5089a5585257546006e354d - http://www.zeiss.com/c1256bcf0020be5f/Contents-Frame/c6b062a1c5089a5585257546006e354d

They also have a neat Rapid-Z Calculator that you can use to chart a factory load or work up your own load. 

The Rapid Z-800 reticle on the scope that I linked would give you the windage and elevation holdover capability that you want for long range +/- 800yd shots.

Good luck!


Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 15:13
Swaro Z5 3.5-18 x 44 ? It runs around $1500. Bushy 6500 2.5-16 X 42 with DOA reticle. It runs about $800. Burris Six X 2-12 X 40 with the B-plex E1 reticle. It runs about $1000. Leica 3.5-14 x 42 with the ballistic reticle. It runs about $2000. 

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 16:05
The Swaro Z5 with BRH (or BRX if you want a really fine reticle) meets all of your criteria.  An excellent scope.

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-35-18x44-Z5-Riflescope-P47245.aspx - http://swfa.com/Swarovski-35-18x44-Z5-Riflescope-P47245.aspx

If you could give up a little magnification and side parallax, you could save money and weight by going with the 3-10X42 Swaro Z3 with BRH.

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-3-10x42-Z3-Riflescope-P47243.aspx - http://swfa.com/Swarovski-3-10x42-Z3-Riflescope-P47243.aspx

The ballistic reticle Z3 riflescopes have parallax set at 200 meters, which minimizes parallax error at extended ranges.


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 16:06
And welcome to the OT.

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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 21:18
Matt picked my favorite. ExcellentI have the Leupuold you mention. It is weak on contrast. and a little fuzzy at ranges over 350 yds. I prefer the Zeiss Z800 a lot more over that Leupold. So +1 on the Zeiss
 Welcome to the OT

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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 21:55
Gentlemen,

Thank you for all your response.  I did notice a couple of things:

  • No one mentioned Leupold, interesting
  • Zeiss and Swaro appears to be at the top of the list to consider

Vermin, Thank you for the link to the demo Zeiss.  That appears to be quite a value.  And Matt, this is a great resource for those that are seeking information.

Narrowing it down Zeiss Conquest Z800/SP/14/44 vs Swaro Z5 BRX SP/18/44

Could you tell my your thoughts and experiences as to who is superior:
  • Color
  • Contrast
  • Reticle "Finer is my Preference"
  • Service


I can look up weights, but with a 1 in tube and a 40-44 objective, I will be fairly light for Long Range Mountain Rifle.  I would bet that their is only a few ounces between these two.

Is there anything else optically that I need to consider for a project such as this?

Also, What is your thoughts on light Tally Rings? Feel free suggest your "lightweight" rings of choice. Sako A7, so Picattiny it is.



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I love my God, I love my family, I love my guns. Why do I feel as if my Government is trying to take that and my money from me?


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June/11/2011 at 22:11
3 Tens

Thanks for your thoughts on that specific Leopold!!!  Caution there.  It looked good in the hand, but they all do in the store.  I will heed your advice!

I am actually sending a Looopy LPS 2.5x10/50 back to Customer Service to have the reticle changed to B and C.  I have had excellent results with my LPS, very clear and it has been consistently shot with one of my other 7mm RM (i like 7's) and it has held strong.  But I am going to move that LPS to another project, 270 win.

So in reality whatever I get for this Light Weight 7 RM project, I will be purchasing a BIG Brother to match my other 7 RM that is sporting a 28inch Lilji Custom NON Light Weight.  I like consistency in what I do.


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I love my God, I love my family, I love my guns. Why do I feel as if my Government is trying to take that and my money from me?


Posted By: 7025jack
Date Posted: June/12/2011 at 07:05
Personally Sir, I would look for a used Kahles CL.....whole lotta scope, more bang for the buck in my opinion. And I sir, would not even consider a muzzlebreak on a 7mm mag. Your shoulder can adjust for the kick but your ears will never adjust to the noise. JMHOWink


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/12/2011 at 13:31
Talley lightweight one piece ringmounts and Zeiss Conquest  4.5-14

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Posted By: hotspot
Date Posted: June/12/2011 at 14:18
hey i am in the same boat, what did you  good scope wise?


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: June/12/2011 at 15:12
Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:



Narrowing it down Zeiss Conquest Z800/SP/14/44 vs Swaro Z5 BRX SP/18/44

Could you tell my your thoughts and experiences as to who is superior:
  • Color
  • Contrast
  • Reticle "Finer is my Preference"
  • Service


The Swaro is slightly better in color and contrast.  The Swaro BRH is finer than the Rapid-Z.  The BRX is finer still, but a little too fine for low-light hunting, IMO.  Both companies have excellent CS reputations.


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-Matt



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