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Topic: Zeiss Deal - Demo not pre-owned, + life warranty
Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Subject: Zeiss Deal - Demo not pre-owned, + life warranty
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:12
Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Conquest Rifle Scope DEMO-B

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$599.95 <   

Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Conquest Rifle Scope DEMO-B

Stock # - SPL12849
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http://swfa.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P8671.aspx - SWFA new price: $874.95

Guys I just ordered one of these and I thought I would let you in on a tad more info about them. It may be listed as Demo B but they are not used scopes that someone owned and didnt like - they came directly from Zeiss as a "Demo" (so they probably laid in a glass case at some show display) and it has the full lifetime transferable warranty.  So these are a good value for a hunting scope at a BIG Savings .    This will be my first Zeiss so -- Brady  -  Pick me a Winner Party

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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger



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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:14
http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx - http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx

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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:16
You are going to be VERY happy, I think.  Excellent scope.
 
If I wasn't seriously considering purchasing a couple of rifles,  I would certainly jump on that. 


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:17
Thats how I bought my conquest too Wes,  Couldn't find a spot on it


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:17
Yea since my wife didnt buy me a scope for my birthday I had to do it myself.

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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:19
Did I tell you that my wife bought me a Hensoldt???
 
Wasn't my birthday, either...


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:25
Stare


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:30
Reticle: Rapid Z 800
I've been toying with the ideal of buying a Zeiss for about a year and almost bought one with the Z1000 reticle but since it wasn't going to go on a .308 that made me back off. The Z800 reticle though after a lot of careful consideration I am convinced is the one I want.  Typically I like to dial in correction but for a true hunting rig tactical knobs add another variable to be mis-adjusted by going through brush. I think this scope should be ideal.  I took the 3-9x40 off my musket a few months ago wanting a tad more power to get a closer look at the rack on deer to select. Right now I have a 4-16x40 Bushnell 4200 for the musket that came off my 300 WSM but that leaves me short a scope for the 300WSM and this should be ideal.


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:35
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Did I tell you that my wife bought me a Hensoldt???
 
Wasn't my birthday, either...
Why yes you did Baby-  that was just one more little nudge pushing me over the cliff to make the decision.
Then I ordered in an Aimpoint 9000L and it sat around for a month before I figured out what to put it on and I put it on an Encore Pistol  44mag -- SWEET its lots of fun. That left me with trade in material a 2x Burris pistol scope. Devil


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: coyote95
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 12:55
just bought a new one that mag ring number did not line up with indicater mark on scope at low magnification. its off about 1/4"  do not know if this would be a concern for you ?     called zeiss and they said they new of the problem .

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Posted By: coyote95
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 13:14
from the picture it looks to be half way between the 4.5 and the 5x  oh well  really wasn't expecting that from a company like zeiss. Shocked

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"Life is like riding a bicycle . To keep balance you must keep moving" Albert Einstein


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 14:24
Originally posted by coyote95 coyote95 wrote:

just bought a new one that mag ring number did not line up with indicater mark on scope at low magnification. its off about 1/4"  do not know if this would be a concern for you ?     called zeiss and they said they new of the problem .


That would be a real problem with a Rapid-Z reticle when tuning the subtensions to your load.


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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 14:26
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Did I tell you that my wife bought me a Hensoldt???
 
Why no, Dan, you didn't... that's the first I heard of this!
 
Why has it taken you so long to mention it?


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 16:34




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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 16:35
I'm sure I'll get the scope figured out.  What I do is set it on the power I want and then shoot it at different distances and keep notes on which line corresponds to what distance at what power. I will probably chart it at 4.5X and at 6x and at 14.5X  to see what I get with my load. This 300 WSM Tikka is one I shoot a lot so it wont take long to figure it out.   Once its zeroed at 100 take it to other distances shoot a hole in the paper and put a marker in the hole large enough to see from that distance and see what line on the scope it corresponds to, from there is doesnt matter wht the marks are on the power ring because you are either stalking game on lowest power 4.5x or you are hunting in low light 6x or you are using every bit of magnification from a solid rest.  14.5x 

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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 16:41
Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I'm sure I'll get the scope figured out.  What I do is set it on the power I want and then shoot it at different distances and keep notes on which line corresponds to what distance at what power. I will probably chart it at 4.5X and at 6x and at 14.5X  to see what I get with my load. This 300 WSM Tikka is one I shoot a lot so it wont take long to figure it out.   Once its zeroed at 100 take it to other distances shoot a hole in the paper and put a marker in the hole large enough to see from that distance and see what line on the scope it corresponds to, from there is doesnt matter wht the marks are on the power ring because you are either stalking game on lowest power 4.5x or you are hunting in low light 6x or you are using every bit of magnification from a solid rest.  14.5x 

or 12x...


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: trigger29
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 17:21
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by coyote95 coyote95 wrote:

just bought a new one that mag ring number did not line up with indicater mark on scope at low magnification. its off about 1/4"  do not know if this would be a concern for you ?     called zeiss and they said they new of the problem .


That would be a real problem with a Rapid-Z reticle when tuning the subtensions to your load.
This is why it's a must to verify your shots before hunting. I do find that odd though. I just checked mine, and no such problem exists on mine.
 
Wess, you should love that scope. I run that exact one on my Accumark, and love it. What caliber is it going on?


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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 18:58
It will be on a 300 WSM  Tikka stainless synthetic.

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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: trigger29
Date Posted: June/03/2011 at 04:53
With my load, I run mine on about 10.5x-11x. It's a pretty mild .300 wby load. I used the zeiss calculator to get me close, and tuned from there. I figure, if it's far enough to need a reticle for holdover, 10-11x isn't too much, and still allows me a big enough exit pupil to see till after legal shooting light.

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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/05/2011 at 10:56
I'd be really surprised if the rest of these dont sell out within a few days.
http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx - http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P1554.aspx




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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: clayhunter
Date Posted: June/06/2011 at 06:23
OK - this needs to stop. Big Smile
I have two rifles that need glass - a Remington 700 in 7mm STW which this Zeiss would be perfect for, and a Blaser Tac 2 which would look really good with SWFA's 5-20 on it.  
I had planned to space out these glass purchases, but SWFA is offering killer prices on both at the same time.  My wife is an understanding woman but buying both at the same time would likely test her sweet and gentle disposition.  Nice work SWFA, but you're creating a problem for me...


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/06/2011 at 10:10
clayhunter I'm in the same boat so I'll share my soulution -- DONT TELL HER
 
Rule #1: What women dont know often wont hurt them.


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: June/06/2011 at 10:12
and forgiveness is always easier to ask for than permission


Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: June/06/2011 at 22:45
Yeah,but so much more costlyWink

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/16/2011 at 08:15
Well I got out to the range yesterday and got it zeroed at 200 yds then shot 300, 400, 500, 600 while aiming at the same spot with the center X  which gave me groups below center. From there I took a can of black spray paint and marked the groups below center and compared how the marks on paper compare to the hold over lines on the reticle.
300 WSM 2850FPS  190 gr SMK   .533 BC 1000 ft 67degrees 75% humidity  Nasty wind from 6 O'Clock
I'm a bit rough using the Zeiss Balistic Calculator as it doesnt seem to want to let me do what makes sense to me like use Max power 14x it tells me to use 10.4x and
Center X Zeroed at 200yds
Bar  3  301yds
       4  404yds
       5  503yds
       6  600yds
       7  695yds
       8  788yds
So at 600 yds 10.4x the shots were pretty darn close to on target, I'll work with it and tweek it some.
 
When I went to different distances aiming the center of the crosshairs at the same mark near the top of the paper but shooting at 300, 400, 500 and 600yds to get holes below that mark actual drop of bullet.
I had a pretty good size piece of paper with the aim point near the top of it I found that the shots from 600 were below the paper but had impact groups at 300, 400, 500 which I used black spray paint to mark the center of each three shot group. Then I went back and looked through the scope making notes on how the lines on the reticle compare to the actual groups marked on the paper. 
Interesting how much what the reticle lines represent changes from 4.5x to 14x.  I saved the target paper and notes and need to put more time into this project to fully understand what Im getting with this scope,  but the glass is very nice and the Talley Lightweight ringmounts and Tikka T3 stainless synthetic make a nice combo with this scope.   
 
 


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: June/16/2011 at 08:33

Sounds promising.  For the price I know your stoked.



Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/01/2011 at 21:45
Range Time testing.  First time out I zeroed it at 300 then using the center of the crosshairs aimed at the orange dot went back to 300,  400,  500,  &  600  the 600 was off the paper below.


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/01/2011 at 21:49
Second time out with it I wanted to test to see with it Zeroed a 200 yds  how the Line #3 corresponded to shots from 300 yds away and how the line #6 corresponded to shots from 600 yds away. It was rather windy and I made some windage adjustments but this will give you an idea how changing the power setting of the scope changes point of impact while using the bars for hold over.


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
Bobby Paul Doherty
Texas Ranger


Posted By: Summer@SWFA
Date Posted: February/03/2012 at 13:04

Gotta love the Sample List ...

Clayhunter just sweet talk her!
 
Let her know that Zeiss has unsurpassed clarity that is well worth the moneyWink
 



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