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Topic: 1x Muzzy scope opinions
Posted By: COLOelkman
Subject: 1x Muzzy scope opinions
Date Posted: May/31/2011 at 23:13
I drew a UT muzzy tag this year and they allow 1x scopes and I've only shot open sights here in CO.  I've not seen a whole lot of options.  Since it will likely be a one time use, then sell it, I'd probably not fork over $450+ for the higher end stuff.  So far I've only seen Nikon Buckmaster, Sightron, and Simmons.  I'm looking for fine crosshairs to be able to sight in at 150-175 yds and good light gathering capability.  Any opinions and options would be appreciated!   Doug 



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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: June/01/2011 at 07:18
You may or may not like this advise.........  You drew a rather hard to get tag correct?  Your gonna spend a decent amount of money on this hunt that may not happen again for a while?  You will get a chance to harvest an animal and want it to be a clean and efficient kill?  Don't skimp on the optics if you are just trying to save some coin.  You owe it to your animal and everyone who didn't get a tag to use the best equipment you can to put down the animal effectively.  I'd hate to come back from that hunt and say i drew a blank cause I missed a shot cause my cheap scope was off.  IF your gonna go cheap on the scope I'd suggest just using irons and not worring with a scope at all.
 
 
 With that said......
 
 
Good luck and go bust one.


Posted By: COLOelkman
Date Posted: June/01/2011 at 19:32
You are correct on all accounts and I am not looking for a cheap/lowest price scope.  Just probably not going to get the best one made (If I could even figure out which is "best") since it will be a one and done kind of use and not sure if the best scope will give me significantly better optics/accuracy/light gathering for a the 1x scope.  I'm sure I can sell whatever I get afterwards.  I'm thinking that a dot scope would cover up too much of the target at 150 yds but since I've never used a dot scope (only small front bead on open sights).  Someone suggested an Aimpoint dot scope which was in the $450-500 range but I'm not sure if this would be "significantly better " than a good scope with fine crosshairs.
I'm thinking about first putting on one of my existing scopes like a 4x12 to sight in with new bullets and new powder to be more confident where the gun shoots with different combos.  Then when I find a good combo, put on a 1x and shoot different distances to see what my realistic limitations are.
 
So I guess my question is, in a 1x scope, is a dot scope going to be more accurate than fine cross hairs?
 
I've not found any scopes with cross hair reticles for much over about $175 (via Ebay or Amazon)
I'll be checking local stores in Denver but not sure if I'll find anyone with a 1x scope since they are not legal here for muzzys and I'm not sure how popular they would be otherwise.
 
So if you have any recommendations for me to consider, I'd be glad to here it since a 1x scope is new territory for me and I may have to buy it sight unseen if I can't find any here!


Posted By: Shenko
Date Posted: June/01/2011 at 20:24
From what I've seen of Buckmasters, and what guys I know think of them, I can't see why a 1X Buckmaster would be a bad idea. If I was in your place, that's what I'd do. The Sightron might work just as well, but I have zero experience with Sightron, so I just don't know.


Posted By: COLOelkman
Date Posted: June/01/2011 at 22:01
I have called all the sporting goods dealers in Denver and nobody carries a 1x except for red dots and not that I'm opposed to them.  One place carried 2, one for $99 and one for $550 and I'm probably somewhere between that.  I really don't want to buy a scope without looking at it whatever I get so I might have to drive to Sydney to Cableas but call to see what they have in stock first.  I have zero experience with red dots scopes so I'm just not sure if I should limit myself to those just because I can't find others to compare!   Thanks for any suggestions and experience you all share!!


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: June/02/2011 at 09:21
I live in Utah and Muzzleload hunt every year.  I tried the red dot scopes, but did not like them.  I ended up buying a Simmons 1x shotgun scope.  I much prefer a regular reticle over a red dot.

I have had it on my muzzleloader(s) since 1995 and it has been perfect for me.  Though I don't think they make that one any more.

But Sightron has one.  http://swfa.com/Sightron-1x20-SI-Riflescope-P9195.aspx - http://swfa.com/Sightron-1x20-SI-Riflescope-P9195.aspx

Also Thompson Center has a 1x scope.  My dad has it on his muzzleloader and it works well.  It looks near identical to my Simmons.


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Posted By: COLOelkman
Date Posted: June/04/2011 at 08:46
I think I've narrowed it down to a 1x scope with a crosshair.  I'll have to drive out of state to even find one since I've not found anyone in Denver that carries them since they're not legal here, for muzzys anyway.  I'd like to get a good quality scope but I'm finding they don't seem to make a higher quality scope, meaning price.  From the 4 or 5 that I've found, the highest price is only about $180 (cheaper on Amazon) so I'm somewhat dissappointed that nobody seems to make a better quality scope as I'd be more apt to get one in the $300 range if it were available.  All I'm finding in that range are red dots and just from several opinons I've seen on a few sites, most hunters prefer the 1x by far.  With a 2 MOA dot being the smallest one I've seen, I'm just afraid it would cover up most of a target @ 150-200 yds which is where I'd like be be able to practice at.  Does anyone know any more on this?  Not that a $180 scope is bad as several people seem very satisfied with it's performance.  I'd just like to get a bit better glass if it were available.



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