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Topic: swarovski Z3 vs zeiss conquest
Posted By: billiam13
Subject: swarovski Z3 vs zeiss conquest
Date Posted: January/25/2011 at 20:22
Which of these is the better scope? Give me pros and cons. They are prices very similar, are they about equal, or is one better?



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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/25/2011 at 21:09
I will give you my opinion soon.  I have a Conquest 3-9X40 Rapid Z600.  I like that scope a lot.

I ordered a z3 4-12X50 BRH from SWFA that should be here by Friday.  I have high hopes for the scope.


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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: January/25/2011 at 22:03
Swaro Z3 is a little better optically.  Mechanically... who knows?

The Z3's are a few ounces lighter than equivalent Conquests, if that matters.


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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 06:29
I'll take the Z3 any day. 

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Posted By: lucytuma
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 09:53
I agree the z3 is a tad better than the conquest optically.  There's just something about the swaro's fit and feel that "screams" quality to me, others may have a different opinion about this.

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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:04
are they $300 better??

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:13
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

are they $300 better??


Might not be for the OP and the 3-9 models but the difference between the 4.5-14 rapid Z800 and 4-12 brh is only $50 right now.

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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:24
thats good!!Big Grin

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:41
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

thats good!!Big Grin


We will see!

I can't wait to see that brown truck's tracks in my driveway!


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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:45
i bet!



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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 10:58



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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 11:30
My UPS driver looks nothing like that!Shocked


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 11:32
no joke, i would buy all sorts of stuff i didnt need or could afford!Big Grin

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 17:39
If my UPS person showed up dressed like tha I'd have to shoot HIM.If my Ups person showed up looking like her,my wife would have to shoot meBig Smile

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Posted By: robbie
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 18:09
Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

If my UPS person showed up dressed like tha I'd have to shoot HIM.If my Ups person showed up looking like her,my wife would have to shoot meBig Smile
I was taking a drink as I was reading this post.  Almost spit club soda all over my puter...


Posted By: jjyoung
Date Posted: January/26/2011 at 21:25
definitely some sort of shooting going on 


Posted By: silver
Date Posted: January/27/2011 at 09:26
For some strange reason only 8 shots seems to get that driver.

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/28/2011 at 17:22
Brown box by the door!!

Christmas in January!







I will post some impressions in the Member's Review section as soon as I have a little time with her.  Here she is next to my Conquest:



Pretty compact for a 4-12, and lightweight too.  Reticle looks cool.  Can't wait to get her on the Elkinator!






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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: January/28/2011 at 17:54
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/29/2011 at 23:52
Mouth Taped Shut


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/30/2011 at 20:07
I posted an "Initial impressions" review in the Member's Test and Review section.

http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html - http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html


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Posted By: Stud Duck
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 07:06
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

I posted an "Initial impressions" review in the Member's Test and Review section.

http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html - http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html
When you say "CA", I assume you mean color abberation, am I correct?


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 07:17
Technically, it means "chromatic aberration," but it's the same thing.  CA is the color fringing you sometimes see along the edge of high contrast surfaces such as dark objects silhouetted against a light or bright background.  

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Posted By: Stud Duck
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 07:21
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Technically, it means "chromatic aberration," but it's the same thing.  CA is the color fringing you sometimes see along the edge of high contrast surfaces such as dark objects silhouetted against a light or bright background.  
Thanks for the clarification, it's been awhile for me....that and the pic of that UPS driver still has me rattled.


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 09:41
Originally posted by Stud Duck Stud Duck wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

I posted an "Initial impressions" review in the Member's Test and Review section.

http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html - http://www.opticstalk.com/swarovski-z3-412x50-brh-reticle_topic27412.html
When you say "CA", I assume you mean color abberation, am I correct?


Ted is correct.  I was referring to Chromatic Aberration.  I was resigned to just believing that CA was something I would have to live with given the restrictions of rifle scope design, but this scope proves me wrong. 




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Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 09:58
Even though I own some Conquests, for me, the view through Swarovski scopes is noticeably better.

Is it worth the price difference? That question applies to any scope you purchase. There does seem to be a big price jump to get anything better than a Conquest.


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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 10:01
Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Even though I own some Conquests, for me, the view through Swarovski scopes is noticeably better.

Is it worth the price difference? That question applies to any scope you purchase. There does seem to be a big price jump to get anything better than a Conquest.


Alan, the prices on Swarovski Z3 scopes are currently discounted for a Swarovski promotion.  It brings their prices quite near their Conquest counterparts.

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-Z3-Riflescopes-C1808.aspx - http://swfa.com/Swarovski-Z3-Riflescopes-C1808.aspx


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Posted By: Alan Robertson
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 10:16
Many thanks, Matt !!!



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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: January/31/2011 at 17:57
I own both but mine is the Z5 not the Z3 but the same glass I'm told.....+++++Swaro

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Posted By: handwerk
Date Posted: February/01/2011 at 06:11
Do you folks know with the Z3 what changes they made from the old AV line other than asthetics? I have both a AV and a new Z3 in 3-10x42 and can't say I see a difference optically. Great scopes.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/01/2011 at 06:27
I don't think they changed anything mechanically, just aesthetics and the series designation.

Also, at least some, if not all of the AV's were made entirely in Austria, and the Z3 is evidently now assembled in the US.  Don't know when that change went into affect.  My 2 AV's say "made in Austria" on them.


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