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Topic: Recommend a low power scope
Posted By: at2wooden
Subject: Recommend a low power scope
Date Posted: November/13/2010 at 22:58
Can anyone suggest another scope similar to the Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6X36mm?
It seems like the perfect low / high magnification combo.
It's for a dangerous game (Hog), but of course, they are discontinued by Bushnell.
Love to get a good used one, but maybe you can recommend something similar.
I have a 3-9x on the gun now, but I don't know if 3X is going to help if the critter decides to get "close and personal".
My ol' eyes ain't what they used to be, but I don't expect to need if for anything over 150 yds.
I had the Bushy 1.25-4, but needed a little more on the high side.

The glass should be of similar quality, and would have to have a good Fog / Rain coating.
And I don't want to spend more than $300



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Posted By: tman1965
Date Posted: November/13/2010 at 23:25
sounds like the vortex viper might be just the ticketWink  http://swfa.com/Vortex-2-7x32-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11227.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-2-7x32-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11227.aspx

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Posted By: grimreaper21
Date Posted: November/13/2010 at 23:43
I was gonna say the exact same, the viper line competes directly with the 4200. 3 different reticles were available the last time I checked,at the closeout sale price. Exactly what you're looking for at a FRACTION of the price


Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 06:02
  One of the best deals going right now:
 
    
 

Vortex Viper Rifle Scopes

Vortex Viper Rifle Scopes

Take charge of the hunt with a riflescope that will target game just as clearly at dusk as at high noon. XR coatings, exclusive to Vortex, increase light transmission to an amazing 95%. Now that's bright! Precise engineering put the Vortex Viper riflescopes in a class by themselves.

When hunting in close cover and expecting fast shooting, keep your scope set to its lowest power. This will give you the widest possible field of view to cover fast-moving game. When you need more magnification, the unique ViewMAG adjustment lever used on the Vortex Viper riflescopes allows rapid, easy power adjustments - even if wearing bulky gloves.

Micro-thin layers of the Vortex XR coatings provide exceptional image quality and edge-to-edge sharpness you need for seeing critical details - especially helpful on overcast days in poor light and at long distances!

Not only are the Vortex Viper riflescopes waterproof, they are highly prized with Argon gas purging - targeting corrosion and extending the life of the riflescope.

  • Argon gas does not absorb water.
  • Argon gas does not react chemically with water.
  • Argon gas maintains its protective properties over a wider range of temperatures.
  • Argon gas does not diffuse as quickly as other elements, extending the service life of the optics longer.
 
http://swfa.com/Vortex-2-7x32-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11227.aspx">Vortex 2-7x32 Viper Rifle Scope
 
 
http://swfa.com/images/vortex_c3_popup.jpg">Versa-Plex C3 http://swfa.com/Vortex-2-7x32-Viper-Rifle-Scope-P11227.aspx - Vortex 2-7x32 Viper Rifle Scope
Stock # - VPRM02G4
  • Matte
  • Versa-Plex C3
  • 1"
  • Discontinued closeout price
  • 35% OFF
$169.95


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Posted By: at2wooden
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 11:21
I agree, it looks right up my alley boys!
Fantastic price, Good eye relief, fully coated....

I am wondering about the a couple of things.
The Versa-Plex C3 looks nice, kinda like the 4A, but it looks a little thin, and I wonder if I'll be able to see it ok. Anyone use it?

Also, the "Dead-Hold BDC" reticle model looks interesting.
The Vortex web site doesn't say what caliber it's set for. Any one know?
This will go on a .223.

And lastly, is the XR coating Vortexs' "rainguard"?

Diamondback 2-7x35site

Diamondback 2-7x35



Posted By: grimreaper21
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 11:35
most people really seem to prefer that reticle because you can see the target alot better, i can't speak about if it would be hard to see though.  only thing i'd recommend is comparing the reticle sizes, go to their webpage then click each reticle and click specs for each one, comparing the measurements.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-2-7x32-riflescope-versa-plex-c3-reticle/specs - http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-2-7x32-riflescope-versa-plex-c3-reticle/specs http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-2-7x32-riflescope-versa-plex-c3-reticle/reticle -
BDC and C3 are both .2 moa, the plex at .3moa.  With how good the customer service is here, I'd probably get the C3 then just exchange it for a different one if you don't like it, i'm sure that wouldn't be a problem but don't quote me on it either (sales items might be different)
 


Posted By: at2wooden
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 12:30
Very helpful info reaper. Thanks.
From the Vortex website:

Versa-Plex C3 Reticle

This reticle is designed for quick and easy target acquisition at closer distances while still maintaining good distance precision. Ideal for the shotgun, black-powder, and dangerous game hunter.

Close enuf for gover'ment work!





Posted By: tman1965
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 15:33
Originally posted by at2wooden at2wooden wrote:

Very helpful info reaper. Thanks.
From the Vortex website:

Versa-Plex C3 Reticle

This reticle is designed for quick and easy target acquisition at closer distances while still maintaining good distance precision. Ideal for the shotgun, black-powder, and dangerous game hunter.

Close enuf for gover'ment work!



at2, thats the reason i posted the link to the c3 model....works great for low light, close in work on hogs. ( dangerous game )

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Posted By: at2wooden
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 17:42
Thanks a ton.....
I appreciate you taking the time.
Will order tommorrow before they are all gone.
(I have a trade)


Posted By: tman1965
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 18:53

I think you will be pleased with your choice! good luck with them hogs! I hunt them here in Ga. and it can get "interesting" sometimes! If I can ever figure out how, I will post pics of a 475 pounder that took issue with my son.



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Posted By: at2wooden
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 21:49
Love to see those pics sometime, and hear the story that goes with them .
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm wild pig sausage :)


Posted By: Sapper524
Date Posted: November/14/2010 at 22:23
Trijicon 1-4 - worth checking out.  I have a couple Trijicon Accupoints and they dethroned my old trusty KOWA FFP Post 3-9 as my favorite hunting optic.

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: November/15/2010 at 08:43
I was thinking Accupoint up until he threw in the $300 limit. There are some very high end 1.5-6x scopes on samplelist but way over the price range.  The illuminated Accupoint Trijicon scopes really do seem to be the ticket for low light.  I think the next best would be this and I have one of these that I like.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Riflescope-P12756.aspx">Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
http://swfa.com/images/leupold_heavyduplex_popup.jpg">Heavy Duplex http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Riflescope-P12756.aspx - Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66810
  • Matte
  • Heavy Duplex
  • 1"
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$399.95
 It's only money----
http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P45017.aspx">Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
http://swfa.com/images/leupold_illum_duplex_popup.jpg"> http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P45017.aspx - Leupold 1.5-5x20 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU67830
  • Matte
  • Illuminated Duplex
  • 30mm
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$599.95
http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1-4x24-Accu-Point-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P12889.aspx">Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
http://swfa.com/images/trijicon_tr24r_popup.jpg">Red Triangle http://swfa.com/Trijicon-1-4x24-Accu-Point-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P12889.aspx - Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR24R
  • Matte
  • Red Triangle
  • 30mm
$779.95
and on the low side
http://swfa.com/Barska-15-6x42-Euro-30-Rifle-Scope-P5765.aspx">Barska 1.5-6x42 Euro-30 Rifle Scope
http://swfa.com/images/barska_4a_popup.jpg">4A http://swfa.com/Barska-15-6x42-Euro-30-Rifle-Scope-P5765.aspx - Barska 1.5-6x42 Euro-30 Rifle Scope
Stock # - AC10016
  • Matte
  • 4A
  • 30mm
  • Comes with 5/8" Rings
$64.95


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Posted By: jvr
Date Posted: November/15/2010 at 19:44
you might want to look at the millet 1x4 dms.  reasonable price and 1x  with a illuminated doughnut.  makes for easy (fast) shooting with both eyes open.  Not the finest glass but for the price it works well on my mini 14. (the trijicon is nicer; but more than 3x the cost)


Posted By: at2wooden
Date Posted: November/15/2010 at 21:14
Originally posted by at2wooden at2wooden wrote:

My ol' eyes ain't what they used to be, but I don't expect to need it for anything over 150 yds.
I had the Bushy 1.25-4, but needed a little more on the high side.

The glass should be of similar quality, and would have to have a good Fog / Rain coating.
And I don't want to spend more than $300.
 
I ordered the Vortex Viper 2-7X32mm with the C3 reticle today at $169.95.
It cost me $55 (including shipping) plus the trade in of my old scope.
I emailed trades dept & told them my scope was in the mail.
They relied right away, and said they'd hold a Viper for me.
That kinda customer service just keeps ya coming back!
 
Am hoping the quality of the glass on the Viper at least falls somewhere in the 3200 - 4200 range.
I'll keep you all posted when I get my new scope.


Posted By: grimreaper21
Date Posted: November/16/2010 at 00:01
definately a steal! Our resident Ilya commented in one of his reviews regarding viper vs 4200 that, the 4200 is ever so slightly better in resolution than the viper, and the viper better in contrast.  but I can't imagine that meaning the 4200 is $200 better (or more). In your case, $400 more since you got away paying $55. 



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