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COST - Fixed vs. Variable

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Topic: COST - Fixed vs. Variable
Posted By: TruthNtime
Subject: COST - Fixed vs. Variable
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 19:17
Top Secret 
Why do Fixed power scope models of the same brand and line cost more than there variable counterparts???  Seem's like the cost to add more lenses and moving parts would cost more initially, and through higher warranty cost's due to higher repair rates.  Just curious if any one knows technically why.  Have a good weekend guys!
Robert R.


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Posted By: tejas
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 19:35
I dont know why technically, but its irritating. I suspect it has to do with sales and marketing. Because they sell so many variable power scopes, compared to fixed power. They charge big for the fixed power because its like a specialty item.


Posted By: TruthNtime
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 20:07
That could well be the answer.  well, I guess we all need to start buying more fixed powers so the prices will come down!
Robert.


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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 20:30
which ones are you talking about?


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 20:54
Economies of scale.

ILya


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Posted By: TruthNtime
Date Posted: November/05/2010 at 21:43

I noticed the Bushnell Elite 3200 first, the 10x fixed is more than most of the lower to mid powered variable's.  Thought maybe there was no difference, but the 10x fixed has different turrets I believe.

Robert.


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Posted By: powderburn
Date Posted: November/06/2010 at 03:27
While I suspect Ilya is correct it is still a bit perplexing to me as this has not always been the case. The fixed 4x was a fixture for many years on most hunting rifles and I believe would still be viable if priced right. I really believe that a mfg such as redfield could do pretty well to put a 3x,4x and a 6x in their lineup in the $125 to $150 price point. Or maybe put a little better glass and coatings and sell them in the $200 price point. As a point of interest I pose the following hypothetical question:

If you could get vortex viper 4x or 6x for the same price would you buy it or a Diamondback 3-9 ?   You may sub any brand you want Bushy 4200/3200, Leupold vx-ii/vxi etc.


Posted By: tejas
Date Posted: November/06/2010 at 10:23
I agree. For some unknown reason Zeiss discontinued the 4X32 Conquest. Those were really good scopes IMO and costed the same as the 3-9X40. I have a Weaver Classic 4X38. Its an ok scope, but wish it had more options for reticle choices. I like the heavy duplex reticle you can get in the Leupold 6x42 but the glass is average and not worth the 400 bucks they cost. I think if fixed power scopes were more popular there would be more competition among optics companies.


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: November/06/2010 at 11:50
The  Leupold FX3 glass is much improved over the previous generation as it is the same glass as the new VX3.  IOR is much better glass though and you should be able to get a #4 reticle
http://swfa.com/IOR-4x32-Hunting-Rifle-Scope-P6742.aspx">IOR 4x32 Hunting Rifle Scope
http://swfa.com/images/ior_4a_popup.jpg">4A http://swfa.com/IOR-4x32-Hunting-Rifle-Scope-P6742.aspx - IOR 4x32 Hunting Rifle Scope
Stock # - 403240
  • Matte
  • 4A
  • 1"
$359.95


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: November/06/2010 at 18:10
You can also look at SS 6x& 10x both great scopes & still priced under $310.

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Posted By: philthygeezer
Date Posted: November/06/2010 at 22:48
Originally posted by tejas tejas wrote:

I agree. For some unknown reason Zeiss discontinued the 4X32 Conquest. Those were really good scopes IMO and costed the same as the 3-9X40. I have a Weaver Classic 4X38. Its an ok scope, but wish it had more options for reticle choices. I like the heavy duplex reticle you can get in the Leupold 6x42 but the glass is average and not worth the 400 bucks they cost. I think if fixed power scopes were more popular there would be more competition among optics companies.


I spoke with a Zeiss rep about this. They simply weren't selling the 4x models in volume. It's a crying shame.



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