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Topic: Remington under fire
Posted By: scooter65
Subject: Remington under fire
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 17:55
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2010-10-20-remington-700-trigger-cnbc_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip - http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2010-10-20-remington-700-trigger-cnbc_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip



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Posted By: 308 Sav
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 18:13
Sad story. All it makes me think of is what I was taught at a very young age.

Never point a loaded gun at anything you do not want to shoot, kill, or blow up and what is behind it.
All guns are to be treated as if they are loaded.

I never have relied on a safety and never will.




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Posted By: 308 Sav
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 18:14
For that matter I never trust someone else to hand me an unloaded weapon. I always clear one when handed to me.

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Gerald Baker


Posted By: lucytuma
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 18:17
Sad thing to have a family member killed in such away, but 99% of all accidents could be avoided if it weren't for human error.

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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 20:27
Even if this was not an election year, I would not believe a thing in the Lamestream press about firearms........
 
 


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Posted By: scooter65
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 20:33
This isn't a lamepress story.  CNBC has the broadcast of the story.


Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 20:55
I'm sorry, but it was her fault for failing to point the rifle in a safe direction.

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Posted By: XxCaMeLxxToSiSxX
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 21:48
Proper safety pratcices would save alot of "accidental" deaths.
SNIP
"Remington never instituted a recall of the five million Remington 700s already sold"
"But the customer complaints, and more than 75 lawsuits, have alleged the 700 is susceptible to firing without the trigger being pulled."
 
5 million sold and only 75 lawsuits ? I would have to say that if there were a true issue here you would see a larger percentage of lawsuits just my opinion though.


Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: October/20/2010 at 22:13
Boy, this is old news.  There was a trigger issue, it was dealt with, and the new triggers are much safer.  I remember this the first time, in 2002.

There is no substitute for proper gun safety.  I teach it to my 6 yoa son with his toy rifle.  To my son, that toy gun is always loaded.


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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 05:12
I did not know about the issue.  What I watched last night was very saddening.  In close to 40 years of owning an shooting Remington rifles I have never had an AD with one.  My only AD with any firearm was at the '88 PAC Fleet matches, I had a Navy owned Gold Cup go full auto on me and empty 5 round magazine.  Talk about timed fire. LOL!  But I can't blame the man that lost his son for hammering big green. But like other have said here ALWAYS keep the muzzle of a weapon pointed away from something you don't want to destroy.  


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Posted By: tman1965
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 05:59
Very sad story, but as has already been said several times...and is worth repeating again.. there is NO substitute for proper gun safety!


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 06:38
Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

I'm sorry, but it was her fault for failing to point the rifle in a safe direction.
AGREED


Posted By: scooter65
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 06:45
How many caught the 1 hour show last night on this?  There was a lot more to the story than just the little boy dying  (I agree with all of you that it was a mistake on her part).


Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 10:23
Im a little concerned myself, I own no 700 s   . Now I have a 5R coming in tomorrow and I have another model 700 that Ive bid on....
The show last night showed either military or police , sorry I cannot remember. Showed them setting the rifles off by touching the safety. NOT the trigger, it was not good.. Very dangerous, I was shocked....Perhaps these were older models? before they changed the triggers? Scooter was it before?


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 10:33
Don't read into it to much.  It is just a scare tactic being used by the media right before an election.  I have drop tested my 700several time.  Literally holding it waste high and letting it fall to the ground, an no problems at all. 

Front Sight the school I attend see's probably in the thousands of 700 rifles every year, and I have never heard them complain of those problems in the classes I have taken and they are pretty candid about problem guns they see.  Sure you will have the freak guns here and there, but they can be found in any make that has had a part wear out or a failure. 


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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 10:40
If you're getting a new rifle it will have the X-Mark Pro trigger, which is the new design. I wouldn't worry about either, personally. My LTR has the 40-X style trigger, which I actually prefer since it has vertical grooves in the trigger. It's set pretty light - 2.5 lbs- so I'm careful with it but have never had it go off unless I pulled the trigger.


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Reaction time is a factor...


Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 11:25
Big Grin Yep Guys the rifle will be here probably today!!!  Ok, I will not worry about it and just move on.. I still wish you guys had watched this show last night. It was pretty spooky to see someone just touch a safety and se the rifle go off.. Im not talking about 1 incident either.. They had lots of examples of this happening. People missing body parts, etc. etc.


Posted By: shooter07
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 11:32
I just got my SPS Tactical a month back and have had no problems or worries. It has the X-Mark Pro and was designed to compete with Savages Accu-trigger. I'm absolutely thrilled with how well it shoots thus far (its my most accurate rifle by a decent margin). Im sure there are a few lemons that came through the production lines over the years but this again is a major scare tactic in my opinion. People need to practice safe gun operating habits at all times as well. I do not keep my target or hunting rifles loaded in the house so there would be no reason for me to have to unload it before cleaning. Common sense goes a long way. 

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Posted By: shooter07
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 11:34
And why the hell would you allow someone to be in front of a loaded weapon like this woman did??? They knew it was loaded (in the house no less) and then the kid is standing in front when it goes off.




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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: October/21/2010 at 11:41
Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Don't read into it to much.  It is just a scare tactic being used by the media right before an election.  I have drop tested my 700several time.  Literally holding it waste high and letting it fall to the ground, an no problems at all. 

Front Sight the school I attend see's probably in the thousands of 700 rifles every year, and I have never heard them complain of those problems in the classes I have taken and they are pretty candid about problem guns they see.  Sure you will have the freak guns here and there, but they can be found in any make that has had a part wear out or a failure. 


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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: October/23/2010 at 14:45
In the early days of the trigger problem one of the triger assembly pins was over length. If you flipped the safety it could scrape the pin, move and release the sear, allowing the rifle to discharge. Slightly filing the length so the safety did not scrape the pin cured the problem.

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Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: tjtjwdad
Date Posted: October/23/2010 at 22:11
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Boy, this is old news.  There was a trigger issue, it was dealt with, and the new triggers are much safer.  I remember this the first time, in 2002.

There is no substitute for proper gun safety.  I teach it to my 6 yoa son with his toy rifle.  To my son, that toy gun is always loaded.
Agreed...this is old news.


Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: October/24/2010 at 01:30
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Even if this was not an election year, I would not believe a thing in the Lamestream press about firearms........
 
 
 
 
read the above  


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: October/24/2010 at 09:48
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Even if this was not an election year, I would not believe a thing in the Lamestream press about firearms........
 
 
 
 
read the above  


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: November/15/2010 at 11:12
Remingtons reply.




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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: GetSome
Date Posted: November/15/2010 at 17:15
Nice video, pretty much what we all knew, glad this is out.  Don't own a single Remington, but hope to some day...Keep on Keepin on Remington.

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