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Topic: Short vs long action
Posted By: qball
Subject: Short vs long action
Date Posted: September/04/2010 at 13:18
Help for a newbie looking at bases and rings for my savage model 12 and I keep seeing short and long action options.  Is this based on cartridge length?  Mine is 22-250 but I think it's called a short action (I would have thought it's a long).  Right now considering Leupold bases and rings for my Vortex 6.5-20X44. I'm guessing medium height should work?

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Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/04/2010 at 13:32
Yes yours is most likely a short action. On Savages the model number tells you, if you have a 2 digit number,i.e. 10,11,12 ect. it is a short action. If a 3 digit no. i.e. 110,111,112 it is a long- action.

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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/04/2010 at 13:35
I would look at Talley light-weight one piece ring and mounts for that rifle.
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: qball
Date Posted: September/04/2010 at 14:12
Ok...next question. Besides weight saving (it's already pretty heavy), would steel be better for a target/varmint gun. I won't be packing it around so extra weight is not a big deal

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Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/04/2010 at 14:16
Sure, if you want. The rings I recommended are really top notch, and not heavy at all. 

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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 07:26
Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Sure, if you want. The rings I recommended are really top notch, and not heavy at all. 
+1 on billy's recomendation


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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 07:37
 +2   You can go with steel but why do multiple pieces?

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Posted By: qball
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 08:14
Thanks for the advice...are the Talleys adjustable for windage?

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I wouldn't be paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me.


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 11:02
Windage adjustable rings and bases are not reliable IMO. They tend to get broke or put to much stress on the scope tube. If you go with well manufactured bases and rings, you shouldn't have any windage problems.

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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 11:17
Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Windage adjustable rings and bases are not reliable IMO. They tend to get broke or put to much stress on the scope tube. If you go with well manufactured bases and rings, you shouldn't have any windage problems.
Only if they are not properly used...

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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 11:43
With Talley's the only time I've heard of windage issues is when the mounting holes were misdrilled in the action.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 11:59

Imperfect quality in drilling the holes happens more often than one would imagine...

Divorces have occurred because of it....

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

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Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: September/05/2010 at 12:22
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Windage adjustable rings and bases are not reliable IMO. They tend to get broke or put to much stress on the scope tube. If you go with well manufactured bases and rings, you shouldn't have any windage problems.
Only if they are not properly used...
But since the scope mentioned has target knobs, why take the chance?


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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?



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