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Topic: VXIII or Redfield
Posted By: 03mossy
Subject: VXIII or Redfield
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 08:06
great site you guys have I look forward to being here! I need help with a decision on a scope for my new 700sps varmint 22-250(p-dogs, yotes, targets). I can get a used (lightly) VXIII 4.5-14x40 for $400 or should I try a new Redfield 4-12x40 for $200? or something else all together? I need to keep the price down because I gotta get enough reloading components to stock up for a prairie dog hunt in july.thanks for the thoughts!



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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 08:24
you could try a nikon buckmaster or a vortex diamondback.

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:23
I have been trying to get info on the new redfield from them.  Dont' know what their Accu Range reticle is calibrated for.  Koskin did a write up about it and a few others and it was so so but he did notice a POI change in magnification so you may wanna look at something else.  There is a Vortex Crossfire on backorder that would be great for you but you may not wanna wait that long. 


Posted By: 03mossy
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:28
which model viper are you refering to?
 
this 3200 might be worth taking a look at closer
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx - http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:32
I'm not sure about the price of the VXIII.... but I think it's a pretty nice scope.... quite a bit better than the Redfield!

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Posted By: The Apostle
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:38
Originally posted by 03mossy 03mossy wrote:

3200 might be worth taking a look at closer
 
Psst! How about a 4200? Give this one some thought! Wink
 
 
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-4-16x40-Elite-4200-Rifle-Scope-P11606.aspx - http://swfa.com/Bushnell-4-16x40-Elite-4200-Rifle-Scope-P11606.aspx


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:40
Originally posted by 03mossy 03mossy wrote:

which model viper are you refering to?
 
this 3200 might be worth taking a look at closer
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx - http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx
 
Crossfire
 
http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx
Vortex 6-24x50 Crossfire Rifle Scope
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Posted By: John Barsness
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:47
A POI shift in one test scope isn't indicative of that being a problem in EVERY scope of that make. The Redfield I tested didn't shift, and neither have several other scopes that friends have tested. And I have found POI shifts in many individual scopes retailing for $500 or less, even though most of the scopes didn't show any. The thing to do with any new scope is check it out ASAP and if there's a problem, contact the manufacturer. As a for instance, I have found POI shifts in both Sightron SII Big Skys and Bushnell 4200s within the past year, though that is hardly a constant problem with either brand.
 
 


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 09:58
Thanks John, I didn't know if it was on all but knew from that review he noticed it so I mentioned it.

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 10:21
http://redfield.com/riflescopes/redfield-accu-range-cartridge-groups - http://redfield.com/riflescopes/redfield-accu-range-cartridge-groups
I just got a response from Redfield about their accu-range reticle and figured I would share it. 
"Use the above chart to figre out what your shooting.  Put that in a Ballisitcis Calculator and figure that is going to be the "drop" for the reticle. Now plug in your intended load to the BC and see the difference.  You will very rarely find a round/load that is exact to the reticle.  And we do not have the information on the load that was used in development."
 
From what i got from that and trying that method, my 223 shooting a heavy 70+gr bullet would be the same at the 40gr they use out to 500 yrds where they are 1 MOA off.  I may go ahead and try the new Redfield and do an indepth review for the heck of it..

Hope this helps with the redfield info vs the vxiii


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Posted By: 03mossy
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 12:07
thanks for all the quick reply's! great site. I thought after the head scrathing for months on which rifle and caliber i was going to get the confusion would be over! guess not with all the scope models out there to choose from


Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 12:55
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Posted By: medic52
Date Posted: March/03/2010 at 21:16
I went ahead and bought a Redfield 2x7x33 to try(on a rimfire)....well for the amount of money that it cost I can not really complain. So far it has held zero, it boxed exactly as it should. It's not a VX-III quality, but in all fairness for the money I feel that it is a GOOD BUY. As a matter of fact I am going to try the 4x12x40 on a 22 Hornet...........

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Posted By: 03mossy
Date Posted: March/08/2010 at 16:37
http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx
I've always believed that you get what you pay for when it comes to hunting gear, well with anything for that matter. I just find this scope in the "to good to be true" catagory. if it is really a quality scope i will be happy with why is it only $99. It is just so tempting at that price...


Posted By: hometheaterman
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 22:49
There is no comparison between the VX-III and Redfield. The VX-III is the far superior scope. 


Posted By: medic52
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 22:55
Originally posted by 03mossy 03mossy wrote:

http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx
I've always believed that you get what you pay for when it comes to hunting gear, well with anything for that matter. I just find this scope in the "to good to be true" catagory. if it is really a quality scope i will be happy with why is it only $99. It is just so tempting at that price...
You get what you pay for.....you bought a good gun do yourself a favor and go for the best glass you can buy......

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Posted By: Dirtyoldsix
Date Posted: February/02/2012 at 03:34
I have a 4.5-14x40 Lr (30 mm) VXIII. Its got the fine duplex and side focus and I think its the best scope I have ever owned.

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Posted By: preacherman
Date Posted: February/07/2012 at 18:21
I don't  know about that. I have a .338 win mag and have heard nothing but good about the revenge scope.
I did the beer math and with a .338/225gr load of around 2850 the BDC works perfectly well With the
7 mag or 30-06 270 win family of ballistics out to 400 you are fine.

I plan to mount one on my  long range  338 Winchester mag match rifle for 1000 yd comp it does just as well as any other scope made by Leupold.


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Posted By: preacherman
Date Posted: February/07/2012 at 19:41
By the way Leupold and Redfields are all tested with a 375 H&H level weapon. So no worry's about shooting loose. I just put a timney trigger in my comp long ranger  WHAT AN AWESOME TRIGGER and all I can say is WOW I recommend em wholeheartedly.  Yippee

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: February/07/2012 at 19:53
For prairie dogs I think the Super Sniper 20x or the 16x fixed power would be a good choice with the tactical knobs, but that is way to high of a power for called coyotes where you need to be at 6x or lower.
One of my friends just bought the redfield 4-12x40 and he is really happy with it.  I got a good look at it and think it is a lot of scope for the price.   Not sure if you are using an AR but even if not I would probably pay the extra to get the mount and then sell it for more.
http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44473.aspx" rel="nofollow">Redfield 4-12x40 Revolution Rifle Scope http://swfa.com/images/redfield_accurange_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow"> http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44473.aspx" rel="nofollow -
  • Comes with Redfield ScopeSmith Scope Cover
  • $259.95 

     
    http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-Kit-P47564.aspx" rel="nofollow">Redfield 4-12x40 Revolution Rifle Scope Kit http://swfa.com/images/redfield_accurange_popup.jpg" rel="nofollow"> http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-Kit-P47564.aspx" rel="nofollow -
  • Comes with SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm / 1" Scope Mount & Redfield ScopeSmith Scope Cover
  • $269.95  
     
     


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    Posted By: 03mossy
    Date Posted: February/08/2012 at 14:19
    Well since this was my thread that got brought back to life from 2 years ago I will update it on what happened. I saved a while longer, sold a shotgun and went all out and ended up with this..http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P12733.aspx And could not be happier! I absolutly love it. and the Varmint hunters reticle is simply a joy to use. After a few shots on a dog town to figure out the exact yardage they were, its amazing how consistant you can be. My farthest kill was 585yards! on the second shot!


    Posted By: preacherman
    Date Posted: February/08/2012 at 15:54
    The new redfield revenge has a specific scope the varmint hunters 6-16 power it has a totally differently calibrated rangefinder for varmint critters check it out before you spend more than 219

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    Posted By: Ernie Bishop
    Date Posted: February/08/2012 at 16:19
    Good for you.
    I have several VX-3's and they have been good scopes.


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