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Kahles 8x42 grey

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Forum Description: Anything that requires two eyes to look through it
Printed Date: January/19/2019 at 02:46

Topic: Kahles 8x42 grey
Posted By: DAVE44
Subject: Kahles 8x42 grey
Date Posted: February/25/2010 at 18:37
What would you pay for a good Like new pair of Kahles 8x42? I know the Zen Ray ED 2 is probably better optically but those Kahles should be optically nice and they are very solid feeling. I would say they are more durable for carrying through the woods. If I dont get them Im going to try the Zen ED 2 7x36 model.

Posted By: Klamath
Date Posted: February/25/2010 at 19:49
The Kahles is a nice glass, and well built.  However, when you compare the depth of field of the 7x36 ZEN ED and its 477' fov to the very nice, but very narrow 330' of the Kahles, you are quite apt to put the Kahles down.  The difference in the wide deep 477' 7x fov and even a very good narrow 330' 8x field has to be seen to be described.  The difference is vast. Lesser magnification=greater depth of field.  Practical difference in 7x and 8x for showing detail is slim at best.

"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted". William Bruce Cameron

Posted By: DAVE44
Date Posted: February/25/2010 at 19:56
Yes, a wide field FOV is nice. Im sure that you believe the Zens have bette optics in every way. I was just thinking that the Kahles might be more rugged and take knocks and bumps better and still be optically suficient. What price would be fair for those Kahles binos?

Posted By: anweis
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 09:40
I would not buy the Kahles. I have not compared the Kahles to the Zen, but i have to other binoculars in it's class and price range, about 5 years ago. I remember two things: it did not stand out in any way. It did not have the sharpest, brightest, or widest view, or anything.
Sight unseen, i would buy the Zen, for reasons mentioned above. Besides, does anyone still service the Kahles, should they need repair? 
Or, i would not buy the Kahles for more than $200, because that is what it is worth if compared to todays's offerings.

Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 10:51
I have a Kahles 10X42 (also in gray).  It is a tough binocular, with a silky smooth focuser.  I would classify image quality as o.k., but not spectacular, not nearly what I would expect from the brand and the original retail price.  I have compared them to numerous binoculars in all price range.  I would say they are comparable to other bins in the $400 range.  So, maybe $300 - $400 is a fair price; I don't know.  What I can tell you is that chromatic aberration is not very well controlled for binoculars in their original retail price range.

They aren't bad binoculars, but in light of what you can get for $300 - $500 these days, they fall short, in my opinion.  I think the aforementioned Zen Rays are better in every measureable way.  My only knock against the Zens is I don't like the fact they're made in China, but avoiding stuff made in China is damn near impossible any more.

The Kahles bins may indeed be built tougher; I don't know.  Then again, maybe not.


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Posted By: DAVE44
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 10:54
Thanks guys!

Posted By: NDhunter
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 11:05
I had the 8x42 Kahles for several years, and thought it was a high quality mid-range
binocular.  I would recommend it and think it fits in well at its price point.
It seems they often bring $400-500 on the used market place.

Posted By: Blackbird
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 15:00
I have a pair of the Kahles 8x42 (grey) and I like them very much, but I never have compared them to the Zens. I feel that the Kahles are very solid, and well built.

Posted By: DAVE44
Date Posted: February/27/2010 at 06:33
Well, I probably will go ahead and try the Zens and If I can talk the price down to $350.00 on the Kahles I may get those too to compare. If I like the Zens I can sell the Kahles for about that much I think and If I prefer the Kahles I can return/refund the Zens.
    I suppose you think the Kahles is a step above the Leupold Pinnacles. The Pinnacles can be had around $400.00 also.

Posted By: Blackbird
Date Posted: February/27/2010 at 10:08
I bought my Kahles quite a few years ago, so I can't compare them to any new models, of any manufacturer. I am very satisfied with the Austrian manufactured Kahles.

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