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Topic: CFII's Handgun
Posted By: Chris Farris II
Subject: CFII's Handgun
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:05
Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

Happy 21st Birthday nephew!  Enjoy your well deserved day off tomorrow.  I'm gonna buy you any pistol you want and Andrea is gonna pay for your CHL.  Hope you had a wonderful birthday weekend bro.
 
Cheers
What and why?

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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:15
It will be used mainly for plinking, truck gun, and carry on occasion.

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:37
So, what handgun are you gonna get, Christopher?
 
Needless to say, that is extremely generous of your uncle!


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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:40
Well I don't know yet. Initally I wanted either a Sig .40 or a XD M .40. But that is why I started this thread to get everyones opinions...

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Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:57
SIG 229


Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 11:59
Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

SIG 229
Why?

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:05
IMO don't get a Sig unless you get the double action only.  There is no point in having to learn two trigger pulls of a DA/SA gun.  In reality it will take 2 to 3 times as long to learn to run a DA/SA as well as a gun with a consistent trigger pull every time.  No need to handicap yourself right from the get go by having to fight two trigger pulls.

A 1911, Glock, XD, M&P, some H&K variations all have the same pull every time. 

The XDM is a nice pistol, I have 2 of them.  But if I were just to have a single pistol it would be a 1911.  As nice as the XDs and Glocks are I always go back to my 1911 as my favorite.  Nothing beats the feel of that single action trigger and the way they point in. 


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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:08
I HATE glock triggers and I love the way the XD shoots. Never shot a 1911 before. I also like the way the h&K shoots.

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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:16












With an offer like that, I wouldn't "take advantage", but I'd get something you'd be proud to own and carry for the rest of your life.


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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:24
I completely agree Rancid. I am not treating it as the fact that I can get whatever but rather that I still plan on getting what i would get if I was buying it. I still plan on buying one. I really do believe my List would be. Starting with the original list the marking out what I have decided against in the past year or two.
 
Glock- Hate the trigger pull.
 
Colt 1911 Nice and I do like them but will probably hold off for a later day. Gramps has an entire collection..
 
2 Sig Like them
 
XD Decided on the M instead
 
 1 XD M My favorite out of the bunch
 
3 H&K Like them but probably 3rd on my list...


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:25
The 1911 and the XD have the same grip angle so they will point in the exact same.  If you like the XD, I bet you will like the 1911 even more.  A Wilson or a Nighthawk Custom would be about as good as you could get.  But they are 4 to 6 times what an XD would cost.  Ohh how I would love to have one.

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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:26
im not much of a pistol guy but the h&k usp has been the best "feeling" pistol ive ever held. i have smaller hands so the h&k fits very nice,the 1911's were to wide  for my comfort. i would just take my time and do some hands on research and make sure you get the one that will not only fit well but function well.

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:38
Sounds like you have made up your mind.  The XDM is a better pistol than the Sig.  I had one for a while and IMO just does not even compare with the XDM.  Then as I said the whole DA/SA thing is just a pain. 

The only thing I struggle with with the XDM is the slide lock.  I ride my thumbs high instead of down on the grip because I am use to holding it ontop of the safety on the 1911.  Every once and a while my thumb will hit the slide lock on the XDM during recoil and the slide locks back.  In reality that is a pretty bad problem to have, so I have to hold it differently than I hold the 1911.  Other than that I think the M is a fantastic pistol.  I probably have 4000 rounds through one of mine 1000 through the other and have never had a single stoppage other than the self induced I state before.  They are good pistols.


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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:41
Do you want polymer frame or alloy frame?
 
If you want a .40, I'd get one of the following:
1.  Sig P250 (polymer frame)
2.  Sig P226 (alloy frame full size)
3.  Sig P229 (alloy frame mid size)
4.  Springfield XDM
5.  Glock 23
6.  S&W M&P
7.  H&K USP
 
All of the above are nice, well-made pistols.  I would choose based on which one seems to fit your hands ergonomically and which one has the operating system you prefer --"safe" action w/ trigger safety, i.e. Glock & XDM, DA, SA, or DAO.  The H&K USP offers you the option of  configuring the pistol for different firing modes (DA/SA/DAO).  The XDM and P250 give you the option of different grip profiles.  I've been hearing great things about the S&W M&P from owners lately.  A co-worker of mine told me he prefers it to his Glocks and Sigs.  The grip width of the alloy frame double stack model Sigs can be too thick for some operators, though I find them to be very comfortable.  Glock seems to be a "love it or hate it" pistol, but it is quick to deploy and quite compact for its capacity. 
 
Any of the above will be reliable and shoot well if they fit you ergonomically.  If a pistol doesn't feel "right" in your hands, you aren't likely to shoot it well, so if at all possible, it's a good idea to handle and preferably shoot the pistols you're considering before buying.


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 12:53
I agree somewhat with what Supertool said about DAO instead of DA/SA mode.  Keep in mind if you do go with Doug's recommendation of the P226, it is available in a DAO version (called "DAK" - "double action Kellerman"). 
 
I think it's hard to beat a 1911, but you already ruled that out, and some, like me, aren't too fond of "cocked and locked" mode of carry.


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 13:05
In reality the XD(m) is cocked and locked too, it just does not have the hammer.  Still the striker is locked all the way back and the trigger releases it.  They both have two safety's.  Both have grip, 1911 has thumb, the XD has trigger.

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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 13:06
Of course now they have came out with the Xd that also has a thumb safety.  Roll Eyes

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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 13:37

A 1911 is not the most "easy-to-carry" handgun, and I recommend you not even consider one unless you plan on getting some professional instruction and you plan to shoot it often and dedicate yourself to understanding how it works and how to handle/control it.


For ease of use, Sig and HK are hard to beat.  I've owned a few Sigs and a few HKs; I now only have the HK45 and will have it for quite some time: great feel, points well, controls well, everything is where it should be, and it is accurate.


I've shot a few XDs and like them.


If you plan to carry concealed, consider this (source is a Fed LE friend), the FBI has determined that if someone takes your (in a stressful situation, like a struggle):

If the gun has no external safety, you have approximately 3 seconds to recover the gun before the taker can discharge a round (or the first round.)

If the gun has an external safety, you have approximately 17 seconds to recover the gun before the taker can discharge a round (or the first round.)


I have friends who have said, "I would never let my gun be taken", and I have taken their gun from each of them (when they weren't expecting it.)  Every gun I carry (except a Kahr PM40 that rides in my front pocket) has an external safety.  I like 17 seconds MUCH MORE than 3 seconds.


I don't think you would be disappointed with Sig, HK, or XD.  And if there is something you don't like about texture or grip angle, there are MANY shops that specialize in customizing your plastic frame.






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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:11
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Do you want polymer frame or alloy frame?
 
If you want a .40, I'd get one of the following:
1.  Sig P250 (polymer frame)
2.  Sig P226 (alloy frame full size)
3.  Sig P229 (alloy frame mid size)
4.  Springfield XDM
5.  Glock 23
6.  S&W M&P
7.  H&K USP
 
All of the above are nice, well-made pistols.  I would choose based on which one seems to fit your hands ergonomically and which one has the operating system you prefer --"safe" action w/ trigger safety, i.e. Glock & XDM, DA, SA, or DAO.  The H&K USP offers you the option of  configuring the pistol for different firing modes (DA/SA/DAO).  The XDM and P250 give you the option of different grip profiles.  I've been hearing great things about the S&W M&P from owners lately.  A co-worker of mine told me he prefers it to his Glocks and Sigs.  The grip width of the alloy frame double stack model Sigs can be too thick for some operators, though I find them to be very comfortable.  Glock seems to be a "love it or hate it" pistol, but it is quick to deploy and quite compact for its capacity. 
 
Any of the above will be reliable and shoot well if they fit you ergonomically.  If a pistol doesn't feel "right" in your hands, you aren't likely to shoot it well, so if at all possible, it's a good idea to handle and preferably shoot the pistols you're considering before buying.
The Sig P250 is at the top of my list. My mom being in law enforcement owns several sigs, she swears by them. I will be test fitting and firing her sigs if I don't get another sig other than the P250 then  next will be a XD M in .40. I have had one on order since mid September.

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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:12
I don't like the 1911 as a carry gun personally. If I did buy one it would be out of my Grampas 1911 Collection anyways...

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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:39
Hey Ted Check this out..

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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:40


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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:40
Now next I gotta decide on the XD M or an H&K. Leanng Heavily towards the XDM

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:43
That is a nice looking sig.  With their newer double action triggers that are actually quite nice in the pull weight, that would be my choice of the sig as well.  

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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: Duce
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 15:49
I think Rifle Dude made a very good point with the feel of a pistol, if it does not fit your hand and feel right you will wind up not liking it no mater how good the quality is. Pistols are a very personal fit thing try as many as you can for as many shots as you can. Some just are natural and some are just wrong and you will never learn to like the ones that dont feel right.
 
Duce  Sub Machinegun 


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Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 16:12
I was choosing the SIG out of the two listed. I much prefer the handling of the 229 over the XD. The reliability of the SIG is second to none. Also, if you are concerned at all about DA/SA, get the DAK.
I also own Glocks and HK USP's. I would take these over all the others because I have never had a problem with either. Since you don't like the Glock trigger I would look at the HK. I personally like the compact USP, but the full size is a tank. They both carry under a shirt that is loose with proper leather.
The HK with their DAO is sweet. I have changed the triggers on mine a few times and that is one of the nice things about them, they are truly modular. There are many add ons available. They are also extremely rugged. My .45 has shot the .45 Super without a hitch.


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 16:17
XDM is a good gun, especially if your primary objective is laying down a field of fire.

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Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 16:54
CF-II, don't overlook the S&W M&P.  I would certainly try it alongside the P250, XDM, and USP.  I haven't shot one, but the ones I've handled felt nice.  I liked the grip contours.  Every comment I've heard about these pistols have been very positive, and a whole bunch of police depts around the country have converted over to them.
 
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=27806&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y - http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=27806&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y
 


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 16:57
Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

CF-II, don't overlook the S&W M&P.  I would certainly try it alongside the P250, XDM, and USP.  I haven't shot one, but the ones I've handled felt nice.  I liked the grip contours.  Every comment I've heard about these pistols have been very positive, and a whole bunch of police depts around the country have converted over to them.
 
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=27806&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y - http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=27806&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y
 


I have shot them a little, I think they felt great as well.  It had one of those triggers that stung my finger on recoil though.  A serrated Glock trigger does teh same thing to me.  I put smooth triggers on my 23s when I had them to stop that from happening. 

I have shot a lot of different pistols and so far those are the only two that did that to me. 


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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

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Posted By: Chris Farris II
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 16:59
I have heard complaints as to the balance of the smith in .40 not even .45 sayin that the balance was off and resulted in "wrist ache" while shooting. You have any say so in this Jason?

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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 17:04
I have only shot about 100 rounds out of one in two shooting sessions, but I did not notice that.  But I may not have shot it long enough to see that happen.

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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 17:11
I love the Glocks (however, my triggers have been "worked"), but a friend let me shoot his Sig 229 a couple of times at IDPA.  Really nice.  His was in 9mm and I normally shoot .357Sig, but really liked the "feel" of the 229.  Had a very good shooting day with it...  Really nothing about it I didn't like. 

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Posted By: Duce
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 17:55
This is a great handgun with a good feel
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y - http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y
But it has been know to cause some wrist fatigue espically with the 300gr bullets, but very nice with the 45 LC
Duce  Smile


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 17:56
Roll on Floor Laughing


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Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 18:47
Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

This is a great handgun with a good feel
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y - http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y
But it has been know to cause some wrist fatigue espically with the 300gr bullets, but very nice with the 45 LC
Duce  Smile


Shocked


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 18:54
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I love the Glocks (however, my triggers have been "worked"), but a friend let me shoot his Sig 229 a couple of times at IDPA.  Really nice.  His was in 9mm and I normally shoot .357Sig, but really liked the "feel" of the 229.  Had a very good shooting day with it...  Really nothing about it I didn't like. 


I have a 229 .40 and have been very happy with mine.  It's very comfortable to shoot and is well balanced.  Mine is SA/DA.  I sometimes wish I'd gotten DAK instead, but I've got no complaints about the trigger quality or the accuracy I get from it.


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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: swtucker
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 18:57
I've been avoiding XD's...perhaps I should reconsider?  Is there one that is better than the others? 


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 18:58
Well, there is always the 460 Nitro Express revolver... that should pretty much do it...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 19:33
Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

This is a great handgun with a good feel
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y - http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5301&return=Y
But it has been know to cause some wrist fatigue espically with the 300gr bullets, but very nice with the 45 LC
Duce  Smile


I have that gun and I hate it!  I'd almost rather be eaten by a bear than shoot that thing.  BUT, if a hungry bear is inbound, nothing makes the point that the .454 does (especially with a 2.5 inch barrel.)  I took a friend with me to an indoor range to shoot it and told him not to watch me (he would'a seen me flinch) but to watch everyone else.  I lit off a round (in a concrete indoor range) and EVERYONE put their weapon down and stepped away from the bench.  It is a beast with one hell of a bark - and bite.


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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 21:53
               HK USP



Bandito


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 22:08
9 Megawatt...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: October/27/2009 at 22:43



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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 02:26
That is a very generous offer.  I have carried pistols most of my life and I have owned many of them.  I will suggest something that the others have not.  I suggest you go with a Smith and Wesson 629  44 mag  and I like the 4 inch barrel and have carried it on duty and concealed. I have also had them in 6 1/2 and 8 3/8.  One of the nicest ones I have ever seen though is the one the performance center makes like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144722093 - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144722093   <====<<<<Thunbs Up
 


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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 02:37
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144559060 - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144559060  This one should be about a $3500 pistol in the right market place.   Dont you dare ask him for this.
 
What the hell are these doing in Pennsylvania?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144229464 - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144229464
 
Devil


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"Always do the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do".
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Texas Ranger


Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 04:52
Sorry you hate the Glock trigger CFII, if you don't want a 1911 to carry the Glock 23 is the ticket. Like American Express never leave home without it.!  Wink 

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Posted By: BillyWayne
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 07:48
I carry the Glock 32 with an IWB tuckable holster.  It is easier to conceal and more comfortable than my Sig 229.  The Glock is easy maintenance.  The Sig feels better in my hand and is a nice range gun.  At first I did not like the Glock trigger.  But now I like it very much after some trigger time.  I guess you need to decide if you are going to carry this gun, and what method you are going to carry.  Try out a few combinations to see what is comfortable for you and what gun fits better.  If it is a range gun...well that is different.  I like revolvers a lot and would like a Colt Python.  S&W also has some nice revolvers.  Are you going to use this gun for competition?  Again, the approach would be different here.  Just my 3 and a half cents.....

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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 09:50
Hard to beat a finely tuned 1911, Chris.    


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 10:03
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Hard to beat a finely tuned 1911, Chris.    
 
or a mil-spec 1911-A1........................


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 10:41
I learned to shoot with a Glock, so I like them, but I did modify the trigger a bit.  Still, I like the short reset of the Glock and it works well for me.

As a general observation, get the gun that fits your hand the best.

As much as I like my Glock 31, Sig P220 still fits my hand better.  As far as reliability goes, it is hard to fault a Sig or a Glock.

On DA/SA issue: this is a personal thing.  My Sig has exceptionally smooth DA trigger pull and I have never been bothered by the transition. YMMV

On 1911s:  I have never seen one that fits my hand.  I keep on hearing about how they got more reliable, but since it does not fit my hand well, I do not care.

On XDs: the comment above on 1911s applies here.  Does not fit my hand at all.

Revolvers: I like revolvers, but I would go with 357Mag/38Special.  More versatility than 44Mag and cheaper ammo

S&W M&P:  Having had a few encounters with S&W Sigma, I insist on every S&W semiauto having ten years of trouble free existence on the market before I touch it.  I do own some S&W stock so I generally encourage people to buy S&W products.

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Posted By: Bitterroot Bulls
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 11:02
What a problem to have!
 
Sig, HK, Springfield, and S&W are all great companies that make great guns.
 
I have owned defensive pistols from Sig and S&W.  However, when I go to work, I put the same Glock 22 in my holster that I have for the past 8 years.  Why? because when I squeeze that glock trigger, it goes BANG.  Every time, for the past 10,000 plus rounds.
 
That glock trigger grew quickly on me as well.
 
For whatever pistol you choose, check out Trijicon "Operator" night sights.  They are quick on target, night or day!
 
 


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 11:19
Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

 
That glock trigger grew quickly on me as well.


That was my experience with Glock triggers as well.  Hated them at first, but once I used one for a while, I decided they are not bad at all.


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Posted By: Duce
Date Posted: October/28/2009 at 11:29
I have am XD in 45cal and a Ruger Alaskan in 454 both fit my hand great, the Alaskan is a perfect fit. It does bark and bite but I like it. A side benefit if you are shooting indoors after a few rounds you have the place to your self. With the 45 long colt the Alaskan is easy on the wrist not so with the 454. It is all about what feels right when you hold and fire. I have friends that shoot that don`t like either gun because of the hand fit.
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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: October/29/2009 at 00:23
I turned up my nose as Glocks for years and carried Sig P220   & P229  and H&k  P9s and I will say the H&K shoots very well. However my issued duty gun is a Glock 22 and I am very impressed with the finish not rusting considering the abuse we put them through.  I usually carry a Glock 35 off duty.  I still think a S&W 29 is a pistol that will last you a lifetime - its made of real metal and if you hit something with it what you hit will go down.  I carry the Glock more based on the idea that I can demonstrate training proficency with it  and I use the same ammo the State issues so there are no questions why I did other than the dept but when I go to the farm I take the  4 in  629 because 44 mag works

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Posted By: Trays 7940
Date Posted: October/29/2009 at 03:19
Hey ChrisII, Congrats!   Iam going to be the opposite of most on this... I carry and shoot the Sig 226, I think I showed it to ya last month... I can't stand the Sigs, sorry guys.  The trigger pull is too long and forget a good double tap, it aint happening.  It has a large butt and having a high capacity mag  makes the barrel end, which is to short anyway, to feel light- which, to me causes the gun to be poorly balanced.  However, mine is a stock pistol and I am unable to modify it.  If you go for the Sig I would suggest:
The 226X-5... It feels like a 1911 in your hand... well balanced and accurate as all get out.. Capable of sub-two inch groups at 50 yards, I have a buddy who shoots one in compitetions... its a great weapon.  JMO!!!  Congrats again and good luck!!!


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Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: October/30/2009 at 20:51

I would chime in and say that I had carried both the M-9 / Beretta 92FS and the 229/226 SIGS and the H&K MK23 and USP VARIANTS...

I have 4 carry guns stateside...
 
P239 Sig 40S&W SLIM 8RD+ STAINLESS STEEL WITH DECOCKER
H&K P200SK 40S&W VERY SHORT VERY LIGHT POLYMER WITH DECOCKER 10RD+
BROWNING BDA HAS DECOCKER (BERETTA 84 DOES NOT) NICKEL SO NO RUST 13RD+
 
HERE IS THE KICKER
 
CZ P06 40S&W ONE OF THE MOST NATURALLY POINTING GUNS ON THE MARKET HANDS DOWN...
 
NOT AS COMPACT AS THE OTHERS BUT IS THE BEST ON THE MARKET AS FAR AS POINT AND SHOOT WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED CARRYING HER.  SHE IS THE MOST ACCURATE OUT OF THE BOX AND HAS GONE THROUGH THE NATO TRIALS....
 
Sorry about shouting CAPS was on.
 
Anywho I have shot a bunch and done a lot of point shooting and sight shooting but the CZ is the best they have made thus far.  Again P-06 from CZ-USA night sights included and she is a shooter.  I will buy it if you don't like it and then I will give it back to you cause you will regret it...
 
Also on a side note you cannot go wrong on a glock...They are not as naturally of a pointer but they will do the job... 
 
Look up ADCO on Youtube and see his video of the glock 21 test also http://www.youtube.com/user/schapman43 - schapman43 ...
 
Anyhow the CZ is worth its weight in PLATINUM... They are the only throurghly abused pistol on the market today that has gone through this NATO testing and passed...Yes, while others will argue and grip they have not been proven or had one in their hands.  The groups you get will make you better than you are with this pistol it is just that natural...


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Posted By: Preston
Date Posted: October/30/2009 at 22:53
Wilson Combat 1911 .45

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Posted By: Preston
Date Posted: October/30/2009 at 23:01
Sig P220
http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=94 - http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=94
Sig P220 SAO (Single-action only) with ambidextrous thumb safety
  http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=151 - http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=151
Sig P220 DAK(double-action only) http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=93 - http://sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=6&productid=93


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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: October/31/2009 at 00:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJ5b-1PFjA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJ5b-1PFjA     416 Rigby Encore pistol
http://www.bullberry.com/ - http://www.bullberry.com/


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Posted By: Preston
Date Posted: October/31/2009 at 01:16
45-70 Encore pistol...

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Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: October/31/2009 at 09:31
Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

It will be used mainly for plinking, truck gun, and carry on occasion.
each objective has advantages over the other, you've ruled out serious concealed weapons carry, and unless you can do an El presidente in under 12 seconds the choice doesn't really matter, get the best looking one. (or if Chris is buying the most expensive) --a truck gun has the advantage of "extra power" above a major caliber type something in the 300 momentum class, so a heavy revolver would be good, these can be down loaded to reasonable "plinking" levels and in the big revolver are a real joy. But it sounds like you need the all american, found in every truck in the nation, shooting range, fun and inexpensive 'Ruger mark semi-auto.


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: October/31/2009 at 13:11
Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

It will be used mainly for plinking, truck gun, and carry on occasion.
each objective has advantages over the other, you've ruled out serious concealed weapons carry, and unless you can do an El presidente in under 12 seconds the choice doesn't really matter, get the best looking one. (or if Chris is buying the most expensive) --a truck gun has the advantage of "extra power" above a major caliber type something in the 300 momentum class, so a heavy revolver would be good, these can be down loaded to reasonable "plinking" levels and in the big revolver are a real joy. But it sounds like you need the all american, found in every truck in the nation, shooting range, fun and inexpensive 'Ruger mark semi-auto.
 
Not in MY truck, Dale.  Wink
 
 


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: October/31/2009 at 13:32
...nor mine...  Shocked




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Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: November/01/2009 at 08:44
Ah, this brings up another issue -- personal defense weapons that aren't attached to something in a vehicle- espcially the person they are there to protect. Is your truck gun set for personal protection or a beater thrown in for an occasional shot at a rabbit? Not saying either way is right or wrong, but it should be clear in your head. A truck gun should never be considered a go-to protection gun. exact location and grip position is rarely known, hard stop or accident will relocate the weapon very fast, usually hid somewhere out of close reach or cause an accident trying to get to it, and of course, a you will be telegraphing your weapons condition to a trained agressor.


Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: November/01/2009 at 19:12
I take it that this is not what you all are talking about............
 


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Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: November/01/2009 at 20:53
ed - don't think your going to get that level out fast enough to hit somebody with it.


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: November/01/2009 at 20:57
It's just there to tell when the truck is upsidedown.

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Posted By: SD Dog
Date Posted: November/02/2009 at 13:37
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I take it that this is not what you all are talking about............
 


Gun racks used like this, uncased, are still legal in SD.


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Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: November/02/2009 at 13:54
likewise in ut,wy,mont, and idaho,  in idaho they use them as a decoy, so when the other party has their eyes on the shotgun, the guy goes for his other stash.


Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: November/02/2009 at 13:54
there is always one more person, and at least one more gun than you can see.



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