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Topic: SWFA Super Sniper 10X HD?
Posted By: rommelrommel
Subject: SWFA Super Sniper 10X HD?
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 04:33
Any ETA on this baby yet, or a estimated price?



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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 10:19

Should arrive in the first half of July.  Price will be $799.95



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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 10:38
They going to be the same other than the glass upgrade?

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Posted By: silver
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 11:52
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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 11:59
Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

They going to be the same other than the glass upgrade?
 
They do not share any of the same parts, it is a totally different animal from the ground up.  HD has a dual meaning on this scope (Heavy Duty and High Definition).  These were built to fullfill a special order request.  I added a couple hundred to the order for retail sales.  This scope will compare to scopes priced in the $1,500. range.
 
Unless we get another large special order we may not be making any more of this variation.
 
I'll post more details about the scope including images soon.


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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 13:27
Can I pre-order?

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 18:14
Will this be mil based clicks?

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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 20:50
Yes, it will be .10 milradian windage and elevation.

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/18/2009 at 21:29
Cool  Thunbs Up

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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: June/19/2009 at 08:42
Y'all are killing me.  are you telling me I should have waited to upgrade.  Shocked

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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: June/19/2009 at 15:01
Now that is an interesting scope.

Chris, if there is a wait list for this one, add me to it.

ILya


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Posted By: catt_tracker
Date Posted: June/20/2009 at 18:37
Is there a wait list?


Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: June/20/2009 at 22:45
Also looking to get on the buy list...Thanks  [ASAP]

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/21/2009 at 02:59
Oh my Naughty 
 
I just know I'm going to want one too.  What to put on what can be Shocked


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Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: June/21/2009 at 22:53
Since it is new from the ground up. What will the close focus range be, 10yds like the original 10xSS?


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/21/2009 at 23:24
I dont spend much rilfe time at 10 yds myself what do you shoot at that distance Sparky?

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Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: June/21/2009 at 23:33
While not very helpful while actual bullets are in the air, the 10m parallax adjustment is kinda handy when dry firing in the garage.

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Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: June/22/2009 at 00:18
I really don't do any shooting at 10yds either but just used that distance since that is what the original did. I guess I could have rephrased the question. 


Posted By: MikeMiller
Date Posted: June/22/2009 at 10:00
Wow, cant wiat to see this hit the shelves

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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: June/22/2009 at 14:00
Damit, Chris, I just had to buy a rifle so I could mount the 3-9, now I gotta buy another rifle so I can mount the 10XHD!


I need a new hobby.


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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: June/22/2009 at 15:57
RC, I feel your pain.  These guys are going to get some of us in BIG trouble. How did Tammy spell relief?

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Posted By: MikeMiller
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 10:27
A question for the SWFA guys. How does this scope compare with a MK4 M1 fixed ten power?

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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 10:49
It is optically superior and relatively easy to see the difference when compared side by side viewing resolution charts.  It also out performs it in low light test.  On paper it is equally as durable.  We don't have any real world longevity test on it yet but Michael McDonald will be trying to break one soon on his 8lb unbraked Sako .338 Lapua.  OUCH!


Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 12:59

Hi CF,

Do you have any pictures yet?Can you give us a taste of the dimentions...Thanks


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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 13:58
Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

It is optically superior and relatively easy to see the difference when compared side by side viewing resolution charts.  It also out performs it in low light test.  On paper it is equally as durable.  We don't have any real world longevity test on it yet but Michael McDonald will be trying to break one soon on his 8lb unbraked Sako .338 Lapua.  OUCH!



I think "ouch!" might not be a strong enough word there Chris!!!

Better his shoulder than mine.


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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 18:24
I saw a 338 (without brake) detatch a retina once, not pretty.
 
 
I'm sure it will be quite durable.  I am searching now for a weapong worthy of the scope.
 
Have I mentioned before how much my wife really doiesn't like you guys?  Really!


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Posted By: Mike McDonald
Date Posted: June/24/2009 at 18:42
Miller,
Good to see ya here pal!
 
The HD makes the Mk IV 10x scope look very bad by comparison.  As Chris said, no longevity testing as yet but it's crisp glass with good close and far resolution.
By end of July we should know everything about tracking and durability.


Posted By: MikeMiller
Date Posted: June/25/2009 at 19:19
Mike, if as good as you say, and so far I have not found you to be wrong, I would say they will sell lots of these.
 
Glad to be here by the way.


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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: June/25/2009 at 20:41
   
Just tell the wife that at least this hobby keeps you out of the titty bars. 


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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: June/25/2009 at 21:24
Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

It is optically superior and relatively easy to see the difference when compared side by side viewing resolution charts.  It also out performs it in low light test.  On paper it is equally as durable.  We don't have any real world longevity test on it yet but Michael McDonald will be trying to break one soon on his 8lb unbraked Sako .338 Lapua.  OUCH!


Excellent


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Posted By: catt_tracker
Date Posted: June/30/2009 at 09:17
When are we going to see pictures of this?


Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: June/30/2009 at 17:43
We don't have any production images.  The prototypes are in the field right now.  I can tell you that it looks very similar to the new 3-9.


Posted By: Mike McDonald
Date Posted: June/30/2009 at 20:40
Well, we'll be longevity testing it on my M21 shortly.
Just lost my 3rd MkIV M3 on this rifle, and although Luppy will fix it post haste I'm ready to mount one of these HD's and forget about scope problems.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/01/2009 at 02:33
HHHHHMMMMMMMM... my .50BMG should be in when I get home tomorrow...

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 17:31
I have sure been liking the 1/10 mil clicks on the variable. My son shot both the Variable Super Sniper 3-9x42 FFP  on .308 R5 Mil Spec and my Leupold Mk4 3.5-10x40 FFP on my GAPrecision .300 WM   side by side  at 600 yds and his conclusion was why arent all our scopes 1/10 mil click adjustments it just makes more sense when making adjustments.  Both guns were running 190gr SMK the .308 at 2600 fps and the 300 WM at 2900 fps. 

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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 11:36
Does the R5 like the 190s?

It's back to load development for me, just got an X40 with a 27.25-inch barrel and I gotta figure out what it likes.  Never owned/shot a 27.25 inch OR a left-handed rifle, should be interesting!


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 22:09
 I can tell you RC that my 5r is doing a 5 shot group 3/4" @ 100yds & 1.25"@ 200yds...190grn bthp sierra,39.5 grn Varget,fed brass & fed match primers.My barrel has 140rounds through it [just about broken in] My AOL is 2.925".I'm averaging 2475 fps.I presently have a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10 x 50 witha a German 4a.I do own a 10x SS and am looking forward to buying one of the new ss 10x HD.
  I don't find to much of a difference when throwing 168/175grns through the mil-spec.other than I'm getting about 100"fps using 42.5grn Varget.Accuracy is about the same!


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 22:13
 Sorry I forgot to add I'm 63,wear Bifocals and my shooting ability is only average.Point being a great rifle even for the old & blind vet like me [:}

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/12/2009 at 17:58
Does this scope have a rear or side parallax adjustment?

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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: July/13/2009 at 09:28

It has a rear parallax adjustment.



Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: July/17/2009 at 16:58
To quote Kiickboxer:

"Are we there yet? are we ther yet? are we there yet?"

How is the 10x42 HD coming along?  I already have a rifle set up for it.

Has Mike managed to break one yet?  If it is tough enough to survive 24 hours in his hands, it is plenty tough enough for anything I will do to it.

ILya


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Posted By: mark shean
Date Posted: July/26/2009 at 11:52
I just aquired a 10x42 SS in a package deal with no paperwork on it, is it possable Chris to download or otherwise get the info for the scope by mail? If it is possable by mail , at what address? I looked this scope over with a magnifing glass and could not find any identification markings at all on it, why is that? Thank you in advance for your reply, Mark

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Posted By: gregester
Date Posted: July/26/2009 at 18:37
nice.....

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 02:01
Mark Shean -- several of us have the same scope and find it fairly self expanitory.  It comes in two versions one is side focus that other is rear focus -- turn to focus.  The knobs are 1/4moa click.   For simplicity figure 1MOA = 1 inch at 100 yds or 1MOA + 2 in at 200 yds  or one moa = 3 in at 300 yds, or 1moa =4 in at 400 yds.   The knobs are re - setable to ZERO them by using a hex wrench and pulling straingt up then turning them to ZERO and placing them back down on the scope.    There are some other helpful things here  on mil dots
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Posted By: Steve 0
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 13:51
 This goes out to Chris Farris and the rest of the scope Nazis at SWFA. First you tantalize us with thoughts of the Xotic and have it on the web site for three years saying it will be soon that not one but all can attain one for their shooting pleasure. Now there is no hope, secondondly I feel you have scope whored us with the new S.S. 10X42 HD. Why wasant this glorious news given to the public and why must we beg. Please stop the teasing I think you're customer base cant handle much more before we are forced to raid red oaks texas, and comondier the scopes you have banned us from for to long. P.S. anyone have a Burris signature select 4-16 with the ballistic plex. I have mine on my 22-250 and its a loaf of  mailto:!@#$ - !@#$ I've also laminated it in kings desert camo. and how well does the Leopould  varmint  plex work 


Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 16:13
I know, I know and that is why we kept the SSV 3-9x42 and SSHD 10x42 quiet until they were actually en route.  Previously I had been so excited about all the new stuff that I couldn't keep my mouth shut and it ended up not turning out too good after so many unforeseen set backs kept pushing the dates back.  So now I don't say anything until I know for sure when they will be here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Shhhhhh!  Wait until you hear about what is coming from XOTIC and also another SSV.


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 17:04
So, for sure, when will they be here?

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Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 17:10
They are shipping from Japan via air freight this week, should be here next week and it is up to U.S. Customs in regards to when we will take possession.  They seem to have taken a special interest in our shipments lately.


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: July/27/2009 at 18:46
A-ha! So they are enroute!

I promise to not bug you about these scopes for about a week.  

ILya


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Posted By: utnapishtim
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 06:26
Just picked up a Ruger M77 MkII in .300 SAUM 22" pencil barrel, and boy howdy is she a light-weight.  I haven't shot her, but I'm thinking she's gonna kick like a mule. 

I'm thinking of picking up a SS 10X HD for it.

So, I missed it.  Do we have to pre-order if we want one?

And what happens if my ultr-light 300 eats it up?


Posted By: Chris Farris
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 10:25
You can't pre-order yet.  Your Ultra Light .300 won't bother the HD if a 7 lb. .338 Lapua with no brake didn't. 


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 10:28
The original S10X was 50-cal rated; my guess is the recoil will break you before it breaks the scope.

What do you plan to do with your new Mk77?


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Posted By: utnapishtim
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 17:24
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

The original S10X was 50-cal rated; my guess is the recoil will break you before it breaks the scope.

What do you plan to do with your new Mk77?


I have no idea.  I traded for it, sight unseen, and was lead to believe it was a .300 WSM.  I was considering a B&C stock, bedding the action, trigger job and what not to make 'er into a real shooter.  But since it's a SAUM, and ammo might be a bit pricier and harder to get, long term, I'll probably just leave it bone stock (maybe with a Holland Brake) and keep it for deer, bear, moose, and the like.  I've heard some horror stories about Rugers, and I hope she shoots a consistant 2 MOA or better.  Any wider than that, and I might not fell any confidance with it.

So, short answer . . . hunting rifle.

Alternatively, I've considered trading it, plus a 19.5" AA AWS 6.5 Grendel upper, for an AR10.

Prolly more than you wanted to know . . . Smile



Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 17:33
If it is a hunting gun I wouldn't be getting a fixed 10x scope, that will be to much for short distance shooting.  If you want a fixed go with a 4x or at the very most a 6x.  The Super Sniper variable would be a much better choice.

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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: July/31/2009 at 18:43
Be advised, a brake makes things more complicated - unless you are stone deaf.


That is a bit more powerful than you'll need, and confidence might be harder to come by if you find yourself preparing for a punishing recoil.

And AR10 is a good way to go (Armalite makes AR10s, any other 308-caliber AR is not an AR10, just to clarify.)  AR10 is a good hunting or all-around gun, not a bad choice.


I see LOTS of these guns (300RUM, .338LaPua) for sale, "few rounds", because people want the biggest thing around and figure out it is too uncomfortable to enjoy  shooting.

Don't put $$ into it until you know it does what you need done.  For deer, elk, bear, ext, it is a bit much, I'd say - then again, I have yet to find a North American hunt that requires more than a 300WM(Cape Buffalo in Florida and Grizzly in Canada, notwithstanding.)


Take her to the range and see if you like it.  Don't expect to find ammo on the cheap.


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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: August/01/2009 at 01:28
I for one dont understand the need to push 30 cal bullets faster than a 300 WM or 300 WSM and tend to find 30-06 & .308 about right.  Of course I do have a .375 H&H but now we are talking 300 gr bullet.  Run a bullet too fast and you start burning up barrels.  I'm thinking you might be better off just trading it. God forbid you should want different rings than come with it I just spent about $90 bucks on some Ruger rings in 30mm to mount a 3-9x42 Super Sniper on the boys Ruger stainless 300 Win Mag. With a bedding job it about a 1moa gun but I'm hoping the scope upgrade will help that, if not that is still minute of elk.

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Posted By: ba_50
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 13:22
I can't really agree that a 10X is to much for close shooting. I've been using it on my .22 shooting fox squirrels and don't feel handicapped. For really close shooting say 5-15' I can use my .22 handgun.  I can still get a squirrel's head in the 10X FOV at 10'. Of course it takes practice using high magnification to find the target.


Posted By: utnapishtim
Date Posted: August/02/2009 at 13:52
Originally posted by ba_50 ba_50 wrote:

I can't really agree that a 10X is to much for close shooting. I've been using it on my .22 shooting fox squirrels and don't feel handicapped. For really close shooting say 5-15' I can use my .22 handgun.  I can still get a squirrel's head in the 10X FOV at 10'. Of course it takes practice using high magnification to find the target.


Agreed.  I have a .44 Tracker for anything that jumps out in front of me.  Anything that requires a rifle will also give me a bit more time to find the target.



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