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Rings vs Recoil

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Topic: Rings vs Recoil
Posted By: Shenko
Subject: Rings vs Recoil
Date Posted: February/23/2009 at 16:05

What rings & bases work on rifles with lots of recoil?  Biggest gun I have is an '06, but this subject has come up in conversation.  Basically, I listened to two guys arguing about it.

What works on a big 338 or on a 458 Lott?
 



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Posted By: rifle looney
Date Posted: February/23/2009 at 17:52
I think that's all it is an argument.. I have never seen a problem . There are guys here that shoot large caliber such as the 458 lott wait and see what they say?

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: February/23/2009 at 18:26
My .458 Lott is a Ruger #1 Tropical and I used the Ruger rings supplied with the rifle.  They are very good. 
For other heavy kickers, there are a number of very good bases and rings. Before "biting" further, need some details on the requirements for the weapon.  You can always use the "get the heaviest available" strategy.  You need to know some things about your intended use before making a decision on rings and bases.


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Posted By: Roy Finn
Date Posted: February/23/2009 at 21:40
Talley two piece are about as strong as you can get and some feel that the dual dovetail set-up from Leupold is very solid as well.


Posted By: John Barsness
Date Posted: February/24/2009 at 09:26
What Roy said--plus the Talley Lightweighst are also very strong. Some people don't accept this, because they are aluminum, but they were originally designed by Melvin Forbes for his New Ultra Light Arms rifles, which can generate quite a bit of recoil.
 
The LW's do not use bases. Instead the bottom half of the mount includes the bottom half of the ring, and screws directly onto the action. This bottom half is a solid block of high-grade aluminum, so ain't going anywhere.
 
When my wife got a .270 NULA in 1991, I mounted a 2-7x Bausch & Lomb in the mounts and it never changed point of impact over the next decade, until the scope itself went belly-up. This was on a .270 that weighed 6 pounds with scope. I have also used the NULA/Talley mounts extensively on various magnums from .300 Winchester up (and one of those was a NULA weighing 6-3/4 pounds with scope) and the only problems have been with scopes, not the mounts that held them.
 
Many people who shoot big-bore magnums (mostly for African hunting) like the Talley steel rings, because these come in a detachable model that allows the use of iron sights if desired. It is a probably the most popular detachable mount for the purpose, partly because unlike some other detachable mounts, the Talleys are machined rather than cast.


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 13:29
I have had good luck with the Talley QD's for many years. I have them on several rifles including a .375 H&H.
I do want to try the light weight mounts since so many people here have recommended them.



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 13:48
im fixing to find out how well the leupold standard rings and bases hold up to a .375H&H

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Posted By: John Barsness
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 18:25
That may be interesting. One problem with the standard front-dovetail/rear-windage mounts (originally developed by Redfield and now made by a lot of companies, including Leupold) is that the front dovetail ring takes probably 80% of the recoil. The windage screws on the rear do not have nearly as much resistance.
 
In fact Dave Talley has a .375 that has Redfield rings on the scope. You can see how the rear ring has shifted backward slightly against the windage screws. That was his inspiration for designing and building his own rings.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 21:33
I would have to place the various wide tactical style rings for picatinny rails -- Badger, MK4, TPS, Farrell, Seekins, etc. -- in the most recoil resistant category as well.  Rings with such a wide footprint on the base and bearing surface on the scope tube has to translate into additional strength.  Whether or not they provide any practical strength advantage over Talleys or Dual Dovetail type mounts, I cannot say.
 
If appearance is a consideration, tactical style mounts may not look especially elegant on some rifles. 


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Posted By: rifle looney
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 21:38
Rifledude... speaking of tactical rings if you were on a budget which rings are a good buy?

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 22:27

Burris Xtreme Tactical series are definitely the least expensive that I'm aware of, yet they have the appearance of being as durable as some of the others, albeit not as nicely finished.  Next would probably be TPS, followed by Leupold MK 4, followed by Badger.

 
I'd probably go with TPS if I were buying tactical rings on a tight budget.  They look nicer than the Burris XT's to me. 


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Posted By: rifle looney
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 22:31
OK thanks going to build a new gun and have never gone this route before so all the insite is a big help! I take it they have a web site?

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/25/2009 at 22:38
http://www.tpsproducts.com/ - http://www.tpsproducts.com/

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Posted By: sheephunter
Date Posted: March/14/2009 at 00:23
Tahqua,
I am going to put some quick detach on my new 338. I am looking for some real good ones. I like the talley, leupod, and warne setups. It doesn't seem possible to be able to take the scope on and off and not lose the point of aim. Do they work? There is getting to be a lot of grizzly where I hunt and I bought a browning x bolt 338 I am going to have open sights on and a QD scope so I can take the scope off at night or around camp.
Thanks

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