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Topic: help...
Posted By: rapsy
Subject: help...
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 05:17
I am looking for new scope and surfing in web for days and can not decide, because of wide choice and my lack of expirience.
which of these scopes has better glass (clearer) and low light ability:

Nikon Monarch 3 4-16x42;
Bushnell Legend 3200 5-15x40;
Burris Euro Diamond 2,5-10x44;
Sightron S2 4-16x42;
Vortex Viper 4-12x40;
Leupold VX-II 4,5-14x40;

please help (!!)



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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 07:26
  Since some of the scopes you've asked about are well over $500 I'd also consider these:
             http://www.swfa.com/c-1511-sightron-sii-big-sky-riflescopes.aspx - http://www.swfa.com/c-1511-sightron-sii-big-sky-riflescopes.aspx
         Look at the power range that interests you as there are rebates available.
 
             http://www.swfa.com/pc-13202-185-bushnell-4-16x40-elite-4200-rifle-scope.aspx - http://www.swfa.com/pc-13202-185-bushnell-4-16x40-elite-4200-rifle-scope.aspx
         This one would be hard to beat.


Posted By: trigger29
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 07:49
In that over $500 range I'd look at these too.
 
This would be a good low light scope with great glass
http://www.swfa.com/pc-5762-259-zeiss-3-9x40-conquest-rifle-scope.aspx - http://www.swfa.com/pc-5762-259-zeiss-3-9x40-conquest-rifle-scope.aspx
 
http://www.swfa.com/pc-10620-1511-sightron-3-9x42-sii-big-sky-riflescope.aspx - http://www.swfa.com/pc-10620-1511-sightron-3-9x42-sii-big-sky-riflescope.aspx
 
If low light performance is key, personally I would skip the high magnification and invest in better glass. More magnification doesn't mean better low light performance.


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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 08:39
is there a need for 4x16 scopes? are you hunting in areas that require that much power??

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Posted By: rapsy
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 10:19
"need" - is interesting word. I gues moust of us if there would be "need", could shoot in our hunting areas with no scope at all. I know that in dawn there is definetly "need" for smal magnification, but I feel "need" in dayligt, longranges for magnification over x10. for big game I have elite 4200 2,5-10x50 (.30-06) and Zeiss Victory 3-12x56 (.300 winmag), I need something for my .223 for more fun and varmints, but I need to go in tight budget this time. I just need to know which of those scopes (above) would be with better glass...


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 10:31
sightron sII big sky is pretty nice, as is the vortex viper. the monarch aint no slouch either the bushnell and the leupold arent really in the same category.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 10:41
I just got a Sightron sII Big Sky on loan to play with yesterday.  I compared it a little last night to my Bushnell 4200.  To my eye the Sightron appears to have better glass.  It is definitely clearer to the edges of the glass.  The 4200 gets fuzzy around the edges, but the Sightron looked clear right to the edge to me.
I compared them in low light just as it was getting dark, though the 4200 is a 3-9x40 and the Sightron is a 1.25-5x20.  The sightron seemed just as good when both were at 3x.  Now if it will just hold up to the 45-70 recoil it might be a dandy scope.

They have pop up resettable adjustments as well, which is really nice.  My first impressions of Sightron is good and I would not hesitate to buy one.

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Posted By: rapsy
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 12:47
supertool, thx for answer - that kind of answers I am looking for here...
by the way nice profile picture :)


Posted By: tjtjwdad
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 13:15
I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.  But, you have to take into consideration the application and the power rang at both ends of the scope.
 
Jim


Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: February/18/2009 at 13:17
I think a 4x bottom end is fine.  I have shot deer and elk and varmints as close as 40 to 50 feet with 4x and never had a problem.  Biggest downside to a 16x in my book is it is typically a larger and heavier scope, but to some people that is not an issue.

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Posted By: hunter12345
Date Posted: February/22/2009 at 17:10
The Sightron S2 is the best bang for the buck and is better in low light .The Nikon Monarch is also fine scope.The Bushnell Legend or 3200 are better scopes than the VXII.  



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