VX1 vs Bushnell 3200
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Topic: VX1 vs Bushnell 3200
Posted By: danfoss
Subject: VX1 vs Bushnell 3200
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 16:17
Hi there,
New to forum and had a question. I've purchased a Remington 308 SPS Varmit and need a scope for it. I've basically rounded down my choices to either the Leupold VX1 or the Bushnell 3200 series. Looking at something around 3-9x40.
The purpose of this rifle will probably be 50% range work and 50% shooting feral animals (pigs etc).
Anyone got any advice on these?? I've trolled through a few forums and it looks like it basically comes down to personal choice; and Leupold's eye relief.
I did a search on this site for a discussion on the same thing and didn't find anything so if this has been answered before please direct me to the correct place.
Cheers
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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 16:35
I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck.
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Posted By: martin3175
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 18:07
bugsNbows wrote:
I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck. |
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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 18:26
+2
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Posted By: mercenary1947
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 08:45
Yep ... Danfoss ... I third that recomendation .... it's well worth the few extra dollars even if you have to save a few more weeks .... a 4200 for low money is far beyond any VX1 ...
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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 21:10
even the team primos at $199 at swfa would be a step up from the 3200 and the vx1 both
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Posted By: Big Squeeze
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 21:55
Squeezer says,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no VX1,,,,,,,,,,no 3200,,,,,,,,,,get the 3x9 4200 for $249. Much much better for a few extra bucks!!...........
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Posted By: danfoss
Date Posted: July/23/2008 at 09:01
Thanks for all the input guys, I've looked at some other forums and a lot of people say the Leupolds have a better Eye relief than the Bushnells
Anyone got any comments on this as well?
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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/23/2008 at 09:11
Difference in eye relief between the VXI and Bushnell 4200 is under 1/2 in. I don't think it will be an issue on a .308... it would not for me, but you will have to "check it" for yourself. You need the better optics and function, in my opinion, more than the eye relief. I do not recommend VX I for much of anything.
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Posted By: noluv
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 11:40
bugsNbows wrote:
I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck.
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have to agree fella
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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 13:22
Eye relief on the Bushnell will not be a problem. Have a 3200 on a 338 Savage and have never had an issue.
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Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 15:09
danfoss wrote:
Thanks for all the input guys, I've looked at some other forums and a lot of people say the Leupolds have a better Eye relief than the Bushnells
Anyone got any comments on this as well? |
I haven't yet spent much time with my 4200, but yes, it has less eye relief than my Leupolds and the eye relief is more critical.
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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 06:49
As I said earlier, the eye relief difference on those two scopes is under .5in. It should not make a difference on a .308. The scope I have mounted on my .458 LOTT has 3.4in eye relief and it is just fine. My fight weight is SuperWelterweight (147-154). Depends on the person and how well they "address" the rifle, I guess. I have never been hit in the eye by a scope (a few fists, but never a scope).
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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 08:27
I don't think Four inches of eye relief is necessary until one gets beyond a 300 Winchester Magnum level.....I have had Leupolds before and 4 inches of eye relief only meant that I had to figure out a way to get the scope FAR ENOUGH AWAY from me so that I could look through it. Three and a half inches is fine until you get to the bigger stuff....and I have a long neck and I crawl way up on the stock---because 100% of all rifles in the world are too short for me.....
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Posted By: Gunshow75
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 08:46
I have wide shoulders, which creates the same problem as a long neck. The only thing I would add is that I have found the eye relief to be more critical when shooting up hill at a sharp angle, say more than 30 degrees. I was shooting a 30-06 with a Bushnell 4200 elite, and I got a nasty cut. I now avoid any scope with less than 3.5 inch of eye relief.
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Posted By: sholling
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 09:45
The 3-9x40 Nikon Team Primos has plenty of eye relief.
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Posted By: txgolfer45
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 20:57
The VX1 has been quite dependable on my Remington 700 ADL in .270. Haven't missed a deer or hog yet.
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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:09
Gunshow75 wrote:
I have wide shoulders, which creates the same problem as a long neck. The only thing I would add is that I have found the eye relief to be more critical when shooting up hill at a sharp angle, say more than 30 degrees. I was shooting a 30-06 with a Bushnell 4200 elite, and I got a nasty cut. I now avoid any scope with less than 3.5 inch of eye relief. |
i find that intresting, i had a 300wsm in a browning aboltII composite stock, and with the full house loads i was shooting i got away with a scope with 3-3.8 inches of eye relief and i never got hit
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Posted By: sholling
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:20
pyro6999 wrote:
i find that intresting, i had a 300wsm in a browning aboltII composite stock, and with the full house loads i was shooting i got away with a scope with 3-3.8 inches of eye relief and i never got hit | It's a lesson that I've learned. I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 300WM and I won't mount anything to it with less than 3.5". I got sick and tired of getting smacked. That's why I last mounted a Burris 3-10x40 Signature Select with an honest 3.5-4" of eye relief.
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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:47
even wih scopes with less eye relief ive never been smacked, so call me lucky or whatever but its never happened.
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Posted By: kmwllmsn
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 00:11
I just happen to have today shot a 22-250 with a 3200 3-9x40 firefly and a VXI 3-9x40 on a 7 mag. For optical clarity I would lean towards the VXI. For field of view I think the VXI has it too. VXI also had a better (thinner) reticle. Shooting in the South Texas heat i noticed the heat waves distorting the image more in the 3200 than the VXI. However, that was the first VXI I have used and I cannot stand the sight adjustments because they don't "click." I would lean towards the 3200 for that reason, and the differences in clarity, FOV, and reticle are negligible. Unless your budget won't allow it I would do as already suggested and get something a little better, like the previously mentioned 4200 or maybe a VXII. In the 3200 I would stay away from the firefly reticle, number 1 b/c you probably won't actually use it (I haven't at least) and the crosshairs are just a little too thick.
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Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 12:23
pyro6999 wrote:
even wih scopes with less eye relief ive never been smacked, so call me lucky or whatever but its never happened. |
All who have gotten "scope eye" was able to say the same thing at one time.
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Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 12:28
I'm curious kmwllmsn, why the hangup on "clicks"?
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Posted By: kmwllmsn
Date Posted: August/02/2008 at 22:36
A lot of it is probably just habit, having gotten used to clicks on all of the other scopes I have used. Also, it is just nice to me to feel and hear the click and know the reticle has moved 1/4 inch. I'm sure after using the VXI a while it would be just as easy to adjust using the lines but I was just surprised it didn't click because that's what I'm accustomed to and like.
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