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Topic: VX1 vs Bushnell 3200
Posted By: danfoss
Subject: VX1 vs Bushnell 3200
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 16:17
Hi there,
New to forum and had a question. I've purchased a Remington 308 SPS Varmit and need a scope for it. I've basically rounded down my choices to either the Leupold VX1 or the Bushnell 3200 series. Looking at something around 3-9x40.
 
The purpose of this rifle will probably be 50% range work and 50% shooting feral animals (pigs etc).
 
Anyone got any advice on these?? I've trolled through a few forums and it looks like it basically comes down to personal choice; and Leupold's eye relief.
 
I did a search on this site for a discussion on the same thing and didn't find anything so if this has been answered before please direct me to the correct place.
 
Cheers
 



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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 16:35
I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck. 

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Posted By: martin3175
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 18:07
Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck. 
 
Excellent
 


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/21/2008 at 18:26
+2

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Posted By: mercenary1947
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 08:45
 Yep ...  Danfoss ... I third that recomendation .... it's well worth the few extra dollars even if you have to save a few more weeks .... a 4200 for low money is far beyond any VX1 ...  

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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 21:10
even the team primos at $199 at swfa would be a step up from the 3200 and the vx1 both

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Posted By: Big Squeeze
Date Posted: July/22/2008 at 21:55
Squeezer says,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no VX1,,,,,,,,,,no 3200,,,,,,,,,,get the 3x9 4200 for $249. Much much better for a few extra bucks!!...........

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Posted By: danfoss
Date Posted: July/23/2008 at 09:01
Thanks for all the input guys, I've looked at some other forums and a lot of people say the Leupolds have a better Eye relief than the Bushnells
 
Anyone got any comments on this as well?


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/23/2008 at 09:11
Difference in eye relief between the VXI and Bushnell 4200 is under 1/2 in.  I don't think it will be an issue on a .308... it would not for me, but you will have to "check it" for yourself.  You need the better optics and function, in my opinion, more than the eye relief.  I do not recommend VX I for much of anything. 

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Posted By: noluv
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 11:40
Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

I'll bet some of our resident experts will chime in on this one. IMO though, VX 1's aren't that great. For about $250, I'd pick up an Elite 4200 in 3-9 X 40 and not look back. Good luck. 


have to agree fellaExcellentBig%20Smile


Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 13:22
Eye relief on the Bushnell will not be a problem. Have a 3200 on a 338 Savage and have never had an issue.

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Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: July/24/2008 at 15:09
Originally posted by danfoss danfoss wrote:

Thanks for all the input guys, I've looked at some other forums and a lot of people say the Leupolds have a better Eye relief than the Bushnells
 
Anyone got any comments on this as well?
 
I haven't yet spent much time with my 4200, but yes, it has less eye relief than my Leupolds and the eye relief is more critical.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 06:49
As I said earlier, the eye relief difference on those two scopes is under .5in.  It should not make a difference on a .308.  The scope I have mounted on my .458 LOTT has 3.4in eye relief and it is just fine.  My fight weight is SuperWelterweight (147-154).  Depends on the person and how well they "address" the rifle, I guess.  I have never been hit in the eye by a scope (a few fists, but never a scope). 

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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 08:27
I don't think Four inches of eye relief is necessary until one gets beyond a 300 Winchester Magnum level.....I have had Leupolds before and 4 inches of eye relief only meant that I had to figure out a way to get the scope FAR ENOUGH AWAY from me so that I could look through it.   Three and a half inches is fine until you get to the bigger stuff....and I have a long neck and I crawl way up on the stock---because 100% of all rifles in the world are too short for me.....


Posted By: Gunshow75
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 08:46
I have wide shoulders, which creates the same problem as a long neck. The only thing I would add is that I have found the eye relief to be more critical when shooting up hill at a sharp angle, say more than 30 degrees. I was shooting a 30-06 with a Bushnell 4200 elite, and I got a nasty cut. I now avoid any scope with less than 3.5 inch of eye relief.

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Posted By: sholling
Date Posted: July/25/2008 at 09:45
The 3-9x40 Nikon Team Primos has plenty of eye relief.

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Posted By: txgolfer45
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 20:57
The VX1 has been quite dependable on my Remington 700 ADL in .270.  Haven't missed a deer or hog yet.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:09
Originally posted by Gunshow75 Gunshow75 wrote:

I have wide shoulders, which creates the same problem as a long neck. The only thing I would add is that I have found the eye relief to be more critical when shooting up hill at a sharp angle, say more than 30 degrees. I was shooting a 30-06 with a Bushnell 4200 elite, and I got a nasty cut. I now avoid any scope with less than 3.5 inch of eye relief.
i find that intresting, i had a 300wsm in a browning aboltII composite stock, and with the full house loads i was shooting i got away with a scope with 3-3.8 inches of eye relief and i never got hit


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Posted By: sholling
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:20
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i find that intresting, i had a 300wsm in a browning aboltII composite stock, and with the full house loads i was shooting i got away with a scope with 3-3.8 inches of eye relief and i never got hit
It's a lesson that I've learned. I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 300WM and I won't mount anything to it with less than 3.5". I got sick and tired of getting smacked. That's why I last mounted a Burris 3-10x40 Signature Select with an honest 3.5-4" of eye relief.


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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: July/26/2008 at 21:47
even wih scopes with less eye relief ive never been smacked, so call me lucky or whatever but its never happened.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: kmwllmsn
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 00:11
I just happen to have today shot a 22-250 with a 3200 3-9x40 firefly and a VXI 3-9x40 on a 7 mag. For optical clarity I would lean towards the VXI. For field of view I think the VXI has it too. VXI also had a better (thinner) reticle. Shooting in the South Texas heat i noticed the heat waves distorting the image more in the 3200 than the VXI. However, that was the first VXI I have used and I cannot stand the sight adjustments because they don't "click." I would lean towards the 3200 for that reason, and the differences in clarity, FOV, and reticle are negligible. Unless your budget won't allow it I would do as already suggested and get something a little better, like the previously mentioned 4200 or maybe a VXII. In the 3200 I would stay away from the firefly reticle, number 1 b/c you probably won't actually use it (I haven't at least) and the crosshairs are just a little too thick.


Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 12:23
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

even wih scopes with less eye relief ive never been smacked, so call me lucky or whatever but its never happened.
 
 
All who have gotten "scope eye" was able to say the same thing at one time.Wink


Posted By: crispycritter
Date Posted: August/01/2008 at 12:28
I'm curious kmwllmsn, why the hangup on "clicks"?


Posted By: kmwllmsn
Date Posted: August/02/2008 at 22:36
A lot of it is probably just habit, having gotten used to clicks on all of the other scopes I have used. Also, it is just nice to me to feel and hear the click and know the reticle has moved 1/4 inch. I'm sure after using the VXI a while it would be just as easy to adjust using the lines but I was just surprised it didn't click because that's what I'm accustomed to and like.



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