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I tried to do a search and came up with nothing, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with  Pride Fowler Industries (PFI) RR-900-4?  They are claiming Army snipers & SDM's are using their scopes.  I am interested in potentially buying one when I have the funds.  I would like to mount this scope on my LMT MWS .308 with a 20" inch chrome line barrel.  I never had the chance to go to Sniper School, my orders changed when I was in, but I do love long range shooting.  From what the video, they are taking most of the calculations out of the equation in doing the math.  I would like to know what people here think of this scope if anyone out there has any previous experience.  I do not know what the standard issue is for Army SDM's currently, so perhaps someone knows that info as well.  I am guessing it depends on the unit and their S.O.P.  I just like to some feedback before I put down $1800 for this scope.  Thanks in advance.

http://www.rapidreticle.com/Main/ScopeItem.aspx?ID=17&grpID=2#

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Pride Fowler 2.5-10x40 Rapid Reticle 900 30mm Rifle Scope
Pride Fowler 2.5-10x40 Rapid Reticle 900 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - RR9004
  • Matte
  • Illuminated Ballistic Reticle
  • 30mm
  • Ballistic Elevation Turret Calibrated 100 to 900 meters
  • First Focal Plane Reticle
  • Meters Version
$1,799.95
There are a lot of mostly Leupold Mk4 scopes in use currently numerous models there are aslo several other brands but I have not seen any pride fowlers in service.
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I'd look at these real hard in selecting.
SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm RiflescopeSWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Illuminated Mil Quad SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQI
  • Patented First Focal Plane Illuminated Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,499.95   
 
SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQ
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,299.95 
If you want the best scope that would be the Zeiss Heinsoldt Tactical and my second choice would be U. S. Optics with the EREK knob, Nightforce scopes are also well liked. 
US Optics 3.2-17x44 SN-3 30mm Riflescope
US Optics 3.2-17x44 SN-3 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - USOSN3E
  • Matte Black Type III hard Anodizing
  • Illuminated Mil-Scale GAP Reticle
  • 30mm
  • Low Profile - Rapid Focus Eyepiece
  • 11 Pos Rheostat (Red) Illumination
  • EREK 1/10 MIL Elevation Knob
  • US#3 1/10 MIL Windage Knob
  • T-Pal Left Side Parallax/Focus
$2,659.95
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PFI scopes are in service.  They won several small contracts for different scope models they make and they are in use.

I reviewed a couple of PFI scopes, though not the RR900 and liked them.

ILya
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The military uses an amazing array of different optics and weapon systems and they probably do have some I just have not seen them on our base ranges but that doesnt mean they are not in the system. What I see most often here are leupolds but I know we did recieve a Premier scope in a few months back because the guy it was going to was out to lunch so I had to sign for it.
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The Good news is the reticles are first focal plane, the bad news is they are ballistic... Meaning they are tied to one round at one velocity, at one altitude and barometric pressure. Can they work, sure. But I prefer a mil-based reticle, and one not as busy as that one. The rapid ranging feature is pretty sweet. And for a D.M. type weapon, I can see where this scope would have success, because of most of the time a hit in combat is a hit...  I too would recommend the SS 5-20. It is by far the best value on the market! 
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If Mickey Fowler  and John Pride say they have government contracts or sales, you can take that to the bank.   I cant imagine either of those guys putting their name and reputation on a product that wasnt top flight.  I havent looked through any of their scopes, and I dont know anyone that has one, so I cannot comment on their scope quality of fitness.  They do look interesting though.  
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If I was stepping into the $2k range and wanted a variable that was 10x on the top end ... USO SN3 1.8-10 would be my choice ... one of my favorites ...
 
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Thanks for all the input.  I will keep in mind all your suggestions.  It is going to be a while till I get a scope, but I do want high end, well as much as I can afford of a nice scope.  Thanks again.
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I heard threw the grape vine,US Optics is comming out with a 1-10 for under $2K in the summer.I can't tell you how I know other wise I'd have to kill ya Wink
Again you can't go wrong with the SS 5-20x50.
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I ended up finally buying the RR900-1 (the yards version), for a ;lot less than the advertised price, and mounted it using Basset's low Picatinny mount, and PFI's own rings, on my 'ol trust M1A. For the record I don't work for PFI or advertise for them.
For those of you not familiar with Pride Fowler's RR900, it has a ranging reticle using shoulders or head to determine target ranges out to 900 yds/meters, and has the correct hold over lines out to 900 yds/meters when using a .30 cal 168/175SMK @ 2600 fps. (or the equalivent). 
The glass is wonderfully clear, the numbers and the reticle are super sharp. The windage and elevation knobs are very stiff, but have softly audibleclicks. The illumination knob for the reticle (on the tip of the parallex knob) turns easier than the parallex knob, allowing brightness to be set or turned on/off without holding the lower part of the knob. A spare battery is stowed in a special compartment in the windage cap. The power ring turns smoothly but it's tight. The "fast-focus" eyepiece is very nice. A simple push or pull of the eyepiece will bring the reticle into focus, but is a little different than most. The eyepiece turns as you pull/push, due to a course thread that it rides on, preventing an accidental bump in the field throwing out of adjustment.
I zeroed the scope using only the 100yd range for now. Zeroing was fast, easy, and uneventful. The scope has 1/2MOA adjustments, and are very repeatable. I found this out by over correcting as I walked the shots into the bull, a couple times! Lol... It has BDC knobs, marked out to 900yds, and a zero-stop ring on the elevation turret, but I won't be using these. The reticle's design of ranging/BDC is the main selling point! Most people who want this scope don't want to mess with the knobs!! I was hoping my rifle liked the 175SMK loads that I loaded, but after firing off the bech, it was immediately apparent that my 1:12 SAK barrel likes my 168SMK loads MUCH better. (1" three shot groups vs. 2" groups!)
All in all I am very pleased with this scope so far. It seems to be very well made, solid, and very clear. The Basset mount held like a champ also. After firing 65 rounds I checked to see if the bolt was still @ 20 inch lbs, and it was. With the right load this rifle was shooting as well as my Rem 5R/ NF combo! I can't wait to stretch its legs at the 600 yd. range!
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