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So if a guy was wanting to put together a precision/800-1000yd rifle on a 700 aciton in .308 where would you start. I been looking at the SPS varmint and the 5R. I do like the idea of a 24" bull barrel.
Would a guy have to restock the SPS? Cost? Beddiing? Expertise necessary?
Would you leave the 5R alone except for cosmetics, maybe cerakote the barrel the action?
What are the advantages of an oversized bolt handle?
Timney triggers?
 
I would like to stay under $1000 on the rifle. I would need to purchase a bipod, possibly a cheek pad as well. This would mainly be a target rifle, but I might carry it on a deer hunt.
 
I thought about topping it off with a SWFA 3-15, but not sure yet on that one. This build would take awhile before I could get it all done.
 
Feel free to post pics of you rigs as an end result.
 
I'm sure there will be more questions, but thanks for the help.
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Having owned a few 5Rs, there is not better deal (on a Remington) out there.  If you want a Remington that shoots - and have limited funds - that is the best option.

My experiences with Remington triggers has not been great, especially the x-mark trigger.  I haven't bought a 700 in awhile so not sure what is in them now, someone will chime in on that.  I will say that the Timney triggers have a tendency to rub on the sides, so I have gone to rifle basix, just as clean a break, just as good a trigger, no rubbing or stock contact.
 
The stocks are serviceable, not my favorite, but MUCH better than those crap, plastic stocks Remington now loves to add to their rifles - like putting budget tires on a sports car!  A cheek piece is an easy mod, look at the Karsten cheek piece, it is kydex and easy to install.
 
For a target setup, the 5R is a nice start.
 
The oversize bolt handle makes working the bolt a little easier - or that is the thought.  I have run many bolts and see no advantage for an oversize bolt handle on a range gun.  It might look more cool than the stock bolt handle, but that's it.  Truth be told, there are now so many modified bolt handles, the stock handles are coming back into style.
 
On a scope, the SS3-15 is a great start, plenty of mag for what you want to do, great glass for the money.  I would recommend decent mount and rings (no stamped aluminum rings), lots of good options if you want suggestions.
 
Lastly, master your marksmanship skills before proceeding to 1,000 yards, else you'll be frustrated in no time.  A 100 yard shot is a good measure of the gun, and a 1,000 yard shot is a good measure of the shooter.
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+1 on all the advice above. The 5R is one way to get all of what you want without going too much over your target budget. Having owned several Remingtons and good ones I have to say that I'm liking my Tikka T-3 Lite more than any of them. In the end, it cost me as much as a 5R because I replaced the stock and the bolt shroud. But it has a smooter action and a really nice stock trigger. I might well have considered the its cousin the Sako A7.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=395019443
 
The first link is for a stock 5r, is $1200 a good price for that? The second link is for a "x-werks" coated 5r with a 20" threaded barrel for $1300. I know nothing about x-werks, can someone help me out there? Are either one of them priced right? I haven't checked around too much yet. I would prefer to buy a good used one somewhere if I could. Any thoughts on where I could find one? Is there an advantage to the 24" vs 20" barrel length?
 
I'm not completely stuck on the 700 yet, but it would take some persuading to move me off of it.
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I'm not familiar with xworks.  If you plan to suppress the rifle, it might not be a bad deal - all depends on the quality of work done.


I too am a huge fan of Tikka T3 Lite (or Varmint) and was going to recommend you consider that - but stuck with Remington (why I explicitly stated above "on a Remington".) Tikka is very accurate, very well made, but is long action and has plastic bottom metal and magazine - and the stock is "OK" at best.  Remington is much more mainstream and many more universally available parts.


Whomever you buy from, make sure they are reputable.  I've bought a few from AbleAmmo and have had good luck, I don't know the other sellers you list.

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You must also have a look at the Savage LR. It shoots very well out the box.
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8... did you get rid of your Rem?
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

You must also have a look at the Savage LR. It shoots very well out the box.
 
Can you post a link to the rifle you are talking about?
 
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I think I've seen those Savages at Dick's Sporting Goods.
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I am very happy with my Rem 5R. All I did was switch the trigger to a rifle basix. And my mine came with a H S precision stock. As of now I see no need to change anything else on it. The SS 3-15 would be a good choice with the SS 5-20 even better if you can swing it. And do not skimp on the rings and base.
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Originally posted by mil169 mil169 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

You must also have a look at the Savage LR. It shoots very well out the box.
 
Can you post a link to the rifle you are talking about?
 
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Look at the Long Range Precision model.
 
The guys in South Africa are getting excellent results in our field target competitions.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

8... did you get rid of your Rem?
 
No, still using the stock and action as factory supplied.
 
I have fitted a Timney trigger a long time ago.
 
I have also about 2 years ago did a caliber change from 308Win to 6mmAI. The barrel, a local custom hand cut and lapped barrel is the best magic I have ever seen/had done. My shooting has improved in leaps and bounds on long range. 100 and 200yds shooting is really just not a challenge with this rig.
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I have a stock Savage LR in 300WM.  New it was under $800 and shot about 5/8" out of the box.
 
That gun came stock with Alum bedded poly Accu-stock, accu-trigger and Muzzle break you can turn off with quarter turn...
 
Well worth thet money!!!!!
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Does anyone have any experience with the Savage 10 FCP McMillan. Looks like it goes for about $1175. I can buy the 5r for about $1200 locally.
 
I having trouble finding the Savage LR models that are being suggested. Can someone give me a link?
 
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If you know what u want then Gunbroker is the way to go....
 
My NIB Savage LR Hunter in 300WM retailed much higher than I paid...
 
 
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New guns are continuely being listed there....
 
 
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here is what your looking for for under $1K shipped
 
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Thanks guys, that's awesome. I am definitely starting to tilt toward a savage. By the time I buy a 5r, cerakote it, and buy a trigger I will easily have $5-600 more into it. For less than a grand the Savage seems to be the way to go.
 
Any more thoughts on the gun itself. What about a base and rings? I'll assume a 20moa is in order here, badger ordinace stuff maybe?
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

8... did you get rid of your Rem?
 
No, still using the stock and action as factory supplied.
 
I have fitted a Timney trigger a long time ago.
 
I have also about 2 years ago did a caliber change from 308Win to 6mmAI. The barrel, a local custom hand cut and lapped barrel is the best magic I have ever seen/had done. My shooting has improved in leaps and bounds on long range. 100 and 200yds shooting is really just not a challenge with this rig.
 
good to hear!  might have to go down this road too if I can't get my arms around reloading.
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From what I remember seeing your LR shooting was none too shabby to begin with!!!!
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

here is what your looking for for under $1K shipped
 
 
This isn't the same stock as Savage shows on the website. Maybe an older model? i prefer the looks of the stock on website, an A5 I believe.
 
What about this one:
 


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I think it will come down between a Savage Model 10 FCPK (part #18608) or a Remington 700P. Is the consensus that the Savage will likely shoot better than the Remington out of the box?
 
I guess I'll throw one more into the mix. The Savage Model 10 FP-SR (part #19127). Any thoughts on these particular rifles.
 
Thanks for the help


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I have to admit that my very limited budget pretty much forced me down the Savage road...
 
Having said that.... I have 3 Savages all bolts.  223, 270 and 300WM.  All of them stock and all shoot 3/4 MOA or less out of the box... I've come to love the Accu-trigger!  It seems I've heard of more troubles for remy 700s the last 3-5 years.  Remy still has a total lock on available accessories and upgrades while Savage after market suff is much harder to come by...
 
I can't get pass the bang for your buck without necessary upgrades driving the price sky high...
They are a great starting point anyway you look at it...
 
The Tikka T3 has a stellar reputation for a smooth action and tight bolt and being good shooters.
I have been playing with the idea that my first custom build might be on a T3 action...  T3 are a long action only.  I would be building a 6 to 7mm gun so it wouldn't matter rto me...
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For Remington Triggers,if you can find the 40-X models laying around they're a pretty good deal and work very well.  The older models are out there as well.  The Mark-X-Pro's can be adjusted after you get all the "lawyer-grease" out but to me they aren't as good as the older versions.
 
As far as smoothness, my stainless steel 204's (THLVSS models made in 2008) are very smooth in comparison to the SPS Varmint model I converted last year. 
 
The barrels; most of mine have been pretty good but with any mass-produced item, some can get through the QA process.
 
Don't know about other manufacturers but one of my biggest gripes with Remington is their refusal to sell some of their parts, especially to the end user.  Some can go through gunsmiths but others such as bolts; the company just flat out refuses to sell.
 
 
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

 
The Tikka T3 has a stellar reputation for a smooth action and tight bolt and being good shooters.



Tikka makes a tactical in 308 that is very nice and they are definitely shooters.
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