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After hours of research from various websites I will be getting my Heritage as soon as he ships it out to me from his shop.
 
I'm still not sure if I want to get the 3-12x or 5-25x yet. A common sense purchase would be the 3-15x but I plan on mounting this to a .300 win mag later down the road. I was strongly considering the mil/mil w/ dbl turn...
 
Opinion's wanted and appreciated.
 
Gen 2 mildot reticle 27 mil double turn MTC
Gen 2 XR reticle 27 mil double turn MTC
Gen 2 mildot reticle 15 mil single turn MTC
Gen 2 XR reticle 15 mil single turn MTC
 
Many thanks,
RiP
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The first one is what I have in the 3-15X and is what I'd recommend. With the DT turret it's easier to feel and hear the MTC effect. One turn on a .308 will generally get you out to 1000 on a 100 yard/meter zero and it's still fast. Specifying CCW will match the way most scopes' turrets elevate. (For reference: the 3-15X model with these specs is the PRH-9002)

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I have the 3-15X on a 300WM, works great for me.
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What's the intended use?  The 3-15 is the all around safe choice and has worked well for me from whitetails in the woods to 1500 yd gong shots.  However, since I no longer use it for whitetails in the woods I wish it was a 5-25.  Since size and weight doesn't seem to be a concern, ask yourself what you plan to do that would require 3X or 4X?  If nothing, go for the 5-25.  If you're not really sure, the 3-15 is the safe choice.

Reticle selection will depend on which you choose as well.  If you really are going to need 3X and 4X, the standard Gen II will be the better reticle for whatever you're doing at that power.  If you get the 5-25 and most of what you're doing is plinking at stationary targets at the range and won't use anything below 10X much at all, then the Gen II XR might be nice if you want to aim at tiny targets at long range sometime.

For turrets, I like the double turn MTC.
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Here's a couple of things that might help put some sidebars on the magnification range:

1) What is the distance where your typical round goes trans-sonic? (At that point, it's potentially no longer stable and near the end of accurate flight).

2) What magnification makes you comfortable at a given range? e.g. 2X @ 100 yards

3) What size targets do you typically shoot?

Take 1, 2, and 3 together to help define your high end.

For example, I shoot a .308 that goes trans-sonic @ 1100 yards. I prefer magnification of 1.5-2X @ 100 yards (but will shoot iron sights for food). Target size varies from a kill zone of  6" (antelope) to 12" (elk). Since I feel comfortable aiming at a 6" target @ 100 yards even without magnification, I won't even include the third factor. If I multipy my max range times my preferred magnification ratio I get 1650. Divide that by 10 and my preferred high end is around 16.5X.

For the low end I would ask:

1) Do you shoot at moving targets

2) Do you need a wide field of view?


Taking the above example, I've jumped elk at distances inside 50 yards many times. As large as they are, an elk bugging out through timber is hard to draw a bead on even at 2.5X. At 50 yards, a lot of 3X scopes have a FOV of 5-6 yards, while a 5X scope might be 3-3.5 yards. An elk broadside (if you're that lucky) is 2 yards, so we're talking on 3X enough FOV to see the elk and a length on either side. With a 5X low end, there'd be a 1/4-1/3 length on either side.
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I completely understand where you all are omming from. So is 15x sufficient for 1500 yds? I have never shot at distances that far but several times at 1000-1100 yds with 10x and 12x and hitting the target was never a problem.

Thanks a lot gents it's nice to have some experienced opinion in here.
I really appreciate it much!
Respectfully,
RiP
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