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I am looking for a powder that will give good accuracy for a 308, and be a good plinking round powder for my AR. Bullet for the 308 is going to be 178gr amax, for the 223 undecided but cheap! Does IMR 4064 fit?
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Varget. I use both powders for .223 and .308 and it's great for both. 

Now...if you can find it now days.  
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Varget. I use both powders for .223 and .308 and it's great for both. 
 
YUP, my got to powder for A lot of rifles.
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Ya, no! Varget is vapor ware here.
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Try R15, if you can't find it, try Benchmark.
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Benchmark is accessible, but no rl15. Does this beat IMR4064?
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Xbr seems to do good in both from initial testing I've done. But I was using light 308 bullets
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I haven't seen xbr. Another choice is H4095
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IMR4064 should be fine to use for both. IF the rifle likes them.

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I use IMR 4895 in both .308 and .223 with decent results. 168gr. MK's shoot quite good and 69gr. MK's in the .223. 
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Originally posted by tejas tejas wrote:

Try R15, if you can't find it, try Benchmark.

Good call on RL 15.  
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All powders mentioned work great for the purpose. H4895 works well in both flavors, but is harder to find than Benchmark. Any of the Western Powders imports between X-Terminator and 2520 speed range work well in both calibers as do Norma N-201 and N-202. Any Vihtavuori in comparable speed range is good stuff.
I think that one reason that we're still seeing powder shortages is that Wal- Mart has re- entered the reloading game in a lot of markets and has sucked up a lot of production, as they can put pressure on wholesalers and the powder companies to get what they want. A buddy just got off the phone from a Wal- Mart telling me the wonderland of powder they had on their shelf @ $24/lb where it's $27 at the cheapest other places around.
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cfe223??
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

cfe223??
Yeah- forgot about that, it'll be fine in both.  Also H335.  Alliant AR comp would also work well in both calibers.

If by plinking w/.223 you mean economical, you couldn't go wrong with IMR 4198, but it's a little fast  for .308, as would be H322 unless you shoot light stuff, like 125 Sierras.

Did anyone mention BL-C(2)
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The one powder that's been easy to find locally is RE17. Supposedly, it works great in 308, I haven't tried it though.

http://www.6mmbr.com/reloder17.html

You can google 223 and RE17, apparently, it works fine with heavy bullets. I personally would've thought the burn speed was too slow.

BLC-2 isn't hard to find either, it works ok in both, but not great in either, at least for me. It also seems to burn real dirty. Meters really well though.
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In these times of shortage, the trick is to learn the burn rate chart and learn what speed range of powders meets your needs.

Anything from IMR 4198 through H380 and 4007SSC will meet your needs, although powders near the center of that speed range, like TAC or one of the 4895s would be more versatile. If you know your speed range, you can usually find something to buy that will work. I'd have probably never tried Benchmark if it hadn't been the only powder available at one time. I really like it. It flows well through a measure and is economical and just works well. Of course, now it's non-existent, but last shopping trip found Re15 and H4895. See how it goes? It's all good.

There's nothing wrong with having so much to choose from (if only more were available.)

Ps I've let a lot of powder sit on the shelf because I'll not pay a gouger's price. It'd be hard to  convince me that there's not a lot of "marketing" strategy being applied by St. Marks and ATK and Hodgdon and...




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