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I'm going insane just trying to figure out what I want,  maybe someone can steer me in the right direction Smile
 
 
I'd like to mount a Posp scope on my cz 858,  i've narrowed my choices to either 6x42 or 3x9x42.  The 6x "allows for focus adjustment in the range of ± 3 diopter" , while the 3x9 has the advantage of variable magnification but it does cost $100 more.  Both of them have built in range finders but i'm wondering,  will the rangefinder work on the 3x9 scope?
 
 
If you had an ak47 or similar rifle that needed to be scoped,  which one would you choose? 


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I have been decidedly dissappointed with the POSP scopes I have tried up to date (about a dozen or so over the last few years).

If you rifle supports it, I would lean toward a modern scope.  Fixed power POSP scopes are based on the original 50s design.  They were pretty good then, but not good enough for today.

As for which magnification fits 7.62x39 cartridge, I would be leaning toward 4x.

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Uh oh... hmmm,  i've read nothing but good reviews up until now.  What was the main problem with the dozen scope you've tried?  I'd like to know what to look out for incase I do choose this brand.
 
I've read that these scopes are suposedly rock solid, very clear and can be compared to modern scopes costing 4x more... 
 
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given the caliber , I'd go with a 1x4 or 2x7 at the outside. Pick up a Vortex 2x7
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I would probably be more inclined to add the Midwest Industries Quad Rail front hand guard and run a scout scope.
Leupold 2.5x28 FX-II Scout Scope Duplex Leupold 2.5x28 FX-II Scout Scope
Stock # - LEU58810
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Scoping an AK is probably not high on my list unless I put an Aimpoint or EOTech on it they are up close and personal guns not sniper quality long range guns. You might be better advised to buy a Tikka or a Savage in whatever caliber and scope it for your longer  range work.  Here is my favorite 6X

SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope
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Thats a good suggestion but I actually sold my only tikka this morning, to fund this project Big Grin

 
I do have a red dot mounted on the front rail of my 858 but i'd like to have the ability to quickly mount a side railed scope over the dust cover,  for those 200 yard pop can shots.  The POSP seems to be the easiest and cheapest solution so far but I might skip the whole idea if you guys dont approve of the russian scope.
 
 
Here is what I sold,
 
 
So that I can work on this ,
 
 
Downgrading from german glass to russian Loco 


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Originally posted by lexmark lexmark wrote:

Uh oh... hmmm,  i've read nothing but good reviews up until now.  What was the main problem with the dozen scope you've tried?  I'd like to know what to look out for incase I do choose this brand.
 
I've read that these scopes are suposedly rock solid, very clear and can be compared to modern scopes costing 4x more... 
 

The main problem is that this is a very old design.  Glass was very good in the 50s when they came up with it, but it only got better coatings since then.  

Keep in mind, that I am only familar with the fixed power scopes and the 2.5-5x24.  I have not played with the 3-9x40.

The reticle is not centered, so you might end up with it somewhere at the edge of the field of view depending on how the mount lines up.

Knobs were not very repeatable.  Magnification ring was super loose.  If you breathed on it, it turned and on a few specimens it wobbled.

On three or four of the scopes I looked at, the reticle was visibly canted.

Additionally (and this is a personal preference), the scope ends up being quite substantially offset to the left of the receiver.  In order to have consistent head position, I had to use a pad ont he buttstock.

On the plus side, I like the Dragunov-style reticle with the choke rangefinder.  Also, the whole thing has a cool Eastern block look to it that matches the rifle.

ILya

P.S.  On top of all that, having grown up in Russia, I am deeply suspicious about any precision product made there.
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Ok thanks for the detailed responce,  i've been doing a bit of reading and this is honestly the first really negative review I came across,  maybe you just handled a bad batch...  who knows. 
 
 
I'll take the risk and pick up the 6x,  avoid the adjustable 3x9 so less can go wrong,   i'll post up some pics and maybe a review when everything is all set and done.
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Ilya, you have this one on your Saiga 7.62 x 39 don't you?  "memory fails me at times"

http://swfa.com/Hawke-125-4x24-Eclipse-30mm-Riflescope-P41111.aspx


I'm looking at adding those to my Saigas.  "7.62 x 39  and .223"


Seems like a very good practical design.

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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

Ilya, you have this one on your Saiga 7.62 x 39 don't you?  "memory fails me at times"

http://swfa.com/Hawke-125-4x24-Eclipse-30mm-Riflescope-P41111.aspx


I'm looking at adding those to my Saigas.  "7.62 x 39  and .223"


Seems like a very good practical design.


I had it on my Saiga or some time and it worked very well.


Ultimately, I decided to put an UltiMAK rail on it with a red dot, which probably a better fit for this rifle.

ILya
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Originally posted by lexmark lexmark wrote:

Ok thanks for the detailed responce,  i've been doing a bit of reading and this is honestly the first really negative review I came across,  maybe you just handled a bad batch...  who knows. 
 
 
I'll take the risk and pick up the 6x,  avoid the adjustable 3x9 so less can go wrong,   i'll post up some pics and maybe a review when everything is all set and done.

Good luck.

Post your impressions once you get it all set up.

ILya
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