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    Posted: January/07/2007 at 13:57
Here are my current 8x binoculars

the two that I use now most side by side

Nikon porros and Eagle Opt. 8x32. The Nikons are listed with some 420ft fov and the EO at 395, but I could not tell a difference. Nikons are better with regular glasses, I see a full view. With the EO I see 80-90% of the view.

The pockets are 8x25 Minoltas, no longer sold.

I am not that excited about porros, but if someone makes a good compact porro, will check them out. Waiting to see Leupold 8x30, but the EO are probably more rugged, though the body has no metal.

Not interested in Monarch 8x36 at this time.

Just posting what I have. I have no money to buy a fancier model this year. And I guess some 10x model would be next in line, I am pretty happy with these 3. The 8x32 did well compared to my 9x25 reverse porro. I use the 9x25 when I bring no other ones, like canoeing, but will try the 8x32 as well next time.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FrankD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/09/2007 at 12:40
Nice pics Tero. I had a feeling you were going to like that EO PRC. Did you post your experiences with it from the weekend and I missed it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/09/2007 at 18:14
Yes, I posted it under Others in my old OK you 8x guys, I give up thread.

It may be that the 8x32 Platinums were better, but the SRTs are nothing to be ashamed of. They are roughly the Monarch quality of glass.
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Thanks for the update Tero. I will go check it out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote anweis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/10/2007 at 10:04
I wonder what good binocular you could have bought had you not spent $ on several mediocre ones. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FrankD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/10/2007 at 11:50

Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:

I wonder what good binocular you could have bought had you not spent $ on several mediocre ones. 

 

Now there is a scary thought considering how many bins Tero has owned over the years.

 

However, for some folks it is about finding the best performance within a specific price range. I think everyone tries to get the best optical performance for the most attractive price. Tero was going through some fairly inexpensive bins in the hope of finding one that tended to go against the grain.

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Both the Action and the new EO serve a purpose. I have not been as comfortable with glasses with any other pair than the Action EX porros.

If I put all my optics money in pot, I would get just one pair, I want 8x 9x and 10x. Maybe 7x some day.
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You should have someone build you a prototype 7-10x zoom.
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It would still be a bit narrow. I guess a combination of 8x32 and good 10x32 would do the job, but now I am stuck with the 10x42 for the 10x. Which is OK for the view, I think 42mm is needed in mid price to get brightness.
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I can understand that. With 10x I would have a really hard time getting accustomed to a 32 or 25 mm. Even a 42 mm looks a little dim in comparison to an 8x42 or 7x42. A 10x50's brightness level is excellent but comes at the price of portability.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bird Watcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/11/2007 at 15:22
Tero,

Here's a quote from the Minox brochure, when I read it I thought of you:"As inventor behind the legendary spy camera the brand MINOX is synonymous with miniaturization. Over the years our engineers have perfected the ability to reduce high performance optics to a reasonable compact size without compromising quality."

Keep them in mind as you continue your quest for the perfect compact binocular.

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That does seem to fit Tero to a "T" though doesn't it?

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If I see two or three binoculars, I am attracted to the middle size one. I already know way too much about compacts. I have studied all thes specs and looked at 10.
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Quote If I see two or three binoculars, I am attracted to the middle size one.

 

So is that EO PRC going to satisfy the mid-size urge for awhile or are you still going after a 10x32?

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Oh, this will be plenty, until my next birthday or Christmas. Though I have gotten rid of some poor ones, so I have less comparisons to make now.

If I am happy with the EO, the brightness in comparison with the porros is still not decided in my mind (see below), I may have a grand plan to bird with the EO 8x32s and with Nikon high end 10x25s for support. My support now is the 9x25 reverse porro after I rejected the 10x25 reverse porro as too dim. My favorite 10x is still 10x42.


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Leupold and Celestron have, coming out, 8x32 roof  and 8x30 porro models. The Celestron looks good, but I will have to see it. If I can get away from  the bulky 8x40 porro completely, I will be happy. Today the 8x40 was best.

If I am not happy with any of these, will finally get some 8x42 roofs. No rush, I have all kinds of toys.
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