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The Donald has his panties in a wad again. He thinks Fox News (and Bill O'Reilly in particular), haven't treated him fairly or nicely. Good grief, grow a set Donald. You think Putin is gonna play nice? We don't need another whiner in chief. Hope that bag of nothing just goes away.
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Donald is just setting the stage for the next mud slinger.....  He's figured out the best way to deal with the double speaking politicians is to come straight at them and then hold his ground!!!
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It's a shame Ben Carson is drawing all the media fire right now for having the balls to say what should have been the national battle cry.... No muslims in Office period BECAUSE we ARE a Christian based Nation and the muslim faith demands annihilation not tolerance of all other religions!!!
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I don't think Donald is going to go away.  He and Ben Carson are the only two people out there who are not intimidated by the Media.  Ted Cruz is not making much headway.  You can't play the Media's game....unless you want to have Bob Dole on another ticket.   
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I have to agree!  Ted has been lackluster too long and I think He's missed his window of opportunity.
It would take something stellar from him to catapult him into the running at this point.
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Carson is drawing all the media fire right now cause he said the obvious about muslim's in office.  ballzy but probably political suicide...
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I don't trust Trump.
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Me neither. Cool
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Blackberry Smoke has a song I would dedicated to the Donald, "Let me help you find the door!"
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Since it's politics, it's a question of who you distrust the least...

Ain't no more Jimmy Stewart!!!!
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Trump is trashing every Republican running, Once he destroys all of them and 2 weeks before the election he could back out and tell everyone to vote for Hillary. What a strategic move for the Democrats. This would likely be cheaper than paying to smooth over all her blunders.
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He is Hillary lite to me, I trust him as far as I can throw this building!
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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

I don't think Donald is going to go away.  He and Ben Carson are the only two people out there who are not intimidated by the Media.  Ted Cruz is not making much headway.  You can't play the Media's game....unless you want to have Bob Dole on another ticket.   


Cruz has proven he isn't intimidated by anyone, and he was proving that way before either Trump or Carson came on the scene. He's also no Bob Dole. We've probably never had a more conservative GOP candidate before. Don't write him off. The reasons he hasn't made much headway yet has a lot to do with the fact we've had 157 GOP candidates, and so far, it's been "The Donald Trump Show." The Cult of Personality has overshadowed issues of substance.

Look at the "debates" so far. Most of the moderator questions have focused on Trump's comments about women, Rosie ODonnell, Fiorina ("Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?"), Carson ("he was... perhaps an o.k. doctor..."), and "low energy" Jeb. Then, we had the obligatory "what did you think of Trump's comments?" questions directed at those same candidates. Since Carson and Carly responded back with good sound bites, their poll numbers have climbed as a result. The moderators have been so focused on loaded questions to try to play "gotcha" with Trump that there hasn't been much substance. Everyone else has hardly been able to get in a word edge-wise. When we have so many candidates in the debates, there isn't much time for anyone not named Trump to speak.

I like Trump's stated "send 'em home, build a wall, penalize Mexico" policy on illegal immigration. I can get on board with that. I like the fact he's anti-PC and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about what he says. I like the fact he doesn't back down from media pressure. That's refreshing. But, Cruz is exactly the same in that regard, except he articulates concepts with more class and intelligence. He just doesn't enjoy the celebrity status Trump does, and he doesn't play the sophomoric tabloid game Trump does. Other than his illegal immigration stance, Trump has provided very little specifics on other important issues. He's only given platitudes about "winning" and making stuff "great again." Cool.

I would certainly vote for Trump without hesitation over ANY Democrat. That being said, Trump's demonstrated history shows he IS essentially a Democrat. He's always been cozy with the Clintons. He's been a supporter of single payer healthcare. He's always supported tax increases on the middle class and wealthy. He has repeatedly used his leverage ($)with government's powers of imminent domain to steal people's property to build his businesses. His companies have filed bankruptcy multiple times, legally robbing his investors. He has always donated WAY more money to Democrats than Republicans. I get that people's views can evolve over time. I get that Ronald Reagan changed his views and became more conservative over time. But damn, if Trump is a conservative, he must have become one about 3 months ago, as his RECENT history says otherwise. Actions speak louder than words. I don't trust him because his words don't match his actions. His focus on sophomoric comments about people's looks and his need to "get even" with anyone who criticizes something about him, coupled with his turbocharged narcissism reflects a petty, childish person who lacks judgment...to me.

Right now, the polls don't mean much, because there's still 6 months to go until the GOP field is narrowed down, and a lot can happen between now and then. At this time in 2011, Rick Perry was leading the polls. How did that work out for him? I'll be very surprised if Trump is still leading the polls in January. I could be wrong, but I think his ego will be his Achilles heel, and he'll finally say something stupid enough that his supporters will bail on him.

From where I sit, Cruz is the only one of the candidates that has always been consistently conservative on every issue and has never wavered. I don't understand why so many "conservatives" won't get behind him. He has been doing exactly what we all say we want a candidate to do -- fight the RINO cowards, and be unapologetically conservative.

I think Cruz's problems are threefold. First, he's so universally hated by not only the libs, but also his own party AND the media, so everything he says and does is taken out of context by the media. When it comes to politics, I judge a candidates' value based largely on who hates him/her. In this case, the fact that both the libs AND the RINOs hate him tells me he's doing something right. He doesn't have the tabloid Cult of Personality that Trump does. He hasn't been attacked by Trump like Fiorina and Carson have, so he hasn't been in the spotlight recently. Unfortunately, it seems politics comes down to catchy sound bites and snappy put-downs and very little actual substance. Second, his delivery sounds too "politician-like" because he's a polished debater, and his speaking style includes many of the characteristics like calculated "pauses for effect" we've come to expect from politicians, which sounds fake. Third, too many uninformed people point to his birth in Canada as making him ineligible to run for president and have no understanding of the legal meaning of "natural born citizen." Legally, a person is considered a "natural born citizen" of the United States if he/she is a US citizen at birth without having to go through the legal naturalization process. One is a natural born US citizen if born to parents that are legal US citizens, regardless of where in the world their birth takes place. If your parents are legal US citizens and your mother happens to give birth to you while on vacation in Italy, you're still a legal US citizen at birth, with no other legal requirements for citizenship required.

Trump is popular with a lot of people. His problem is he's also very unpopular with a lot of people. There's little middle ground with Trump. He's almost nobody's second choice. If you're few people's second choice, you have problems with electability unless you have a significant % of "all or nothing" devotees. Despite his poll numbers, I think too many think he's a horse's azz and a buffoon. Count me among them.

Obama is a petulant narcissist who abuses executive power because he believes in the superiority of his ideas, damn the Constitution. I don't wish to trade one tyrant for another who operates the exact same way.

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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Since it's politics, it's a question of who you distrust the least...

Ain't no more Jimmy Stewart!!!!

And Trump has already said he knows how things works, and has all but admitted to contributing to or bribing politicians to get what he wants. There was some flap in the last debate where Trump lied about trying to get a casino in Florida. Bugs may know more about it, but he has been caught in lies and flip flops, so yeah, he's loaded with trust; sorta like the Clintons.
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I'm with Ted on Trump. While Cruz isn't my candidate, he could be, but I would have to hold my nose to vote for Trump over any of the Democrats.
I think the media knows this, and they have been doing everything they can to keep Trump in the lead to try and keep the real conservative Republican candidates from rising to the top and stunt their platform before it can be heard. As Ted pointed out, just listen to the questions the media is asking the Republican candidates. They have little to do with issues without laying some kind of gotcha trap. The media has an agenda, and in the end they intend to have a Democrat in the White house, whether it's Clinton, Biden, or Trump they don't care.
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The Donald is now cryin' about Rich Lowery saying (on FNC) that Fiorina cut off his balls at the debate. He's demanding an apology. Poor baby. Lovin' this three ring circus.
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Ted Cruz is The Man We Need.  But he's got to get into The Race.

Trump is showing The Politicians HOW IT'S DONE.  You have to Fight the Establishment, and the MEDIA, and then beat the Democrats. If they don't start 'Doing The TRUMP'.....Then Trump will be the Nominee because America is FED UP.  


Ben Carson is doing it. 

I'm not worried about Trump's Conservative Credentials.....Whose got them?  CRUZ!!?   umm....Jeff Sessions.....Charlton Heston.....


Trump's views are close enough.  A lot of companies that Trump was involved with, that filed bankruptcy, were not necessarily companies that he had a controlling interest in.  


If you guys are so critical of Trump, I would hate to see what you think about the rest of the field.  

If Trump wants to close the borders, protect your gun rights, stop spending, get rid of ObamaCare, build up the military, fix up our foreign policy.....I think that's pretty good!  I'll freaking take that with a guy who is running away with the population!!

  


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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

If Trump wants to... protect your gun rights, stop spending, get rid of ObamaCare...







The problem is, until VERY recently... like only a few months ago, he had the exact 180-deg opposite stances on those 3 issues. He has been so completely in the tank for Democrats and Democrat issues for so long that I don't believe him when he says he wants to do those things. Where has he ever demonstrated any conservative tendencies at any time of his life prior to running for president?

Remember, Obama said he fully supported the 2nd Amendment when he was campaigning for president. He also said he didn't have the legal authority to unilaterally suspend the immigration laws or pass O-Care, yet he did both.
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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

Whose got them?  CRUZ!!?   


YES!
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 Mr.Trump is not a dummy and to allow Fox News to snipe and nibble at him (out of context, partial and misquotes) would be of no advantage. Would a future exchange with Fox News be a negotiation having some benefit or just another snarky negative attack? I hope Mr. Trump has some influence with Fox News advertisers and can effect some pay back.

Of all the candidates Mr. Trump and Senator Cruz are the only ones that even approach specific remedies that I can understand - the Isis situation, illegal immigration (cost of the wall vs. trade $ loss), affordable care act (Obama care), national debt, loss of jobs, and military build up. I can remember when the Mediterranean sea was sort of like an American lake. Negotiations are more successful when approached having more strength than the opposition and Russian President Putin would be nicer and appear to actually like Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump did state that nobody likes President Obama.

Schmooshing with your compatriots and opposition and displaying your truly beautiful lady does not equate with concession; successful  future negotiations are usually aided by the appearance of civility and appreciation of status and title. I was trained to be polite and respectful.

Be nice, but all of us can understand the application and meaning of the word, "stupid" as applied to our current situation which is becoming an irreversible disaster. Are the current multitudes of executive orders dictatorial and stupid? Is Mr. Trump going to derive his authority through support of the people or from coercion of his party and executive orders? I think Mr. Trump's high poll standing indicates his power will come from the electorate. 




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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

Whose got them?  CRUZ!!?   


YES!

Of course, he does.  I would like nothing better than Cruz to be picking the next four Supreme Court Justices. But if he finishes with a 2% in the Primaries, what good is it going to do? 

I don't think Cruz is for slamming the door on Immigration....but, otherwise he's James Madison.  

Fiorina is a Bush Republican.  Bush is .....a Bush!!  ( Common Core, Amnesty, ObamaCare, Mitch McConnell...)

If Cruz can't rocket out of the cellar, we'll have to go with Trump!   

Ben Carson is cool.  But I can't see him winning. It's like he's chatting to us with a cup of tea in his lap.  

 
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Donald Trump is a businessman.  He has already said that he donated money to Democrats and to Republicans over the years who could help him build an empire.  

But now he wants to fix America up like we do, and he's on our side.  

He's not very Polite!!!   Shocked

( Like the Democrats!! )    
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Cruz is going down the tubes... I've contributed to him, just got a letter yesterday begging for money before he has to get out of the race.  I like him, but I'm not sending him any more money.

Trump has "faults"... show me one presidential candidate who does not... which one of his detractors does not, which one of his defenders does not??? 

Trump has "resources" none of the other candidates currently have... access to personnel at all levels that he is not obligated to but can draw from immediately upon being elected.  He also has a vision that I very strongly support.  If I were part of his campaign staff, I would have advised him much differently in a number of areas.  He IS wising up to the political aspects of running for president. 

The repubicans are trying to have it several ways... back when Clinton was in office, I remember a number of current Trump detractors saying how it was impossible not to like Clinton, even with all his faults, and people were WISE to maintain a good relationship with him (having nothing to do with the trail of bodies of Clinton opposers).  Trump maintained relationships with people in order to conduct business and grow his companies... who, who is successful, does NOT?  (I notice that Rudy Giuliani is in one of those pictures with Trump and Clinton).  I blame repubicans who cozied up to the Clintons and allowed much of what is now occurring much more than I blame a Donald Trump.  Trump is the ONLY one out there making the claim that they will "create jobs" who can actually do it.  Sorry, but Carly Fiorina's history speaks for itself... she talks a good game and I think her heart is probably in the right place, but I don't think she is a "game changer".  She is using "political expediency" right now, which is OK, if you can back it up... just get a bad vibe about her real ability to make the grade.  Ben Carson... what Trump should have said is "great doctor... but I think he would only be a good president".  Dr Carson, if he were VP, would be a fantastic president after one or two terms... he needs to learn some things that I just don't think he knows coming from the medical profession at his elite level. 

If "we" (people who truly love America) want to gain back "America", we need to do the research (not from MSM) and make decisions based upon what people running for office have actually DONE, what they have accomplished... not what they claim.  Sure, we have to take "vision" into account, but one must be able to produce the end result of that vision... not just repeatedly say "I didn't have enough members of the House, I didn't have enough members of the Senate...".   Action walks and excuses talk...

Sometimes, people make money off of others' misfortunes... it's the way "big business" operates.   Those bankruptcies that are thrown around with Trump involvement... some WERE just a means to make money... yep, sometimes at others' expense... the way of the world, folks... it's a cold, cruel, hard world out there.  Some were failing businesses that Trump sought to save... he has a dang good track record there.  If you talk about changing positions on things... Ted Cruz is the only one out there that I know of who has been consistent, at least since he came up on my radar (I've not looked at his far past, only since about 2011 or 2012... can't really recall when I became aware of him).  His political bona fides are excellent, but I just don't think he can deliver what Donald Trump can. 

There is no perfect candidate for president... Jesus is in His Heaven.  Until He returns, we are stuck with the frailties and follies of "humankind".  If I get an opportunity to vote for Trump, I will.  If I can assist him "getting there", I will.  Right now, he is our best hope for radical change to put this nation back on track.  He can step in and make an immediate, positive change.  I would love to see the Cabinet Trump chooses, his ambassadors, his advisors.  Sea-change in direction almost overnight.  And, by the way, his (Trump's) interpretation of the Constitution is right on.  Read it, read the original documents that went into the development of the Constitution and its Amendments.  The talking heads AND the Supreme Court are wrong... they've been wrong before.

That's what I want... you are STILL free to disagree.  Without radical change, that ability is in dire danger. 


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