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Anybody see a problem(s) here???

 

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Is that Magazine in back-words???
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Must have been trained by:

 

 

 

 

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Originally posted by David David wrote:

Is that Magazine in back-words???

 

I don't know.

I don't think the mag well will accept a magazine backwards.....Then again, I never thought to try.

Looks wrong, don't it?

 

Man....What a wicked "chicken wing" she's got going on too......  

 

 

 

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She has one extremely long trigger finger.
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I thought you ment the lack of cover.  The Chicken wing is ok, because when she uses a shotgun it will provide her with more recoil control.  I can not see clearly, but is there a magazine attached on some sort of carrier?  The magazine in question seems to be above the standard mag well.  Is the long finger a peice of bass that has been ejected?

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Chicken winging is considered a bad practice in most LE/Military circles these days.

I know the first AR class I attended, the instructor got on me for it.

I didn't really think it was a problem when I posted it, just  bad weapons handling skills.

 

The magazine AND the lack of cover and concealment stuck out to me.

 

I tried, and I cannot get a magazine to go in the way the photo shows.

I thought maybe she Rambo'd 2 of them together with tape, but I don't see any sign of tape anywhere.

I think she crammed the magazine in back wards and upside down.....somehow.

That looks like a standard 30 rounder, but it looks really long, like it's not up inside the mag well.

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That magzine looks backwards to me.  I was trying to find tape, or some after market magazine attachment which maybe the primary magazine is in the gun and the outside one is providing an illusion but I can't see any sort of device, thus causing me to believe the magzine is in backwards.  If so, all the more reason to have cover prior to engaging someone.

 

 

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Looks like a photoshop job to me.

You'd really have to spring a lower or compress a magazine to get it to fit in that manner.

But then I've seen cops do so really peculiar things...................................................... ......

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Originally posted by Mike McDonald Mike McDonald wrote:

Looks like a photoshop job to me.

You'd really have to spring a lower or compress a magazine to get it to fit in that manner.

But then I've seen cops do so really peculiar things...................................................... ......

 

Agreed, on all counts...

 

I can't get a empty mag to go into my AR backwards, let alone a loaded 30 rounder.

The weight of a loaded 30 rounder alone would drop out it out if it just got stuck in there backwards, I would think.

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While most cops I've run into have been pretty competent and professional peple.  Some of our Los Angeles finest have made me wonder if the acceptance standards have been lowered a wee bit too much.  Then there is he whole physical conditioning thing.  Am I the only one who thinks that a police officer should be able to walk up two flights of stairs without a need to call the ambulance?

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 I have to agree that there has been some problems with "lowering" of standards in law enforcement both physically as well as in general background issues. 

 

As for two flighs of stairs, I can do that I'll run if I know there are donuts on top LOL

 

In all seriousness the physical side of it has become a problem, many departments are offering access to off sight gyms or in house. The problem I see is after working a 16 hour shift hitting the treadmill is not on the top of the list.   

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Oh, yes, you are a police officer here in mighty California, Acenturian, right?

I see a bunch of cops here who are in worse shape than I am, and that's pretty sad, since I would not go up two flights of stairs even for donut.

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Yes, a cop in the Peoples Republic of California...that is until I can talk the wife into going to free America.

 

Won't even go up two flights of stairs of a donut? Even for a jelly one?

 

Actually, what I have found and maybe its just a sign that I am getting old. However, we keep finding young people who are unable or unwilling to make decisions.  That is kind of a big part of police work.  It just seems that many of todays youth are so sheltered growing up that when they go out to the Big People world they are unable to make decisions under pressure, I doubt this is just a law enforcement problem since I have friends working in other professions that have said the same thing.  Sad

 

 

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I suppose a lot depends on what age you consider to people to be "young people", but all in all you are right.

As for donuts, I am just not into donuts a whole lot.  Now if there is a nice medium rare rack of lamb up there, I'll beat you up the stairs every time even if there is a whole donut shop waiting for you.

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"Young People" Im talking around 18-24. I'm using that as a cut off because I also teach and it seems like the students I had just a few short years ago are doing well in their studies and jobs. Not all I am sure as every generation has its problem children. It just seems that many of these kids have been very sheltered raised by Dr. Spock generation of parents(or even second generation thereof)  who tend to let the computer game be the fill baby sitter, never heard the word "No" and at worse still have mommy and daddy to come take care of stuff that they as young adults need to take care of. 

 

How about we walk slowly up the flight of stairs split the rack of lamb wash it down with a good Pinot and have do-nuts for desert LOL

 

 

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I've been to a few weapons courses and have encountered a LOT of different folks from various backgrounds and professions. LE included.

 

French Special Ops guys, Marine Force Recon, Rangers, Army Spec Ops, SWAT, etc.

The Marines are always the most squared away individuals of any group I trained with, BTW.

 

The LE guys usually fall into one of two categories.

Very good....to very "ineffective". No real in between, it seems.

 

I went to Bill Rogers Shooting School a few years ago and got to train with some real high speed guys. 

The guy that received the coveted "Bill Rogers" pin (highest score) was a beat cop. 

His partner, I believe failed to qual.

No big sin there because Rogers Range is a humiliating, humbling, gut wrenching experience.

But, it does reveal a lot about the shooter. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally posted by Acenturian Acenturian wrote:

"Young People" Im talking around 18-24. I'm using that as a cut off because I also teach and it seems like the students I had just a few short years ago are doing well in their studies and jobs. Not all I am sure as every generation has its problem children. It just seems that many of these kids have been very sheltered raised by Dr. Spock generation of parents(or even second generation thereof)  who tend to let the computer game be the fill baby sitter, never heard the word "No" and at worse still have mommy and daddy to come take care of stuff that they as young adults need to take care of. 

 

How about we walk slowly up the flight of stairs split the rack of lamb wash it down with a good Pinot and have do-nuts for desert LOL

 

 



Sounds reasonable. Except for the rack of lamb part, I am not a particularly neighborly person and I am not sharing my rack of lamb with anyone. 

That's what happened to the last guy who tried to pull that trick:   

However, if you ever make it over to LA, I'll treat you to one, just let me know if you are in town.

ILya
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